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Speed running? *yawn*

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Hendrix137 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Nah, it's just knowing how to move so you don't get killed, even if you're in close proximity to the enemy. I mean sure, you might use an ops pack or two, but that's not going to save you if you don't know what you're doing.

I've only ever used thermal clip packs on a target once because there were only two of us left standing. Maybe not a bad idea though if you get 'em to spare.

I'm not a great speed runner, so not saying I'm particularly skilled myself, but I think I've done enough of it to understand what it takes to get fast times. And you can't get sub 8 unless you really, really know what you're doing. I mean based on what Cricketer said you could probably count the total number of sub 8 speed runs ever on one hand, but there's people coming in here saying sub 8 takes no skill...yeah, okay.

I've been a part of plenty rocket runs where the objectives were good and the spawns weren't even splitting too bad, but very few only one of them even went sub 9.


I remember that yesterday we got an Escort through the basement of Glacier (where all the enemies spawn). We tried to go through the enemies without using missiles, and Ops Packs was pretty much the only way to do it. Remember, you don't only get full health/shields, but also one second of invulnerability. Still, in the end I think only one or two of us actually made it through. :lol:

If you get Targets and don't use missiles, Thermal Clip Packs is the way to go. Instant reload + 100% stackable additive weapon damage bonus shreds bosses like butter. Sometimes I use two Thermal Clip Packs in a row so I can shoot my Javelin three times in a row, second shot with 100% damage bonus and third shot with 200%.


I'm used to forcing the spawns upstairs on objectives, there not really a lot to work with in the basement. I bet I coulda made it through lol, I'm pretty slippery as it so happens :D

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painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3

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Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3


:mellow:

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caineghis I know u feel this

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Disciple888 wrote...

caineghis I know u feel this


feel what?

You do know it's a waste of time challenging me right? Well cuz I'm a noob

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caineghis2500 wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

caineghis I know u feel this


feel what?

You do know it's a waste of time challenging me right? Well cuz I'm a noob


yea I know you're not even in spec x u noobson

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Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3


it can never be, we are just like TOO PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER feel me. I heard you were letting mad chicks into spec x btw, but you will nevef be able to let mad chicks into your heart. There will always be a painforest shaped hole don't lie

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VaultingFrog wrote...

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Speedrunning takes 0 skill, everything that involves rockets doesn't take skill.


But... but... the Rocket Man... burning his fuse up there all alone.... he has skill doesnt he?

Also I abhore speedrunning. Its only true purpose is to horde credits and I see no point in that either. My stuff will unlock in time, no need to rush through things. If I did that then what would be the point in playing?


No need to rush things? The BW MP team has moved on, what do you thnk is next?

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Disciple888 wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

caineghis I know u feel this


feel what?

You do know it's a waste of time challenging me right? Well cuz I'm a noob


yea I know you're not even in spec x u noobson


Yes I'm indeed a noob.

It's seems you are not the only one challenging me for points. Why I'm I being targeted antways?

Modifié par caineghis2500, 04 avril 2013 - 02:30 .


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DaTenshl wrote...

Solo ---- Skill

Duo ---- Skilll

Trio ---- semi skill and coordination

Full team ---- only coordination



well said


Truly now? Well, that makes me an absolute scrub.

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BlastoTheEnkindled wrote...

I remember I watched one of those "record breaking video"...and all I saw was a rocket spawn nuking festival, when one of those speedrunners faced the enemies without a rocket in his hands he died like 2 times in 10 seconds...an amusing level of skill...

It takes skill to develop the spawn controlling technique, but the rest is just cobra spamming festival and luck.


Yeah, I watched one of those videos as well. Dude missed like 5 shots in a row once. What a ****ing noob - I don't miss or die ever, especially not when 2 platinum phantoms on host spawn in front of me while I'm using a sniper rifle.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 04 avril 2013 - 02:33 .


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Speedrunning glacier in 12 minutes is the equivalent of your kroguard geth solo.

Recently I did a speedrun with a high profile bsner and a couple friends of his. A couple of them are mentioned multiple times in the greatest player thread and the result was slower than our no rocket runs.

Even spectre x guys have had trouble when things became any more complicated than just stand here while I rocket. As soon as moving and coordination were involved the run went to hell.

Bad speedruns don't take a lot of skill. Doing it right is a different story.

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Geek Fest wrote...

Speedrunning glacier in 12 minutes is the equivalent of your kroguard geth solo.

Recently I did a speedrun with a high profile bsner and a couple friends of his. A couple of them are mentioned multiple times in the greatest player thread and the result was slower than our no rocket runs.

Even spectre x guys have had trouble when things became any more complicated than just stand here while I rocket. As soon as moving and coordination were involved the run went to hell.

Bad speedruns don't take a lot of skill. Doing it right is a different story.


When are we gonna play together bro??:crying:

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Any scrub can nuke a spawn. I heard this straight from betcher. It only requires good teamwork. Something that people who hate speed runs all seem to lack.

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Even spectre x guys have had trouble when things became any more complicated than just stand here while I rocket. As soon as moving and coordination were involved the run went to hell.
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Sounds like a lot of people are underestimating the importance of coordination and the skill that comes along with it.

I've had real messy games with otherwise good players and the messiness is largely attributed to lack of coordination, I think. Maybe we place too much emphasis on being some bad-@ss lone wolf.

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painforest_ wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3


it can never be, we are just like TOO PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER feel me. I heard you were letting mad chicks into spec x btw, but you will nevef be able to let mad chicks into your heart. There will always be a painforest shaped hole don't lie


They let you post again?

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it's ok sweetie sue just duo plat with your battle sister kwijibfgcarggle and make giant e-****** threads mocking nerds on the Internet that's how pro MLG elite tryhard spec x celebs do it

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

DaTenshl wrote...

Solo ---- Skill

Duo ---- Skilll

Trio ---- semi skill and coordination

Full team ---- only coordination



well said


Truly now? Well, that makes me an absolute scrub.



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painforest_ wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3


it can never be, we are just like TOO PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER feel me. I heard you were letting mad chicks into spec x btw, but you will nevef be able to let mad chicks into your heart. There will always be a painforest shaped hole don't lie


ahaha how do you know all the right words to say you're right I don't know how I will ever fill this gaping hole in my cyber heart maybe one day

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Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

painforest_ wrote...

can I come? I know we broke up, disicprles but I sometimes still....wonder about what could have been....and sometimes when I get jade, I think of u


oh pain you were the nancy spungen to my sid vicious.  in another life u would totally be my e-girl <3


it can never be, we are just like TOO PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER feel me. I heard you were letting mad chicks into spec x btw, but you will nevef be able to let mad chicks into your heart. There will always be a painforest shaped hole don't lie


ahaha how do you know all the right words to say you're right I don't know how I will ever fill this gaping hole in my cyber heart maybe one day


On topic please:mellow:

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Disciple888 wrote...

it's ok sweetie sue just duo plat with your battle sister kwijibfgcarggle and make giant e-****** threads mocking nerds on the Internet that's how pro MLG elite tryhard spec x celebs do it

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

DaTenshl wrote...

Solo ---- Skill

Duo ---- Skilll

Trio ---- semi skill and coordination

Full team ---- only coordination



well said


Truly now? Well, that makes me an absolute scrub.



hahahahaha ouch :pinched:

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Notorious P I G wrote...

Any scrub can nuke a spawn. I heard this straight from betcher. It only requires good teamwork. Something that people who hate speed runs all seem to lack.


Ask him how that wall feels on London? It was nuked by him at least three or four times on our epic Geth London speedrun.

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I really want to see one person take 3 bronze/silver players into Glacier and do a speed run and finish in less than 14 minutes (a very generous time), if "any scrub can speed run."

Yes, it does take a level of skill and knowledge to be efficient. Do you need to be elite, no.

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Disciple888 wrote...

it's ok sweetie sue just duo plat with your battle sister kwijibfgcarggle and make giant e-****** threads mocking nerds on the Internet that's how pro MLG elite tryhard spec x celebs do it


That being the case, I have plenty of examples around this board were I to go down this route.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

it's ok sweetie sue just duo plat with your battle sister kwijibfgcarggle and make giant e-****** threads mocking nerds on the Internet that's how pro MLG elite tryhard spec x celebs do it


That being the case, I have plenty of examples around this board were I to go down this route.


see u fit right in :). We'll finish that survivalist challenge as soon as I'm done dueling banjos with Cain