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#176
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Kalas Magnus wrote...

No

Buncha scrubs with armored compartments


And more banners.:D


The name change did not fool me.:devil:

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trolololol

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A guy??:sick::sick::sick::sick:[/quote]
Dude you got a lot of gerls thinking I am too. :D:D:D:D:D:D COMMIT SEPPUKU NAO!
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#178
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looks like all the right people caught my bait lol

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Quit trolling your own thread invadercain2550

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Notorious P I G wrote...

Quit trolling your own thread invadercain2550



lol:lol:

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caineghis2500 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

Speedrunning glacier in 12 minutes is the equivalent of your kroguard geth solo.

Recently I did a speedrun with a high profile bsner and a couple friends of his. A couple of them are mentioned multiple times in the greatest player thread and the result was slower than our no rocket runs.

Even spectre x guys have had trouble when things became any more complicated than just stand here while I rocket. As soon as moving and coordination were involved the run went to hell.

Bad speedruns don't take a lot of skill. Doing it right is a different story.


When are we gonna play together bro??:crying:


I thought you quit playing. Send me an invite sometime. Excellent troll thread btw.

#182
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Geek Fest wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

Speedrunning glacier in 12 minutes is the equivalent of your kroguard geth solo.

Recently I did a speedrun with a high profile bsner and a couple friends of his. A couple of them are mentioned multiple times in the greatest player thread and the result was slower than our no rocket runs.

Even spectre x guys have had trouble when things became any more complicated than just stand here while I rocket. As soon as moving and coordination were involved the run went to hell.

Bad speedruns don't take a lot of skill. Doing it right is a different story.


When are we gonna play together bro??:crying:


I thought you quit playing. Send me an invite sometime. Excellent troll thread btw.


I quit spectre x but not playing the game...

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Hendrix137 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Let's say you're playing wave 6 objective on platinum, and you get an escort. As luck would have it, the drone path takes you straight through a double spawn. That's right, all eight enemies in one spot, drone wants to go straight through the middle.

Can you get the drone through without missiling? Because I
can. Any good speed runner should know how. Not only that, but I can do
it with a Drell. I'm not even particularly good at rocket runs.


Ops Pack spam.

lightswitch wrote...

Or here's another example. Wave 10, still plat, targets. Can you do it without missiles and not wasting any time killing any other enemies? Can you do it fast? Because any speed runner who takes clear times seriously has learned how.


Thermal Clip Packs spam.

Amirite? 


This is so meta :wizard:

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Bechter wrote...

Kalas Magnus wrote...

No

Buncha scrubs with armored compartments


And more banners.:D


The name change did not fool me.:devil:

dont remind me. ;_;
dang. And I thought I was clever.

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Neither Speed running or soloing takes skill...but when combined into a solo speed run then you become a man amongst boys

Shout out to Heroic Mass ;)

Modifié par BOSSTER23, 04 avril 2013 - 03:36 .


#186
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Bask in my thread you spawn nuking scrubs :devil:

Modifié par caineghis2500, 04 avril 2013 - 03:36 .


#187
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Disciple888 wrote...

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Disciple888 wrote...

it's ok sweetie sue just duo plat with your battle sister kwijibfgcarggle and make giant e-****** threads mocking nerds on the Internet that's how pro MLG elite tryhard spec x celebs do it


That being the case, I have plenty of examples around this board were I to go down this route.


see u fit right in :). We'll finish that survivalist challenge as soon as I'm done dueling banjos with Cain




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caineghis2500 wrote...

Bask in my thread you spawn nuking scrubs :devil:


Can't imagine it will be too long before someone here on bsn creates a pardoy thread "Does soloing take any skill?". It is just kiting enemies around the map afterall.

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yes, you must know which direction to face so that the enemy only spawns in one place. You must also know how to press up to use a rocket. very difficult for some.

its cool in theory because you can go on platinum and not waste any level 4 consumables :)

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Speed running is a meta-game. Its not about "skill at playing", speed running is a puzzle about lowering time. Speed running is about taking every bit of in-depth game knowledge, and exploiting it to go as fast as possible.

Some tactics used to speed run take a lot of skill, some take careful timing, some take knowledge, and some are extremely easy. But its all subservient to decreasing time.

Check out http://speeddemosarchive.com/ lots of great speed run on that site! I used to have a Metroid Prime speed run which was a "world record". But... only for a few months before it was defeated. :(

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Modifié par jamesbrown3, 04 avril 2013 - 04:32 .


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[quote]INVADERONE wrote...

[/quote]
trolololol

#yolo #swag[/quote]

A guy??:sick::sick::sick::sick:[/quote]
Dude you got a lot of gerls thinking I am too. :D:D:D:D:D:D COMMIT SEPPUKU NAO!
This is me and my SUPER KOREAN MODEL GIRLFRIEND YO!

Image IPB

IM SHY... VERY SHY... :ph34r: LOLOLOLOL

#yoloswagtr;ld


[/quote]

For some reason this forum makes me feel like Koreans owe me for making them so popular on BSN.... <_<

[/quote]


I am glad you finally responded... tired of defending you to the unwashed masses...
Good job

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BOSSTER23 wrote...

Neither Speed running or soloing takes skill...but when combined into a solo speed run then you become a man amongst boys

Shout out to Heroic Mass ;)


Or N7-Link :whistle:

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Clearly you need some skill.  You need to know the maps and spawn points, and you need to be good enough to clean stuff up quickly after the Rockets are out.  You do not have to be an elite player though.  I'm pretty sure I could speedrun just fine, and I am just a passable Gold player.

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Geek Fest wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Bask in my thread you spawn nuking scrubs :devil:


Can't imagine it will be too long before someone here on bsn creates a pardoy thread "Does soloing take any skill?". It is just kiting enemies around the map afterall.


LOL me and redjohn would be all over that.
Friend request sent

#196
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LuckyBullet95 wrote...

BOSSTER23 wrote...

Neither Speed running or soloing takes skill...but when combined into a solo speed run then you become a man amongst boys

Shout out to Heroic Mass ;)


Or N7-Link :whistle:


Oh yeah...the guy who is so skilled at the game he uses level 16-18 characters to solo speed run

oh wait...lol

Modifié par BOSSTER23, 04 avril 2013 - 04:14 .


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Bechter wrote...

Hendrix137 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Let's say you're playing wave 6 objective on platinum, and you get an escort. As luck would have it, the drone path takes you straight through a double spawn. That's right, all eight enemies in one spot, drone wants to go straight through the middle.

Can you get the drone through without missiling? Because I
can. Any good speed runner should know how. Not only that, but I can do
it with a Drell. I'm not even particularly good at rocket runs.


Ops Pack spam.

lightswitch wrote...

Or here's another example. Wave 10, still plat, targets. Can you do it without missiles and not wasting any time killing any other enemies? Can you do it fast? Because any speed runner who takes clear times seriously has learned how.


Thermal Clip Packs spam.

Amirite? 


This is so meta :wizard:

Get off my Lawn!
I actually took the time to read through this entire thread.  Nicely done, Cain.
Both sides were well represented, though the speedrunners were the only side represented factually.

Good day.

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megabeast37215 wrote...
Developing the speed-run strategy takes skill and know-how... executing it is pretty simple.



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Gornok wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

trolololol

#yolo #swag


A guy??:sick::sick::sick::sick:

Dude you got a lot of gerls thinking I am too. :D:D:D:D:D:D COMMIT SEPPUKU NAO!
This is me and my SUPER KOREAN MODEL GIRLFRIEND YO!

Image IPB

IM SHY... VERY SHY... :ph34r: LOLOLOLOL

#yoloswagtr;ld



For some reason this forum makes me feel like Koreans owe me for making them so popular on BSN.... <_<



I am glad you finally responded... tired of defending you to the unwashed masses...
Good job

wat

Modifié par LegionofRannoch, 04 avril 2013 - 04:34 .


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caineghis2500 wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

A solo isn't all that hard either TBH, all it takes is patience to kite enemies. Formulating and improving strategies for speedruns take skill and a team only goes as far as its weakest link. If you have someone with a small amount of missiles, low level weapons, etc. they aren't going to be able to be much help in a speedrun. That same player could go into Platinum and solo it assuming they know the spawns and have the patience to kite.

I don't think Armored Compartments speedruns take a ton of skill (until you are going for record times), but no missile speedruns or even non Armored Compartments speedruns do (since you have to adjust on the fly and can't rely on missiles as much).


Try kiting on glacier on plat solo. You'll see how much skills you really have

You're assuming the easiest speedrunning map is also the easiest soloing map?? or maybe you are just trying to be difficult. A fair comparison would be trying to solo Vancouver, Giant, or Ghost.

No, speedrunning isn't as hard as soloing. We know that was the point of this thread. The 'difficulty' in speedrunning is all self-imposed because you are simply allowing yourself to make less mistakes. Your margin for error is a lot less when you are trying to beat a time over and over again and that is where the difficulty lies, not messing up.. at all.

To achieve the best of times possible you have to be pretty good with a variety of skills, I like to think. But, If a player's goal is to 'speedrun' and get 10-12 minute times, they will find it incredibly easy after learning the strategy and playing with 3 other knowing players.