Let's settle this once and for all and see where this forum stands on nudity with a poll.
#226
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 07:49
#227
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 08:06
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Not more realistic. More moving. Nude corpses lack the dignity of clothed corpses.Chris Priestly wrote...
To each their own kink. I don't judge. If you need to see naked dead people to think something is more realistic I wish you well in your career as an amatuer coroner.
Agreed nudity can be moving but seeing the dead king "happy to see you" was a bit much..
Wow, me agreeing with Priestley twice in a thread.. First time for everything I guess.
RE: Interactive sex roleplay. Second Life has a lot of it, and even there, the best part of it, said by expert after eXXXpert is the imagination part. Besides, it is another area where "multiplayer" or "co-op" pwns singleplayer
Modifié par Renmiri1, 06 avril 2013 - 08:21 .
#228
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 12:33
#229
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 12:39
ibbikiookami wrote...
As long as they don't do it with underwear on I'm happy. So full nudity, cover up cleverly with the surroundings or kiss and fade to black.
This. For God's (or, to be faithful to Dragon Age, the Maker's) sake, this.
#230
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 02:37
If you combine options 1, 2, 3 and 4, 207 people voted for nudity.
In option 5, 35 voted for topless only (probably ala Witcher 2)
So if you count that as nudity, 242 people voted for nudity.
Now if you count options 6, 7, and 8, 244 people voted against it.
The rest don't care.
As you can see, the argument that only prude Americans and overly senstive people, outside of the "mature" BSN is against nudity, is pretty much BS. Half the people on this forum so far, doesn't want to stare at characters nude.
Modifié par M25105, 06 avril 2013 - 03:37 .
#231
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:02
#232
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:07
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Much of DAO's design suggests that there was supposed to be nudity in it, but then the nudity was covered at the last. The first released clip of a desire demon showed her with exposed nipples. When asked about that, David Gaider said "it's not like we don't show nipples elsewhere, so whatever." (I'd link to that post if the old BioBoards were still up).
I need proof about that desire demon claim. I just looked at every trailer of DA:O, and didn't even see a desire demon.
#233
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:40
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
iakus wrote...
What's wrong with Alpha Protocol type romances? They were pretty much just "fade to black" Okay SIE had a brief underwear scene and Mina got a scene afterwards just wearing a shirt. What more is needed?
It's the development of the relationship that makes the romance. Not what goes on in the bedroom (or the med center, in SIE's case)
Med center in the enemy base filled with men who want to kill you.
Lol. That was just...odd and amusing.
#234
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:44
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Renmiri1 wrote...
Agreed nudity can be moving but seeing the dead king "happy to see you" was a bit much..
Wow, me agreeing with Priestley twice in a thread.. First time for everything I guess.
RE: Interactive sex roleplay. Second Life has a lot of it, and even there, the best part of it, said by expert after eXXXpert is the imagination part. Besides, it is another area where "multiplayer" or "co-op" pwns singleplayerLike in combat, a clumsy AI is no match to having another human being interactive with your avatar and reacting to your shooting / healing / etc in real time
You really don't have to have...it...in that state, you know. That's a choice you make with the mod, as i recall.
You like talking about Second Life's sex system, don't you...
#235
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:46
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
M25105 wrote...
So let's see after 600 votes, where does the people on this forum stand on nudity.
If you combine options 1, 2, 3 and 4, 207 people voted for nudity.
In option 5, 35 voted for topless only (probably ala Witcher 2)
So if you count that as nudity, 242 people voted for nudity.
Now if you count options 6, 7, and 8, 244 people voted against it.
The rest don't care.
As you can see, the argument that only prude Americans and overly senstive people, outside of the "mature" BSN is against nudity, is pretty much BS. Half the people on this forum so far, doesn't want to stare at characters nude.
While I agree with the premise of this, and agree on your results, you can't say the bolded/red-ed.
You don't have enough information to say definitively that "the people on this forum" feel that way.
#236
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 03:55
#237
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 04:08
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
M25105 wrote...
600+ votes is a decent enough sample poll if you ask me to see where this forum stand. Obviously you can't get everyone to vote.
Dude! Do you remember what I said? Over 1700 people join a day!
Now, to account for vagrancies, and just to be fair, let's knock that down. Say to half. That's still 850 people joining the BSN per day.
Your sample size is less than--basically it's the equivalent of running an experiment on a population with less people than the population generates in a day. It's purely, purely inconclusive. You can't say anything definitively.
#238
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 04:11
#239
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 04:17
I'd say it's representative of the regulars plus some occasional passers-by. i.e. people interested enough in both the question and the game to actually vote. The whole forum? Certainly not.M25105 wrote...
600+ votes is a decent enough sample poll if you ask me to see where this forum stand. Obviously you can't get everyone to vote.
And what's even the whole forum put against the whole buyers base?
So, it's a small sample, not really representative of those who really count: potential DA3 buyers.
#240
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 04:42
Sutekh wrote...
I'd say it's representative of the regulars plus some occasional passers-by. i.e. people interested enough in both the question and the game to actually vote. The whole forum? Certainly not.M25105 wrote...
600+ votes is a decent enough sample poll if you ask me to see where this forum stand. Obviously you can't get everyone to vote.
And what's even the whole forum put against the whole buyers base?
So, it's a small sample, not really representative of those who really count: potential DA3 buyers.
And don't forget the regulars or passer-bys that feel no need to vote in a online poll.
#241
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 04:58
addiction21 wrote...
Sutekh wrote...
I'd say it's representative of the regulars plus some occasional passers-by. i.e. people interested enough in both the question and the game to actually vote. The whole forum? Certainly not.M25105 wrote...
600+ votes is a decent enough sample poll if you ask me to see where this forum stand. Obviously you can't get everyone to vote.
And what's even the whole forum put against the whole buyers base?
So, it's a small sample, not really representative of those who really count: potential DA3 buyers.
And don't forget the regulars or passer-bys that feel no need to vote in a online poll.
Or have no option to choose to accurately reflect their opinion, since the poll seems more about sex scenes than nudity in general.
#242
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 05:03
#243
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 05:31
EntropicAngel wrote...
You really don't have to have...it...in that state, you know. That's a choice you make with the mod, as i recall.
You like talking about Second Life's sex system, don't you...
Oh thank the maker!
Why would anyone want to
Amateur coroners, ya that is it.
And here me thinking that SL sex system was the height of perv!
#244
Guest_Puddi III_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 05:44
Guest_Puddi III_*
He can't really say the stuff in black either. Aside from 40% not being half, the poll is unscientific and isn't controlled for self selection bias, response bias, etc. The info so obtained is useless.EntropicAngel wrote...
M25105 wrote...
So let's see after 600 votes, where does the people on this forum stand on nudity.
If you combine options 1, 2, 3 and 4, 207 people voted for nudity.
In option 5, 35 voted for topless only (probably ala Witcher 2)
So if you count that as nudity, 242 people voted for nudity.
Now if you count options 6, 7, and 8, 244 people voted against it.
The rest don't care.
As you can see, the argument that only prude Americans and overly senstive people, outside of the "mature" BSN is against nudity, is pretty much BS. Half the people on this forum so far, doesn't want to stare at characters nude.
While I agree with the premise of this, and agree on your results, you can't say the bolded/red-ed.
You don't have enough information to say definitively that "the people on this forum" feel that way.
edit: actually I guess on this forum it would be grey/white.
Modifié par Filament, 06 avril 2013 - 05:45 .
#245
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 05:47
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
#246
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 07:02
Ren, seriously, I doubt the modders did this with Cailan's corpse specifically in mind. It's an oversight.Renmiri1 wrote...
And here me thinking that SL sex system was the height of perv!They have nothing on Nexxus modders apparently.
I think.
(anyway, the tame version looks much better imho, because even without being dead and hanging, your own PC and companions constantly in a happy state stops being hilarious after a couple seconds)
#247
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 07:25
Sutekh wrote...
Ren, seriously, I doubt the modders did this with Cailan's corpse specifically in mind. It's an oversight.Renmiri1 wrote...
And here me thinking that SL sex system was the height of perv!They have nothing on Nexxus modders apparently.
I think.
(anyway, the tame version looks much better imho, because even without being dead and hanging, your own PC and companions constantly in a happy state stops being hilarious after a couple seconds)
I think the other version mainly lends itself to the sex scenes (which seems to be the main draw for it from what I've read), but yeah, I wouldn't be able to undress my PC without rolling my eyes I think. And since I'd rather not sumble upon happy corpses... (And considering how easy it is to configure what you want if you can install the NBAIO override -- and can even do so without quitting the game -- I don't quite see why people don't just change it for the sex scenes and otherwise use the tame version.)
#248
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 10:48
But this little misunderstanding shows how any mod - including a sex mod - takes work, dedication, scripting.. Otherwise unintended results may make it worse
So I'm against wanting Bioware or other gaming companies to spend time and money planning and doing this stuff. I'm not a prude and I have no problems with the human body or with sex. But "happy corpses" and other unintended stuff make adding anatomically correct bodies a lot of work to do it in a way that wouldn't be cringe worthy. I'd rather gaming companies spend time and money on story, combat, level design, scenery, etc...
Modifié par Renmiri1, 06 avril 2013 - 10:50 .
#249
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 10:53
#250
Posté 06 avril 2013 - 10:56




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