EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
Just have 'em kiss and fade to black for crying out loud.
Let's settle this once and for all and see where this forum stands on nudity with a poll.
#76
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 01:43
#77
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 02:06
Melca36 wrote...
Interesting how your poll omits two women but mentions two men.
I did smell bigotry from this poll. How sad.
#78
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 02:12
#79
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:05
SinerAthin wrote...
Before reading some of the comments in this thread, I didn't think my expectations to this forum could fall any lower.
Well, I guess I was proven wrong :/
I agree. People are too quick to jump to the conclusion that if people want realistic sex and nudity in games, it's merely a ploy for "boobies!" That is what you're saying, right?
Given that DA and ME games are rated mature, I have to assume that most people posting here are adults. I'm continuously surprised when they act like teenagers when it comes to discussing the issue. There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity with an adult audience. If we want more realistic and compelling characters, sex and/or nudity will come up occasionally. I don't think anyone is asking for gratuitous sex. Like I said, I think the Witcher 2 pulled it off the best with that great scene of Triss and Geralt in the bath.
#80
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:10
Degs29 wrote...
SinerAthin wrote...
Before reading some of the comments in this thread, I didn't think my expectations to this forum could fall any lower.
Well, I guess I was proven wrong :/
I agree. People are too quick to jump to the conclusion that if people want realistic sex and nudity in games, it's merely a ploy for "boobies!" That is what you're saying, right?
Given that DA and ME games are rated mature, I have to assume that most people posting here are adults. I'm continuously surprised when they act like teenagers when it comes to discussing the issue. There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity with an adult audience. If we want more realistic and compelling characters, sex and/or nudity will come up occasionally. I don't think anyone is asking for gratuitous sex. Like I said, I think the Witcher 2 pulled it off the best with that great scene of Triss and Geralt in the bath.
Nicely said friend. Spot on
#81
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:13
#82
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:17
#83
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:19
Now, to the question at hand, peole who want nudity in games often don't want it for the love scenes at all. I insist that DAO benefitted tremendously from nude mods even if the player never romanced anyone. Finding Cailan's body in Ostagar was a much more moving scene with nude mods, as Cailan's nude form lacks the dignity of his modestly covered form in the unmodded game.
Moreover, the piles of corpses in Fort Drakon appear far more barbarous if those corpses are nude.
Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 05 avril 2013 - 04:21 .
#84
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:28
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
That's what mods are for.
Now, to the question at hand, peole who want nudity in games often don't want it for the love scenes at all. I insist that DAO benefitted tremendously from nude mods even if the player never romanced anyone. Finding Cailan's body in Ostagar was a much more moving scene with nude mods, as Cailan's nude form lacks the dignity of his modestly covered form in the unmodded game.
Moreover, the piles of corpses in Fort Drakon appear far more barbarous if those corpses are nude.
That's an excellent point that's often overlooked - nudity can be a very effective story device even in a non-sexual context.
#85
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:31
Yeah... I wouldn't really call the Cailan scene more "moving" if he's nude, given that he's also quite clearly happy to see you. Until certain difficulties with animation are resolved, either sex scenes with men or non-sex scenes with men are going to look absurd with nudity on.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
That's what mods are for.
Now, to the question at hand, peole who want nudity in games often don't want it for the love scenes at all. I insist that DAO benefitted tremendously from nude mods even if the player never romanced anyone. Finding Cailan's body in Ostagar was a much more moving scene with nude mods, as Cailan's nude form lacks the dignity of his modestly covered form in the unmodded game.
Moreover, the piles of corpses in Fort Drakon appear far more barbarous if those corpses are nude.
#86
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:36
Xilizhra wrote...
Yeah... I wouldn't really call the Cailan scene more "moving" if he's nude, given that he's also quite clearly happy to see you. Until certain difficulties with animation are resolved, either sex scenes with men or non-sex scenes with men are going to look absurd with nudity on.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
That's what mods are for.
Now, to the question at hand, peole who want nudity in games often don't want it for the love scenes at all. I insist that DAO benefitted tremendously from nude mods even if the player never romanced anyone. Finding Cailan's body in Ostagar was a much more moving scene with nude mods, as Cailan's nude form lacks the dignity of his modestly covered form in the unmodded game.
Moreover, the piles of corpses in Fort Drakon appear far more barbarous if those corpses are nude.
Haha, that's also true - I admit that I use the "clothed prisoners" mod with the "natural bodies" nude mod for that reason! XD
#87
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:42
#88
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:43
#89
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:51
Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Degs29 wrote...
SinerAthin wrote...
Before reading some of the comments in this thread, I didn't think my expectations to this forum could fall any lower.
Well, I guess I was proven wrong :/
I agree. People are too quick to jump to the conclusion that if people want realistic sex and nudity in games, it's merely a ploy for "boobies!" That is what you're saying, right?
Given that DA and ME games are rated mature, I have to assume that most people posting here are adults. I'm continuously surprised when they act like teenagers when it comes to discussing the issue. There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity with an adult audience. If we want more realistic and compelling characters, sex and/or nudity will come up occasionally. I don't think anyone is asking for gratuitous sex. Like I said, I think the Witcher 2 pulled it off the best with that great scene of Triss and Geralt in the bath.
Anyone who thinks teenagers want to do away with sex and nudity in media has clearly never met one.
#90
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 04:53
Perhaps his corpse was still affectted by an unusually long period of rigor mortis?Xilizhra wrote...
Yeah... I wouldn't really call the Cailan scene more "moving" if he's nude, given that he's also quite clearly happy to see you. Until certain difficulties with animation are resolved, either sex scenes with men or non-sex scenes with men are going to look absurd with nudity on.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
That's what mods are for.
Now, to the question at hand, peole who want nudity in games often don't want it for the love scenes at all. I insist that DAO benefitted tremendously from nude mods even if the player never romanced anyone. Finding Cailan's body in Ostagar was a much more moving scene with nude mods, as Cailan's nude form lacks the dignity of his modestly covered form in the unmodded game.
Moreover, the piles of corpses in Fort Drakon appear far more barbarous if those corpses are nude.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 05 avril 2013 - 04:53 .
#91
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:23
Plaintiff wrote...
Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Degs29 wrote...
SinerAthin wrote...
Before reading some of the comments in this thread, I didn't think my expectations to this forum could fall any lower.
Well, I guess I was proven wrong :/
I agree. People are too quick to jump to the conclusion that if people want realistic sex and nudity in games, it's merely a ploy for "boobies!" That is what you're saying, right?
Given that DA and ME games are rated mature, I have to assume that most people posting here are adults. I'm continuously surprised when they act like teenagers when it comes to discussing the issue. There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity with an adult audience. If we want more realistic and compelling characters, sex and/or nudity will come up occasionally. I don't think anyone is asking for gratuitous sex. Like I said, I think the Witcher 2 pulled it off the best with that great scene of Triss and Geralt in the bath.
Anyone who thinks teenagers want to do away with sex and nudity in media has clearly never met one.
Haha, not exactly what I was saying. I meant why are we as adults looking at things from the perspective of teenagers? Yes, young guys can often think of little else besides the fact that the girl sitting next to him in class would look great in her birthday suit.... And they may not realize (at the time) there's a lot more to dealings with girls than that. They're just looking for a lay.
That, of course, is not what I'm looking for in video games. The point I was making is that why does everyone assume wanting sex and nudity in games expressly confirms the above is what we're looking for?! I think most would agree that the prostitutes in TW2 are far less compelling characters than Triss. Yet those scenes with Geralt add a more realistic depth to her character.
#92
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:29
"No, I want them to be nude, but the camera and shadows should cover up their naughty bits"...
This is the best anyone can hope for I think. Much better than underwear sex without resorting to a weak fade to black.
#93
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:45
I am surprised it is so split with a slight lean towards less nudity than more.
#94
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:47
Topsider wrote...
I voted for the first option but I don't really expect Bioware to go that far. They'd be torn apart by the morality police.
"No, I want them to be nude, but the camera and shadows should cover up their naughty bits"...
This is the best anyone can hope for I think. Much better than underwear sex without resorting to a weak fade to black.
#95
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:50
Degs29 wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Degs29 wrote...
SinerAthin wrote...
Before reading some of the comments in this thread, I didn't think my expectations to this forum could fall any lower.
Well, I guess I was proven wrong :/
I agree. People are too quick to jump to the conclusion that if people want realistic sex and nudity in games, it's merely a ploy for "boobies!" That is what you're saying, right?
Given that DA and ME games are rated mature, I have to assume that most people posting here are adults. I'm continuously surprised when they act like teenagers when it comes to discussing the issue. There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity with an adult audience. If we want more realistic and compelling characters, sex and/or nudity will come up occasionally. I don't think anyone is asking for gratuitous sex. Like I said, I think the Witcher 2 pulled it off the best with that great scene of Triss and Geralt in the bath.
Anyone who thinks teenagers want to do away with sex and nudity in media has clearly never met one.
Haha, not exactly what I was saying. I meant why are we as adults looking at things from the perspective of teenagers? Yes, young guys can often think of little else besides the fact that the girl sitting next to him in class would look great in her birthday suit.... And they may not realize (at the time) there's a lot more to dealings with girls than that. They're just looking for a lay.
That, of course, is not what I'm looking for in video games. The point I was making is that why does everyone assume wanting sex and nudity in games expressly confirms the above is what we're looking for?! I think most would agree that the prostitutes in TW2 are far less compelling characters than Triss. Yet those scenes with Geralt add a more realistic depth to her character.
I'm guessing you think Geralt to be rather shallow then, since the man never takes off his pants.
It honestly makes my day when people hold up TW2 (a game that I thoroughly enjoyed) as a mature example of how to do nudity in games. The whole "boobies are great, wee-wee's are gross"-vibe in that game can really only be called mature by anyone who is... Um.. Well, whom I don't agree with.
But now that I have you guys here, how does that work?? Did you not notice that she's naked and he's wearing pants? Is it a practical issue, where you reckon it's at least easier for the poor guy to grind a hole in one pair of pants rather than two sets of underware? I'm honestly curious because I see this all the time in this discussion, and I don't get it.
On topic, just fade to black. Sex in games can probably be awesome if done right, but I'm betting it won't be and doing it wrong just makes the whole thing look silly.
Modifié par Commander Kurt, 05 avril 2013 - 05:52 .
#96
Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:53
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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:57
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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:58
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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 05:59
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Posté 05 avril 2013 - 06:02
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