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[Bayonet Hipshot]

From Dragon Age Origins. 

I really don't want Bioware to nick combat system from other games. I would rather Dragon Age's combat be unique.

Combat was one of the best things about Origins. It was really fun to play, you can pause and make tactical choices. As someone who loves strategy  & tactics, it was a dream come true.

Modifié par The Sin, 06 avril 2013 - 02:01 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

I'd usually agree but we haven't actually seen [/b]any Project Eternity combat. 

True. But they have said its going to be almost identical to the combat in the infinity engine games. 

Sawyer has also mentioned cooldowns for some spells (typically lower level spells), as well as some other potential differences (spells being contained in spell books, which must be equipped and the like).

I actually disagree that they have said it's going to be "almost identical" to the Infinity Engine games.  Obsidian has IE as a baseline, but they're still looking at ways to vary up the system.  Fortunately, Sawyer is a mechanics and rules guru.

If the DA games were to entertain other options than a cool down system (at least for all skills), I would be extremely excited/intrigued. 

[Twisted Path]

Action-RPGs are a dime a dozen (and a lot of fun, play them all the time and I don't mind them when they're good.) But I bought a game that was marketed as the "Spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate," because I wanted to kick it oldschool.

[wsandista]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

I'd usually agree but we haven't actually seen any Project Eternity combat. 

True. But they have said its going to be almost identical to the combat in the infinity engine games.

Sawyer has also mentioned cooldowns for some spells (typically lower level spells), as well as some other potential differences (spells being contained in spell books, which must be equipped and the like).

I actually disagree that they have said it's going to be "almost identical" to the Infinity Engine games.  Obsidian has IE as a baseline, but they're still looking at ways to vary up the system.  Fortunately, Sawyer is a mechanics and rules guru.

It isn't going to be identical to IE games. It will be a bit closer to NWN2, but incorporate several things that are more cRPG friendly than 3.5 D&D rules.

Which is what I would like to see in DA3. A system that is highly tactical and where combat cannot be won simply by spamming abilities.

Modifié par wsandista, 06 avril 2013 - 02:55 .

[Brockololly]

XCOM.

Just make a turned based DA game.

[grumpymooselion]

The sad reality is if I could make Bioware release DA3 as a tabletop PnP game, and force all of you to sit around tables playing together . . . I'd do it. That combat system. As such it's probably best that Bioware have final say on this one.

[10K]

Janan Pacha wrote...

The sad reality is if I could make Bioware release DA3 as a tabletop PnP game, and force all of you to sit around tables playing together . . . I'd do it. That combat system. As such it's probably best that Bioware have final say on this one.

But what if we have no friends and we're lonely, who will play with then? Will we be forced to play alone:crying:

[Fortlowe]

For Mages: Bioshock. Imagine a hedge mage specialization that can summon a swarm of poisonous spiders to assault an opponent. Then setting those spiders on fire.

For Rogues: Assassins Creed. Conner Kenway was a duel wielding laceration machine. Maybe not so timing intensive, but if your looking for how to make your rogue look badass in a fight, there aren't many better places to look.

For Warriors: Batman: AA. Force multiplying beatdowns with extreme prejudice.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

I'd usually agree but we haven't actually seen any Project Eternity combat. 

True. But they have said its going to be almost identical to the combat in the infinity engine games.

Sawyer has also mentioned cooldowns for some spells (typically lower level spells), as well as some other potential differences (spells being contained in spell books, which must be equipped and the like).

I actually disagree that they have said it's going to be "almost identical" to the Infinity Engine games.  Obsidian has IE as a baseline, but they're still looking at ways to vary up the system.  Fortunately, Sawyer is a mechanics and rules guru.

And thank the lord for that. My biggest gripe with PST and BG2 was the combat system, and in particular, the Vancian magic system.

[BouncyFrag]

Instead of a drastically different combat system, I would like to have a separate mode from the main game where you can select any party of any type to experiment with tactics, equipment, etc. Effective tactics can then be saved and applied to the main game.

[Hazegurl]

I liked the combat just fine in DA2. But I wouldn't mind it if they added some things from Dragon's Dogma. Like climbing on huge enemies like dragons etc to defeat them. I also like it when my pawn grabs an enemy and holds him down for me to kill. It has a real sense of working together.

[Renmiri1]

Brockololly wrote...

XCOM.

Just make a turned based DA game.

 

What is next, "Pong" and 8 bit ? 


In WoW there is an area that is under the sea  (Vash'jr) which allows you to swim up and down during combat. I loved the 3D nature of it. Instead of just a limited swath in front or behind you to worry about,  you could be tackled from below or from above and you could do the same to enemies.

The entire area is breathtaking, even with WoW's crappy graphics engine

[BadgerladDK]

Honestly... I'd just take DA2 and dial down the super hero-ish jumping across the screen.

Recently played Origins on PC for the first time (after a loooot of time on the 360 version) and frankly, the pace annoyed me. Also, would have liked an option to disable friendly fire on higher difficulties. Was annoying to have to choose between mowing down everything in sight or being able to use the big area spells without getting caught in micro management hell.

[M Hedonist]

Dragon Age Origins. No compromises, no ifs, no buts.

[Druk-Qs]

Realistic: I would like to see a mixture of Origins with some other game.
There's no need to throw away what make Dragon Age's gameplay.... well Dragon Age.
Something more fluid and responsive, akin to what was done in hack-n-slashy games, like the Souls series, or The Witcher 2, with the party system. I'd also like for the game much more challenging.
I'm not sure I'm explaining well, I'm rather tired at the moment, my apologies.

Unrealistically: I'd like for it to have XCOM's battle system. That was awesome.
Won't happen, but damn I would love it.

Modifié par One_Sunny_Place, 06 avril 2013 - 11:37 .

[philippe willaume]

I Like Cats And wrote...

A more complex and flushed out version of Origins.

+1

[Noctis Augustus]

TES V: Skyrim.

[mahony427]

Jedi knight 2: Jedi academy (my most favorite game-play experience)

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Telltale's Walking Dead game. By that I mean no combat or minimal.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 06 avril 2013 - 02:34 .

[Renmiri1]

Sauruz wrote...

Dragon Age Origins. No compromises, no ifs, no buts.

 :sick:

For us "twitch" players the DAO combat is so slow as to be nearly unplayable.
 
Honestly, I was about to throw the controller through the window and abandon DAO countless times. My BF flat out did that even before Ostagar battle. 

DA2 was fast enough to be bearable even a bit fun. But DAO ? If the game's story wasn't so darn good I'd never had brought myself to finish it. DA2 is a nice compromise and the mage battle animations were pretty sweet.

[Twisted Path]

I loved the combat system in Origins and I think with faster movement speeds and something done to make mages less overpowered it would have been perfect. Different tastes I suppose.

[ejoslin]

I don't know. The Sims 3 has a pretty awesome combat system. You click on your enemy, imply that their mother is a llama, and you can eventually slap them and even fight them. A big cloud of dust appears while the sims tussle, and then one wins and the other skulks off.



In all seriousness, I don't get why you would take the combat from another game. I really did like the DAO combat system. DA2 was a bit too comical for my taste, though. And if I wanted a different type of combat, like shooting or whatever, I'd play a different genre.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 avril 2013 - 08:15 .