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[Prkl8r]

 Seriously, this bug has been in the game for months and it has presisted through like 2 patches now.

It makes ashley basically useless unless you set squaddies not to use powers.

[Joryn01]

I just don't put any points into marksman for her. Then She won't try to use it.

[Prkl8r]

It's still a crappy workaround. Especially considering that marksman actually helps her if you give her a full auto rifle, like the revenant.

[Getorex]

Prkl8r wrote...

It's still a crappy workaround. Especially considering that marksman actually helps her if you give her a full auto rifle, like the revenant.

OK, I guess I didn't pay attention to that glitch...what is the Marksman glitch?  The glitch I DO notice is the concussive shot glitch.  In combat it is CONSTANTLY making noise and flickering as if discharging and immediately recharging (instantaneously).  So there is a second glitch w/Ash too eh?

[Forst1999]

Getorex wrote...

Prkl8r wrote...

It's still a crappy workaround. Especially considering that marksman actually helps her if you give her a full auto rifle, like the revenant.

OK, I guess I didn't pay attention to that glitch...what is the Marksman glitch?  The glitch I DO notice is the concussive shot glitch.  In combat it is CONSTANTLY making noise and flickering as if discharging and immediately recharging (instantaneously).  So there is a second glitch w/Ash too eh?

That actually sounds exactly like the marksman glitch.

[BounceDK]

lol I thought she was recharging her shield or something when I kept hearing that noise over & over again. Thanks to that bug, she only got to go on one mission with me and it was forced btw.

[Endurium]

This isn't a CTD or MP balance issue so probably won't be fixed, sadly.

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Endurium wrote...

This isn't a CTD or MP balance issue so probably won't be fixed, sadly.

I also didn't use marksman in my build at all (partially because i   know the bug existed) 

I don't  play mp at all but i thought i read  some where that they are not do any updates  or patches  of any kind on mp or sp  now .

[Prkl8r]

Getorex wrote...

Prkl8r wrote...

It's still a crappy workaround. Especially considering that marksman actually helps her if you give her a full auto rifle, like the revenant.

OK, I guess I didn't pay attention to that glitch...what is the Marksman glitch?  The glitch I DO notice is the concussive shot glitch.  In combat it is CONSTANTLY making noise and flickering as if discharging and immediately recharging (instantaneously).  So there is a second glitch w/Ash too eh?

It's a bug that makes Ashley bug out if she has points in marksman where she tries to spam activate it or something, but it doesnt go off. She instead just sits there trying to activate it and wont even shoot.

The only workarounds are to either not put points into marksman on her, which sucks because it's actually usefull on her, or to manually operate squadmates abilities, in which case marksman does not bugout when you have her use it.

Modifié par Prkl8r, 05 avril 2013 - 07:12 .

[mtmercydave09]

Seeing as how they screwed up Ash in other ways in ME3, I'm not surprised that they won't fix the bug either.

[Prkl8r]

You know, I was skeptical when people declared that bioware was destroyed when EA bought them. People said it was the end, I thought and still think they were just mad about ME2 being more action oriented than ME1 even though the combat in ME1 was garbage. Even with DA2 which was just a terrible game IMO, I thought it was just a major misstep that can sometimes happen when you take chances on games. 

I loved ME2 and ME3, things like this on the other hand, are what show me when a developer has jumped the shark. When a company stops supporting a game, leaving it with obvious glitches that probably wouldn't even be THAT hard to fix (supposidly there is a hack fix that people came up with on their own but it disables multiplayer), it's like a slap in the face to people.

Like saying "Well, we got our money, people seemed enjoyed to the game, so were just going to ignore what bugs are left since it's no longer worth our time." The game is barely a year old and already they dropped support? Mission accomplished right?

IMO Games shouldn't drop bug fixing support until, you know, at least all the obvious and persistent bugs are gone. I don't expect games to launch bug free, but I expect them to be bug free by the time that they drop support, especially if they were huge successes.

Modifié par Prkl8r, 06 avril 2013 - 12:14 .

[AlexMBrennan]

It's not just EA but ubiquitous in software industry - sales make money, so inevitably the focus is making new software rather than maintaining the old versions, and unless there is big business interest (Office, operating systems, etc) you are not getting any kind of long term support.

So unless you're Valve and have tons of money to make the world's best war-themed hat simulator F2P to promote your electronic distribution service there will be no long term support for games.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 05 avril 2013 - 09:56 .

[Nitrocuban]

Origin sure could need some positive PR, fixing gamebreaking bugs on a AAA+ title would be start.
Just sayin.

[Getorex]

Prkl8r wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Prkl8r wrote...

It's still a crappy workaround. Especially considering that marksman actually helps her if you give her a full auto rifle, like the revenant.

OK, I guess I didn't pay attention to that glitch...what is the Marksman glitch?  The glitch I DO notice is the concussive shot glitch.  In combat it is CONSTANTLY making noise and flickering as if discharging and immediately recharging (instantaneously).  So there is a second glitch w/Ash too eh?

It's a bug that makes Ashley bug out if she has points in marksman where she tries to spam activate it or something, but it doesnt go off. She instead just sits there trying to activate it and wont even shoot.

The only workarounds are to either not put points into marksman on her, which sucks because it's actually usefull on her, or to manually operate squadmates abilities, in which case marksman does not bugout when you have her use it.

Ah...OK, I THOUGHT sometimes she was sitting behind cover not doing much fairly often.  I guess now I know why.  She pops up and uses her powers if I direct her against a target just fine.  Perhaps I'll try deactivating automatic use of powers.  Even with the bug she does quite well for me.  She's practically indestructable whereas I'm always tossing medigel at Tali or Liara...even at Garrus...but rarely at her.  She and Vega are tanks.

[mtmercydave09]

Prkl8r wrote...

You know, I was skeptical when people declared that bioware was destroyed when EA bought them. People said it was the end, I thought and still think they were just mad about ME2 being more action oriented than ME1 even though the combat in ME1 was garbage. Even with DA2 which was just a terrible game IMO, I thought it was just a major misstep that can sometimes happen when you take chances on games. 

I loved ME2 and ME3, things like this on the other hand, are what show me when a developer has jumped the shark. When a company stops supporting a game, leaving it with obvious glitches that probably wouldn't even be THAT hard to fix (supposidly there is a hack fix that people came up with on their own but it disables multiplayer), it's like a slap in the face to people.

Like saying "Well, we got our money, people seemed enjoyed to the game, so were just going to ignore what bugs are left since it's no longer worth our time." The game is barely a year old and already they dropped support? Mission accomplished right?

IMO Games shouldn't drop bug fixing support until, you know, at least all the obvious and persistent bugs are gone. I don't expect games to launch bug free, but I expect them to be bug free by the time that they drop support, especially if they were huge successes.

Agreed, and not only is the game only a year old, but especially since they just released new DLC a month ago too, so there's possibly still some new players getting into playing the game.

[Han Shot First]

Its a shame you can't tweak allies abilities aboard the Normandy, like you can with Shepard.

An easy fix would be to just swap out the marksman ability with Carnage for example. Instead Ash could generate explosive combos with carnage & concussive shot.

[conjmk]

Kill Ashley on Virmire for the win.

[DWH1982]

I really wish they'd fix this. It's kind of depressing that I can't have my favorite character around for half the game - after she was gone for all of the previous game. The fact that one of her very useful skills is glitched is like rubbing salt in the wound.

I think we're stuck with it, though. No more patches.

[mtmercydave09]

conjmk wrote...

Kill Ashley on Virmire for the win.

That's a copout workaround but it works I suppose.

[mtmercydave09]

DWH1982 wrote...

I really wish they'd fix this. It's kind of depressing that I can't have my favorite character around for half the game - after she was gone for all of the previous game. The fact that one of her very useful skills is glitched is like rubbing salt in the wound.

I think we're stuck with it, though. No more patches.

Agreed.  Leave her out most of ME2, half of ME3, and then when you get her back she's bugged in combat, and a reclusive alcoholic out of combat.  Seriously what was Bioware thinking?

[conjmk]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

conjmk wrote...

Kill Ashley on Virmire for the win.

That's a copout workaround but it works I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for the Ashley fans. She really seemed to have gotten shafted in ME3. Which is ironic considering only 1.2% of players actually have kaidan in their playthroughs and not ash. 

[mtmercydave09]

conjmk wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

conjmk wrote...

Kill Ashley on Virmire for the win.

That's a copout workaround but it works I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for the Ashley fans. She really seemed to have gotten shafted in ME3. Which is ironic considering only 1.2% of players actually have kaidan in their playthroughs and not ash. 

You're right, she really did get shafted.  I'm still happy I stuck with her all 3 games though, but still theres a bit of disappointment.

Her turning into a reclusive drunk was something I did not see coming.  I guess Bioware thought we were shallow and would just be satisfied by her pretty face with her hair down, and her tight suit.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 03:59 .

[ewhalen]

Apparently the answer is "no". First romance dialog and now Marksman - Ashley shall remain shafted.

BioWare, you guys are just fantastic. Really. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

[voteDC]

ewhalen wrote...

Apparently the answer is "no". First romance dialog and now Marksman - Ashley shall remain shafted.

BioWare, you guys are just fantastic. Really. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

Look on the brightside. They gave fantastic support to the multi-player part of the game. 

A shame they never gave that same attention to the single player isn't it.

Modifié par voteDC, 26 mai 2013 - 12:26 .

[DWH1982]

Yeah, I've pretty much given up on this. It's a shame, given that I always used Marksman with Ash before the glitch developed.

I like ME3 as a whole, but things like this really are a let down.