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[Yestare7]

 
Hello there!!

What is Mass Effect? After joining BSN, I became a bit depressed for 3 days, getting dragged into the endless ending debates. It was hard to find an upbeat thread. And even though I enjoyed my destroy/citadel party ending, I found the bickering on BSN hard to take. So why stay? To talk about Mass Effect ofcourse!
- and what would be the purpose of this post? To promote happy endings, and positivity:happy::happy:

Over the last 2 weeks I have run a poll about the endings, and i thank you for voting.
(503 votes April 5)

social.bioware.com/4323819/polls/44634/

Predictably, Destroy did good. 6 out of 10 is great.
Apparently a lot of people like the thought of Shepard being alive, and in addition, remembered what they were fighting for 3 games long. (The numbers may be unbiased, but I am not!)

Much more interesting than that, is the fact that MEHEM ended in 2nd place with 16% of the votes!!:lol:
Soundly beating Synthesis and Control. (I repeat: soundly beating Synthesis and Control)
Now that makes me smile, and strongly supports the notion that people were aching for a happy ending. 

Mr Fob is making a lot of folks happy with his handiwork, and it has now come to the point where his ending is 2nd favorite behind Destroy. It would strike me as odd if Bioware is not taking notes.

(and remember: XBOX owners and PS3 owners cannot install MEHEM.
If they could, I believe MEHEM would have taken more than 20%)

Here are some more numbers I want you to take a look at:

http://social.biowar...28/polls/44619/

70% of voters (416 votes April 5)  are more or less positive about the series as a whole.
That is huge!!  We see a lot of crying and whining, but most folks are quite pleased about their experience.
(and I personally believe Citadel DLC must have helped quite a bit.)

So, positivity, happy endings, and dead Reapers. That to me is the definition of Mass Effect.


Yestare


Thanks for reading, have a nice pic for your effort:

Modifié par Yestare7, 05 avril 2013 - 09:40 .

[mtmercydave09]

I agree completely. I'm pretty positive about the ME trilogy, but I use the MEHEM ending. In my first playthrough I did the destroy ending with the EC, and that as ok but I really wanted to see Shep alive and then having him go back and meeting his crew for a celebration.  It just seemed to me that would have been more fitting than having Shep saying goodbye to everyone in London.

Like the end of the Citadel DLC when the LI says it was a damn good ride, Shep said it's the best. That's how I feel.

It really was a great ride, even with the ending issues.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 09:43 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

[voteDC]

I like the MEHEM and play Citadel after it. Makes the whole thing FAR FAR better for me.

Plus Yestare7, do you have a larger version of that picture, it'd make a fantastic wallpaper.

[mtmercydave09]

voteDC wrote...

I like the MEHEM and play Citadel after it. Makes the whole thing FAR FAR better for me.

Plus Yestare7, do you have a larger version of that picture, it'd make a fantastic wallpaper.

That's how I do it too, and I agree, it makes it far far better.  It's the happy ending that most wanted but never got from Bioware.  

Although have to say that the ending of Citadel DLC is good, but bittersweet.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 09:47 .

[mumba]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Who is that ginger in the middle?

A spy. 

008.

[voteDC]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

voteDC wrote...

I like the MEHEM and play Citadel after it. Makes the whole thing FAR FAR better for me.

Plus Yestare7, do you have a larger version of that picture, it'd make a fantastic wallpaper.

That's how I do it too, and I agree, it makes it far far better.  It's the happy ending that most wanted but never got from Bioware.  

Although have to say that the ending of Citadel DLC is good, but bittersweet.

I have to agree with you. The Citadel DLC is the perfect example of a bittersweet ending, especially if you romanced Thane. Just watched it on YouTube and it was fantastic.

[Astartes Marine]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Well to be fair grim darkness isn't necessarily a bad thing, it can in fact work if done well, see Warhammer 40K for an example.  Mass Effect hasn't always been that way and to have the sudden shift into full grimdark is rather jarring and feels a bit out of place.  I mean the after effects of the Reaper War wouldn't be sunshine and roses, but it shouldn't be like the Age of Strife before the Age of the Imperium either.

And for the record, I too would install MEHEM, though since I'm on Xbox...<_<

[mtmercydave09]

voteDC wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

voteDC wrote...

I like the MEHEM and play Citadel after it. Makes the whole thing FAR FAR better for me.

Plus Yestare7, do you have a larger version of that picture, it'd make a fantastic wallpaper.

That's how I do it too, and I agree, it makes it far far better.  It's the happy ending that most wanted but never got from Bioware.  

Although have to say that the ending of Citadel DLC is good, but bittersweet.

I have to agree with you. The Citadel DLC is the perfect example of a bittersweet ending, especially if you romanced Thane. Just watched it on YouTube and it was fantastic.

Agreed, that was fantastic.  

The scene with Shep and company getting ready to board the Normandy gets me everytime, it must be the music choice too.

My only real complaint with ME3 now that MEHEM fixed the ending, is that I wish they didn't turn Ash into a reclusive alcoholic.

[mtmercydave09]

Astartes Marine wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Well to be fair grim darkness isn't necessarily a bad thing, it can in fact work if done well, see Warhammer 40K for an example.  Mass Effect hasn't always been that way and to have the sudden shift into full grimdark is rather jarring and feels a bit out of place.  I mean the after effects of the Reaper War wouldn't be sunshine and roses, but it shouldn't be like the Age of Strife before the Age of the Imperium either.

And for the record, I too would install MEHEM, though since I'm on Xbox...<_<

Agreed, and for another reason too is that ME has always billed itself as having your choices matter, so you would think having a completely happy ending as a choice should have been in the game.

That being said, I'm still pretty happy and positive about ME, it's my favorite game series, and it was a freaking good journey.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 09:57 .

[ruggly]

And I feel like this thread will take a turn for the worse sometime soon..

[Ultrabobo]

Optimistic thread? That's preposterous!

Jokes aside, i'm pretty positive with Mass Effect as a whole, heck the first game was the reason i've bought a 360, i've had a good feeling. Was quite a ride from there, i think i've never been as attached to a game since Xenogears (come to think of it, it became confusing towards the end as well, go figure).

I've even came to terms with the ending..... i mean, with destroy and a fair bit of headcanon, but works. The Citadel ending is better though, that "the best", and Shep catching up with his friends running like a kid is sure bittersweet, but more on the sweet side if you ask me.

Good times.

[mtmercydave09]

Ultrabobo wrote...

Optimistic thread? That's preposterous!

Jokes aside, i'm pretty positive with Mass Effect as a whole, heck the first game was the reason i've bought a 360, i've had a good feeling. Was quite a ride from there, i think i've never been as attached to a game since Xenogears (come to think of it, it became confusing towards the end as well, go figure).

I've even came to terms with the ending..... i mean, with destroy and a fair bit of headcanon, but works. The Citadel ending is better though, that "the best", and Shep catching up with his friends running like a kid is sure bittersweet, but more on the sweet side if you ask me.

Good times.

Agreed.  That Citadel DLC to me made Shep feel less like a hero-man/woman and more human to me, and that's a good thing.  The rest of the characters felt more human as well.  It does make me wish that during the game the crew could have had some of those moments while aboard the Normandy instead of being serious all the time or being a reclusive alcoholic (Ash).  Especially since much of the game really was pretty doom and gloom, and could have used some moments to lighten things up, moreso than just Joker telling jokes.

The Citadel ending is how the series should have ended in my opinion.  It was perfect.  Looking off at the Normandy with everyone by your side, and letting everyone think about what adventures they all moved on to, and not wondering whether Shep lived or died.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 10:01 .

[Yestare7]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

 it was a freaking good journey.

"The best"

[Astartes Marine]

mtmercydave09 wrote...
Agreed, and for another reason too is that ME has always billed itself as having your choices matter, so you would think having a completely happy ending as a choice should have been in the game.

That being said, I'm still pretty happy and positive about ME, it's my favorite game series, and it was a freaking good journey.

From the start of the whole "ending incident" I had felt that while not a disney-ish ending, a happier "survive and beat the odds without losing EDI and the Geth" kind of ending should have been possible.  Much like the full survival perfect run of the Suicide Mission it should have required the utmost amount of investment on the part of the player and the most attention to details. 

In other words it should have been possible, but the absolute hardest to achieve.

[Yestare7]

Astartes Marine wrote...
And for the record, I too would install MEHEM, though since I'm on Xbox...<_<

Thank you, I had to quote that!!:)

[mtmercydave09]

Astartes Marine wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...
Agreed, and for another reason too is that ME has always billed itself as having your choices matter, so you would think having a completely happy ending as a choice should have been in the game.

That being said, I'm still pretty happy and positive about ME, it's my favorite game series, and it was a freaking good journey.

From the start of the whole "ending incident" I had felt that while not a disney-ish ending, a happier "survive and beat the odds without losing EDI and the Geth" kind of ending should have been possible.  Much like the full survival perfect run of the Suicide Mission it should have required the utmost amount of investment on the part of the player and the most attention to details. 

In other words it should have been possible, but the absolute hardest to achieve.

Bingo, took the words right out of my mouth.

And it's not like Bioware didn't have the mechanisms in place to judge whether a perfect ending would have been possible.  I mean, just get a perfect EMS score and choose destroy, and then you'd get that happy ending and then play the Citadel DLC after that ending.  It would flow pretty smoothly that way.

It would have made good business sense too in another way, since I think in order to get a perfect EMS score you'd have to get some of the DLC.  

Just thankful that MEHEM gives us that happy ending.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 10:07 .

[Mordanticus]

Astartes Marine wrote...

From the start of the whole "ending incident" I had felt that while not a disney-ish ending, a happier "survive and beat the odds without losing EDI and the Geth" kind of ending should have been possible.  Much like the full survival perfect run of the Suicide Mission it should have required the utmost amount of investment on the part of the player and the most attention to details. 

In other words it should have been possible, but the absolute hardest to achieve.

I support the above sentiment.. That would have been a wonderful positive..

Hold the Line.. For life..

[Ultrabobo]

Well yeah, of course a happy ending would have been peachy. I'd even play multiplayer to get there, probably wouldn't shoot Mordin though. Sadly, we're not going to get it, MEHEM is a damn good alternative, got to do the best with what we have i guess.
Despite all this, Mass Effect is still one of the best IPs i've seen in about 20ish years of gaming. That's my opinion.

Sidetracking a little, mtmercydave09 seen a lot of your posts lately, and i gather you're pretty hung up with what happened with Ash on the trilogy. While i admit you have a point (even more so since i've recently dusted off a Kaidan playthrough and seen how much better he is in ME3), i still think overall, if romanced, Ash comes off very well. Or at least in my mind is the best romance ending i've got (Jack and Miranda battling for second after CItadel).
There are positives

[Iakus]

I can't help but think that if MEHEM were avoilable on more platforms than just the PC, it's numbers in that poll would be even better...

[mtmercydave09]

Ultrabobo wrote...

Well yeah, of course a happy ending would have been peachy. I'd even play multiplayer to get there, probably wouldn't shoot Mordin though. Sadly, we're not going to get it, MEHEM is a damn good alternative, got to do the best with what we have i guess.
Despite all this, Mass Effect is still one of the best IPs i've seen in about 20ish years of gaming. That's my opinion.

Sidetracking a little, mtmercydave09 seen a lot of your posts lately, and i gather you're pretty hung up with what happened with Ash on the trilogy. While i admit you have a point (even more so since i've recently dusted off a Kaidan playthrough and seen how much better he is in ME3), i still think overall, if romanced, Ash comes off very well. Or at least in my mind is the best romance ending i've got (Jack and Miranda battling for second after CItadel).
There are positives

You're right, there are some positives to sticking with Ash, just think they could have done better and not had her stuck in her room most of the time.  It's like she was being punished lol, especially since you don't even get her back until after the Coup.  Citadel did help Ash some though, it was nice to meet her at the bar.  There were just some missed opportunities for Ash I believe, especially since she was such an important figure in ME1 and missing in ME2 practically.

Kaiden is better in ME3?  I never played with Kaiden so wouldn't know, but I heard he actually goes and plays cards with James.

I also agree with you about Mass Effect being one of the best IP's I've seen in 20 years of gaming.  It's by far my favorite series.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 05 avril 2013 - 11:14 .

[Ultrabobo]

Maybe better was the wrong word. It's subjective, let's say more involved. You see Kaidan playing cards with James, down in engineering with Adams after Thessia, has more personal dialogues rather than one liners about the last mission.