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#351
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iakus wrote...

And yes, there are plans for lower EMS versions of MEHEM.  Though I have only heard a cryptic line that the low EMS version will "make you not want to call it the Happy Ending  Mod anymore")

If it involves the destruction of the Normandy, along with everyone on it (so most of what a lot of people care about in the game) because the Reapers are still strong enough at that point thanks to the player being hopeless then that would be very good. And, unlike the negatives in the canon ending, actually make sense.

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I kind of like the mod, but the obvious difference in quality between what was made for the mod and what Bioware created throughout the series kinda kills it for me. It's a great effort, don't get me wrong, but the quality difference makes it difficult to accept. Hopefully the improvements that may come will make it better. The Harbinger lines during the beam run also felt out of place.

For now, I'll stick with Destroy.

Modifié par The Cheat, 06 mai 2013 - 07:17 .


#353
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mtmercydave09 wrote...

I agree completely. I'm pretty positive about the ME trilogy, but I use the MEHEM ending. In my first playthrough I did the destroy ending with the EC, and that as ok but I really wanted to see Shep alive and then having him go back and meeting his crew for a celebration.  It just seemed to me that would have been more fitting than having Shep saying goodbye to everyone in London.

Like the end of the Citadel DLC when the LI says it was a damn good ride, Shep said it's the best. That's how I feel.

It really was a great ride, even with the ending issues.


MEHEM is terrible. 

#354
Iakus

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Maximanimo wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

I agree completely. I'm pretty positive about the ME trilogy, but I use the MEHEM ending. In my first playthrough I did the destroy ending with the EC, and that as ok but I really wanted to see Shep alive and then having him go back and meeting his crew for a celebration.  It just seemed to me that would have been more fitting than having Shep saying goodbye to everyone in London.

Like the end of the Citadel DLC when the LI says it was a damn good ride, Shep said it's the best. That's how I feel.

It really was a great ride, even with the ending issues.


MEHEM is terrible. 


Ah, but that's the beauty of it:

If you do't like it, you don't have to install it.  You can stick with the original endings.

And since I like it, I can install it, and not have to commit war crimes to finish the game.

Everybody wins!

#355
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iakus wrote...

Maximanimo wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

I agree completely. I'm pretty positive about the ME trilogy, but I use the MEHEM ending. In my first playthrough I did the destroy ending with the EC, and that as ok but I really wanted to see Shep alive and then having him go back and meeting his crew for a celebration.  It just seemed to me that would have been more fitting than having Shep saying goodbye to everyone in London.

Like the end of the Citadel DLC when the LI says it was a damn good ride, Shep said it's the best. That's how I feel.

It really was a great ride, even with the ending issues.


MEHEM is terrible. 


Ah, but that's the beauty of it:

If you do't like it, you don't have to install it.  You can stick with the original endings.

And since I like it, I can install it, and not have to commit war crimes to finish the game.

Everybody wins!


Couldn't have said it better myself iakus!B)

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Nah, you're still committing genocide of the Reapers. MEHEM can't even avoid the war crime "stigma".

;)

Modifié par dreamgazer, 21 mai 2013 - 06:05 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

Nah, you're still committing genocide of the Reapers. MEHEM can't even avoid the war crime stigma.



You're such a cynic. :lol: Didn't you know that killing the "baddies" or the "villians" is not considered being genocide? Just like the bombing of Dresden, or Hiroshima-Nagasaki etc.. They are strategic acts of war. :lol: Now I'm a cynic. 

#358
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GimmeDaGun wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Nah, you're still committing genocide of the Reapers. MEHEM can't even avoid the war crime stigma.



You're such a cynic. :lol: Didn't you know that killing the "baddies" or the "villians" is not considered being genocide? Just like the bombing of Dresden, or Hiroshima-Nagasaki etc.. They are strategic acts of war. :lol: Now I'm a cynic. 


Hiroshima wasn't genocide because we didn't wipe out all the Japanese. But MEHEM wipes out all the Rea-

Wait, what am I doing? This is just fanfiction. Carry on.

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Optimystic_X wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Nah, you're still committing genocide of the Reapers. MEHEM can't even avoid the war crime stigma.



You're such a cynic. :lol: Didn't you know that killing the "baddies" or the "villians" is not considered being genocide? Just like the bombing of Dresden, or Hiroshima-Nagasaki etc.. They are strategic acts of war. :lol: Now I'm a cynic. 


Hiroshima wasn't genocide because we didn't wipe out all the Japanese. But MEHEM wipes out all the Rea-

Wait, what am I doing? This is just fanfiction. Carry on.


Off:

Yeah, right it wasn't an attempt to systematicly wipe out a whole nation, it was plain sensless mass murder of civilians (of a nation which's forces were already losing the war) with prototype mass homocidal technology (twice). But, what you say is not right either: if I follow your logic then I could come to the conclusion that the Holocaust or the Armenian genocide or the Genocide in Ruwanda etc. aren't genocides either since they did not utterly destroy or wipe out those nations or people. I don't think that you meant to say that. It's funny, it was the Ruwanda situation when the smart Western guardians of human rights (yeah, us Europeans and Americans) started to argue among us whether the word genocide-holocaust could be used on the situation in order to intervene or not (in the end we did not) while the Hutus systematically murdered every Tutci (both groups are the result of European devide and concquer tactics... since they were one people artificially devided in these two groups by the Belgian colonizers). Oh, Western civilization... we are no better than any other, just a bit less visceral and more cynical... ^_^

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 21 mai 2013 - 10:20 .


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/facepalm

Can't believe we are even discussing the morality of destroying the Reapers.

They are Machines.
Programmed to wipe out advanced intelligent life. They show no deviation from this programming or the ability or desire if you will, to change this. They are programed, they seek to achieve this programming and that means the death of all spaceflight capable species.

Unlike the Geth or EDI whom both shown at least some self determination, the Reapers are just homicidal programed tools.

You destroy such tools.

Modifié par Archonsg, 21 mai 2013 - 08:25 .


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Archonsg wrote...

/facepalm

Can't believe we are even discussing the morality of destroying the Reapers.

They are Machines.
Programmed to wipe out advanced intelligent life. They show no deviation from this programming or the ability or desire if you will, to change this. They are programed, they seek to achieve this programming and that means the death of all spaceflight capable species.

Unlike the Geth or EDI whom both shown at least some self determination, the Reapers are just homicidal programed tools.

You destroy such tools.


Eggzactleeeyy.

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GimmeDaGun wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Reapers are just homicidal programed tools. 

You destroy such tools.


Eggzactleeeyy.


+1

#363
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Long life to mehem

:))

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Maximanimo wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

I agree completely. I'm pretty positive about the ME trilogy, but I use the MEHEM ending. In my first playthrough I did the destroy ending with the EC, and that as ok but I really wanted to see Shep alive and then having him go back and meeting his crew for a celebration.  It just seemed to me that would have been more fitting than having Shep saying goodbye to everyone in London.

Like the end of the Citadel DLC when the LI says it was a damn good ride, Shep said it's the best. That's how I feel.

It really was a great ride, even with the ending issues.


MEHEM is terrible. 

Said no one in their right mind.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Nah, you're still committing genocide of the Reapers. MEHEM can't even avoid the war crime "stigma".

;)

Sure, but in this case they started it :lol:

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 21 mai 2013 - 12:39 .