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[mtmercydave09]

Ultrabobo wrote...

Maybe better was the wrong word. It's subjective, let's say more involved. You see Kaidan playing cards with James, down in engineering with Adams after Thessia, has more personal dialogues rather than one liners about the last mission.

Ah, we're on the same page then.  A more involved Ash would have been better for me, instead of the one liners.  That's my only real complaint with ME3, other than the ending which MEHEM fixed for me.  There's a lot to be positive about.

Thankfully there's some good male Shep & Ashley fanfic out there.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 06 avril 2013 - 12:35 .

[NeonFlux117]

You are (destroyers and people upset over the endings), in the minority!!!! through BioWare's amazing stats and math skillzz they have deemed you in the minority. Now go like the endings! Like them damn you. Like them!!!

[Iakus]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

You are (destroyers and people upset over the endings), in the minority!!!! through BioWare's amazing stats and math skillzz they have deemed you in the minority. Now go like the endings! Like them damn you. Like them!!!

But we're so confused!!!

[Tron Mega]

my experience is quite confusing.

first i loved ME1. ADORED ME1! i can remember telling myself to fight everyone who hated on ME1. "you never heard of MASS EFFECT!!??!?!? here take my copy....while i go out and buy another copy because how dare you leave me without mass effect?" ive easily played ME1 more then 50 times, all the while picking almost exactly the same choices every playthrough. yeah i played alot of shepards, but they were all the same. i preordered ME2 as soon as i found out there was going to be an ME2. extremely jacked up for release, got it on midnight release. didnt even need to smoke the fat joint i rolled i was so mad with wishfull thinking.

then i played some ME2. i can easily say i didnt appreciate ME2 at all. complaining about ME2 makes me depressed.

then comes ME3.

.....i mean really, what the **** happened???!!!

[NeonFlux117]

iakus wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

You are (destroyers and people upset over the endings), in the minority!!!! through BioWare's amazing stats and math skillzz they have deemed you in the minority. Now go like the endings! Like them damn you. Like them!!!

But we're so confused!!!

haha, you are confused you ludite!!! 


You cannot possiblly comprehend the 'artistic integrity' of the ME3 endings. You sir, you are a blight!!! repent and except the amaziing endings!!!!

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 05 avril 2013 - 11:45 .

[mtmercydave09]

Tron Mega wrote...

my experience is quite confusing.

first i loved ME1. ADORED ME1! i can remember telling myself to fight everyone who hated on ME1. "you never heard of MASS EFFECT!!??!?!? here take my copy....while i go out and buy another copy because how dare you leave me without mass effect?" ive easily played ME1 more then 50 times, all the while picking almost exactly the same choices every playthrough. yeah i played alot of shepards, but they were all the same. i preordered ME2 as soon as i found out there was going to be an ME2. extremely jacked up for release, got it on midnight release. didnt even need to smoke the fat joint i rolled i was so mad with wishfull thinking.

then i played some ME2. i can easily say i didnt appreciate ME2 at all. complaining about ME2 makes me depressed.

then comes ME3.

.....i mean really, what the **** happened???!!!

I wouldn't go so far as to say that about ME3 and ME2.  The journey was still a lot of fun in ME2 and ME3, but the replayability in ME3 is kind of killed for me.

[Zarcoff]

I played Mass Effect 1 the day it released, I hadn't hear much about it previously, I just had immense respect for Bioware after Neverwinter Nights. I've played though Mass Effect 1 and 2 multiple times, and had avoided Mass Effect 3 initially and up until this very March.

Then I heard that everyone hated the ending, and the internet exploded with discussion. I maintained blissful ignorance to everything regarding the Mass Effect 3 plot and would even go as far as to leave the room should my brother (who beat it the first two days after release) would speak about it with our friends.

I have now, just this last week, completed Mass Effect 3 and I can say I am quite surprsied by the ending. I am either in awe of Biowares incredible bravery ending a franchise in such a manner, or I am dumbstruck that a team of people could collaborate and agree that this was the best way for it to close.

I played through with Paragon choices and Sheperd as a complete hero. I achieved the extended cut ending and in the end, I chose to destroy the reapers, as I could not imagine this hero making any other choice. I've since disovered the MEHEM and I can't express how much of a simpler, yet infinitely more elegant close that was to this trilogy.

I find it near impossible to bring myself to replay the series knowing the outcomes, it's all become dreadfuly senseless to continue contributing to a story with such a close and no future. I have been reading of a new game, set in this universe, following a new person, but I would be troubled to even attempt investing myself or my time without a continuity of Sheperd's story.

Just some thoughts, from someone who literally just finished ME3 and had no expectations besides "the ending sucks". I couldn't agree more.

Modifié par Zarcoff, 06 avril 2013 - 12:58 .

[Kroitz]

Yestare7 wrote...

mtmercydave09 wrote...

 it was a freaking good journey.

"The best"

"- around!"

"Nothing is gonna ever keep you down!"

Modifié par Kroitz, 06 avril 2013 - 12:59 .

[zed888]

I'm not sure the numbers for MEHEM mean all those people just wanted a happy ending, despite the name. If I play to the end again, I'll install it first, but because it removes StarJar, not to make the ending happier. If anything I thought the EC epilogues were too optimistic as they were (except maybe control, with that creepy "I will lead an army none will dare oppose" stuff). And I'm not interested in Citadel.

Modifié par zed888, 06 avril 2013 - 01:12 .

[DOsquareZER]

iakus wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

You are (destroyers and people upset over the endings), in the minority!!!! through BioWare's amazing stats and math skillzz they have deemed you in the minority. Now go like the endings! Like them damn you. Like them!!!

But we're so confused!!!

Okay...

[mtmercydave09]

zed888 wrote...

I'm not sure the numbers for MEHEM mean all those people just wanted a happy ending, despite the name. If I play to the end again, I'll install it first, but because it removes StarJar, not to make the ending happier. If anything I thought the EC epilogues were too optimistic as they were (except maybe control, with that creepy "I will lead an army none will dare oppose" stuff). And I'm not interested in Citadel.

True, you're right about MEHEM.  Not sure if everyone wanted a happy ending, or just wanted a destroy ending that actually made sense.  I mean at least with MEHEM we see that Shepard lives, not just some scene of him breathing a couple times.

[Arisugawa]

Until MEHEM does something other than have Joker fly the Normandy around (in recycled footage) unmolested for the untold amount of minutes it would take to find and rescue Shepard while the Crucible conveniently sits at "armed" but not firing while the rest of the fleet (minus one helpful ship) has already jumped away, I can't support it.

I'm all for having a happier ending, but that isn't it for me.

Modifié par Arisugawa, 06 avril 2013 - 01:20 .

[mtmercydave09]

Arisugawa wrote...

Until MEHEM does something other than have Joker fly the Normandy around (in recycled footage) unmolested for the untold amount of minutes it would take to find and rescue Shepard while the Crucible conveniently sits at "armed" but not firing while the rest of the fleet (minus one helpful ship) has already jumped away, I can't support it.

I'm all for having a happier ending, but that isn't it for me.

Yeah, unfortunately it's probably about as close we're going to get without resorting to headcanon or fan fiction though.  It doesn't help that ME3 isn't the easiest thing to mod.

[zed888]

mtmercydave09 wrote...
Yeah, unfortunately it's probably about as close we're going to get without resorting to headcanon or fan fiction though.  It doesn't help that ME3 isn't the easiest thing to mod.

Which is why I've stuck to reading Marauder Shields and playing multiplayer.  Speaking of which, am I the only one who thinks mutiplayer is a good headcannon ending to refuse, the way people seem to like destroy/Citadel?

[Jadebaby]

Mehem would be much higher if console users could choose it.

[GreyLycanTrope]

zed888 wrote...

I'm not sure the numbers for MEHEM mean all those people just wanted a happy ending, despite the name. If I play to the end again, I'll install it first, but because it removes StarJar, not to make the ending happier. If anything I thought the EC epilogues were too optimistic as they were (except maybe control, with that creepy "I will lead an army none will dare oppose" stuff). And I'm not interested in Citadel.

All I wanted out of the ending was an option to kill the Reapers without killing the Geth, MEHEM has that.

[christrek1982]

well this is a bit of a shock destroy is the overall fav with 57% no shock there but MEHEM came second 17% yes a distant second but second non the less.

[mtmercydave09]

christrek1982 wrote...

well this is a bit of a shock destroy is the overall fav with 57% no shock there but MEHEM came second 17% yes a distant second but second non the less.

Which is pretty good to get 2nd place considering that it can't even be one of the choices for consoles.

[Asharad Hett]

I think it's amazing that MEHEM has scored as high as it did, because most players haven't installed it. I haven't installed it yet. Before I start another play through (in 2015) I will probably install MEHEM.

[SpamBot2000]

Hmmm... I'd be surprised if over 20% of ME3 players have the PC version...

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 06 avril 2013 - 04:13 .

[Big Bad]

For the record, I installed and endorse MEHEM not primarily for the semi-happy reunion at the end but because it removes the Catalyst and all its bull****e from the game, which I found to be far more problematic than the lack of a legit happy ending. 

[Auld Wulf]

So, the mass murder of slaves is a "good ending?"

Oh man. The 19th century would have loved you, OP. Mistreatment and murder of slaves was viewed as a good thing back then. To me, the absolute evidence that the Reapers are enslaved yet autonomous creatures, and the fact that the Reapers choose to be benevolent when they're freed from their slavery, makes it impossible for me to see the murder of slaves as a good thing.

I'm sorry, my sense of ethics just sees that as inhuman, in fact, it's peeing over the very meaning of being human, of having empathy and understanding. You know, the things we pride ourselves on, so that we're not monsters? That stuff? Yeah.

The Reapers can't be blamed for being enslaved to the Catalyst's programming. They don't deserve to die because they're controlled.

You're saying: If a person is being mind controlled, they should be shot in the head rather than freed from the control. Because slaves deserve to die.

That's disgusting and repugnant. That's not a happy ending.

Nevermind the death of the geth, EDI, and many more.

In fact, you'd have to be kind of ... mentally disturbed to see the death of slaves and innocent species as a thing of happiness.

[The Night Mammoth]

The Reapers aren't kindhearted and benevolent machines who've been enslaved, they're arrogant murderers who exercise their autonomy and great power to slaughter and torture billions of people without remorse.

Sure, the Catalyst 'controls' them, but unless the Catalyst is a sadistic killer filled with very organic hubris, they aren't mere mindless footsoldiers, if that weren't obvious enough from speaking with them.

[christrek1982]

I hated and still hate the ending MEHEM fixed it for me but with all the kickoff over the ending a lot of people forgot that ME3 was still a good game it had it's issues but for the most part it is a good game the DLC range from ok to fantastic but for me and maybe many others all of that got drowned out by the last then mins that left me feeling depressed an confused MEHEM helped me remember the good things and gave me somthing worth while to play for.

[christrek1982]

Auld Wulf wrote...

So, the mass murder of slaves is a "good ending?"

Oh man. The 19th century would have loved you, OP. Mistreatment and murder of slaves was viewed as a good thing back then. To me, the absolute evidence that the Reapers are enslaved yet autonomous creatures, and the fact that the Reapers choose to be benevolent when they're freed from their slavery, makes it impossible for me to see the murder of slaves as a good thing.

I'm sorry, my sense of ethics just sees that as inhuman, in fact, it's peeing over the very meaning of being human, of having empathy and understanding. You know, the things we pride ourselves on, so that we're not monsters? That stuff? Yeah.

The Reapers can't be blamed for being enslaved to the Catalyst's programming. They don't deserve to die because they're controlled.

You're saying: If a person is being mind controlled, they should be shot in the head rather than freed from the control. Because slaves deserve to die.

That's disgusting and repugnant. That's not a happy ending.

Nevermind the death of the geth, EDI, and many more.

In fact, you'd have to be kind of ... mentally disturbed to see the death of slaves and innocent species as a thing of happiness.

so what go for synthassis?. a forced tranfomasion pushed upon all regardless of what they whant is so mutch better or would you go with control? by your logic all you are doing is freeing the reaper only for them to be forced into obaying a new master dose it matter who that master used to be? a nice master is still a master and a slave is still a slave.