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[Ultrabobo]

WittingEight65 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Guys don't feed the troll.

Am I wrong?I can bet that more than 90% of the people that is STILL mad about the ending is because they couldn't get to see their Shepard with his/her LI standing together at the beach.

The beach scene would have been too much, at least for me, but i don't understand why is so wrong to want the chance of a happy ending.
In ME2 we could choose, even in detail how good or bad we wanted the ending, hell we could handpick who lived and who died. You do things absolutely right, you get the prize (cue Jacob's voice). You don't do everything absolutely right, people dies.

I understand people like the endings as they are, personally i've learned to accept them (or i'm too lazy to hold grudges too long), why the need of bashing who didn't like them?

[Nole]

Asharad Hett wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Guys don't feed the troll.

Am I wrong?I can bet that more than 90% of the people that is STILL mad about the ending is because they couldn't get to see their Shepard with his/her LI standing together at the beach.

Don't count me in that percentage.   Maybe you should start a poll.

No, thanks. I can see that people in this forum are still too sensitive.

[MegaSovereign]

None of the high-EMS endings are literal tragedies...

[mtmercydave09]

Ultrabobo wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Guys don't feed the troll.

Am I wrong?I can bet that more than 90% of the people that is STILL mad about the ending is because they couldn't get to see their Shepard with his/her LI standing together at the beach.

The beach scene would have been too much, at least for me, but i don't understand why is so wrong to want the chance of a happy ending.
In ME2 we could choose, even in detail how good or bad we wanted the ending, hell we could handpick who lived and who died. You do things absolutely right, you get the prize (cue Jacob's voice). You don't do everything absolutely right, people dies.

I understand people like the endings as they are, personally i've learned to accept them (or i'm too lazy to hold grudges too long), why the need of bashing who didn't like them?

Agreed, it could have been an option, seeing as how the ME trilogy is based on options.  It doesn't mean the happy ending has to be the only ending.  It's not like the happy ending couldn't have been mixed in with the current endings.  

For me I only would have needed to see Shep embracing their LI, and shaking hands with the crew and Hackett. That's all.  Do everything right and that's what you get.  That would have what, taken an extra minute or two of cutscenes?  

Not this whole scene with Shepard taking a couple breaths and the Normandy crash landing on the weirdo planet.

Thankfully there's MEHEM though.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 12:19 .

[Eterna]

This is spam, there is already a MEHEM thread in the fan works forum.

[mtmercydave09]

Eterna5 wrote...

This is spam, there is already a MEHEM thread in the fan works forum.

OP isn't solely about MEHEM, it's about the poll results, and says nothing about download links or anything.  It doesn't even have a link to the MEHEM post.

So no, it's not spam.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 12:22 .

[UniqueName001]

WittingEight65 wrote...

UniqueName001 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...
You and I have very different perceptions of what a game requires.

Yes, that appears to be true.

dreamgazer wrote...
Alas, the ending being "tragic" isn't the problem.

Well, it is a problem for me.  I didn't spend ~100 hours fighting to save the universe for it to end in tragedy.  There is plenty of that in the game prior to the ending.

To each their own, though, I guess.

You are just mad because you couldn't get to see your blue babies.

If it makes you feel better to make up an oversimplistic/incomplete version of peoples issues with the endings, and then attack that made-up argument instead of the very real and detailed issues, then do whatever you gotta do.  Just don't expect me to take you seriously.

Modifié par UniqueName001, 07 avril 2013 - 12:33 .

[Ultrabobo]

Life and times of Mass Effect, positivity, and the rise of MEHEM.

That was the title of the thread. It's kind of broad, but inevitably derailed on the endings. Now, rather than call it spam, i'd say it has been spammed. Big difference.

Would be nice if it returned to talk about the positives of the trilogy for a change

[Reorte]

Eterna5 wrote...

This is spam, there is already a MEHEM thread in the fan works forum.

Stop crying when people talk about something you don't want to talk about. Besides, that thread is largely about the technical aspects, requests, work in progress and so on.

[Nole]

UniqueName001 wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

UniqueName001 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...
You and I have very different perceptions of what a game requires.

Yes, that appears to be true.

dreamgazer wrote...
Alas, the ending being "tragic" isn't the problem.

Well, it is a problem for me.  I didn't spend ~100 hours fighting to save the universe for it to end in tragedy.  There is plenty of that in the game prior to the ending.

To each their own, though, I guess.

You are just mad because you couldn't get to see your blue babies.

If it makes you feel better to make up an oversimplistic/incomplete version of peoples issues with the endings, and then attack that made-up argument instead of the very real and detailed issues, then do whatever you gotta do.  Just don't expect me to take you seriously.

Then, please, explain to me why is the ending so bad that it ruined your life and now you can't do anything but come to this forum and QQ about how much you hate the ending.

[mtmercydave09]

WittingEight65 wrote...

UniqueName001 wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

UniqueName001 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...
You and I have very different perceptions of what a game requires.

Yes, that appears to be true.

dreamgazer wrote...
Alas, the ending being "tragic" isn't the problem.

Well, it is a problem for me.  I didn't spend ~100 hours fighting to save the universe for it to end in tragedy.  There is plenty of that in the game prior to the ending.

To each their own, though, I guess.

You are just mad because you couldn't get to see your blue babies.

If it makes you feel better to make up an oversimplistic/incomplete version of peoples issues with the endings, and then attack that made-up argument instead of the very real and detailed issues, then do whatever you gotta do.  Just don't expect me to take you seriously.

Then, please, explain to me why is the ending so bad that it ruined your life and now you can't do anything but come to this forum and QQ about how much you hate the ending.

Or you could always explain your incapability to ignore posts you don't like, instead of flaming people for going on forums that they have just as much of a right to post on like you do.

Yes there's people who don't like the ending.  It's an assumption to say that it "ruined their life".

Believe it or not there's people who actually just finished the endings recently after all the DLC, or just recently purchased the game.  It's not like everyone has been complaining for a year about the endings.

That being said and returning to the positives in the thread title, the journey through this trilogy was pretty dang good in my opinion.  Sure the ME trilogy had it's flaws, but what game doesn't have it's flaws?

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 12:43 .

[Reorte]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Then, please, explain to me why is the ending so bad that it ruined your life and now you can't do anything but come to this forum and QQ about how much you hate the ending.

If you can't discuss sensibly don't bother discussing at all. The fact that you're attacking people instead of their points speaks volumes.

[SolariUK]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Life tends to be like that though, in all honesty.

I'd have loved a happy ending but you have to put up with the tale the storyteller spins.

[Nole]

Ultrabobo wrote...

Life and times of Mass Effect, positivity, and the rise of MEHEM.

That was the title of the thread. It's kind of broad, but inevitably derailed on the endings. Now, rather than call it spam, i'd say it has been spammed. Big difference.

Would be nice if it returned to talk about the positives of the trilogy for a change

Thats the problem, dude. This whole trilogy is so awesome that when you go to play another game you can't stop thinking about how Mass effect is much better game than the one you are playing at that moment. Thats why I think we should all be gratefull to Bioware for giving us this experience, because, for me at least, I have never played a game you can connect so much with the protagonist and the rest of the characters, and the universe itself, like I did playing Mass Effect. But no, lets keep crying about the ending because it didnt have what I wanted to, because "It doesn't make any sense" (I still haven't read a real reason why the ending makes no sense, apart from Synthesis) and because reasons, lol.

Modifié par WittingEight65, 07 avril 2013 - 12:45 .

[mtmercydave09]

SolariUK wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Life tends to be like that though, in all honesty.

I'd have loved a happy ending but you have to put up with the tale the storyteller spins.

True, but as a paying customer, people do have a right to complain if they want to.  I can see it both ways.

I also would have loved a happy ending but i'm not totally mad about there not being one, I just end up skipping it, using MEHEM, or reading fanfiction.  Thankfully there's multiple outlets to get that "perfect happy ending" even if Bioware didn't do it.

[UniqueName001]

WittingEight65 wrote...
Then, please, explain to me why is the ending so bad that it ruined your life and now you can't do anything but come to this forum and QQ about how much you hate the ending.

Wow.

First, I was responding to people insulting those who didn't like the ending.  I didn't start this conversation.

Second, you are once again putting words in my mouth.

Third, are you really going to try to make the claim that me posting my opinions is any less valid than you posting yours?  Is your life so bad that you can do nothing but come to the forum and "QQ" about people "QQ"ing?

I had no intention of derailing this thread in this fashion, so unless you have an actual argument against the idea that a game should have a way to "win", or that there shouldn't be a positive outcome to a game, I am done with this conversation.  I support and appreciate the MEHEM for the reasons many others do - it eliminates unnecessary grimdark, a poorly conceived character, and choices that make no sense in the universe.

[mtmercydave09]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Ultrabobo wrote...

Life and times of Mass Effect, positivity, and the rise of MEHEM.

That was the title of the thread. It's kind of broad, but inevitably derailed on the endings. Now, rather than call it spam, i'd say it has been spammed. Big difference.

Would be nice if it returned to talk about the positives of the trilogy for a change

Thats the problem, dude. This whole trilogy is so awesome that when you go to play another game you can't stop thinking about how Mass effect is much better game than the one you are playing at that moment. Thats why I think we should all be gratefull to Bioware for giving us this experience, because, for me at least, I have never played a game you can connect so much with the protagonist and the rest of the characters, and the universe itself, like I did playing Mass Effect. But no, lets keep crying about the ending because it didnt have what I wanted to, because "It doesn't make any sense" (I still haven't read a real reason why the ending makes no sense, apart from Synthesis) and because reasons, lol.

Even though I was disappointed a bit with the ending, that's actually the feeling I had when I finished.

I seriously saw my other games on Steam and Origin and thought to myself, "I really don't feel like playing that game, because it doesn't compare to ME".

I don't think any other game has had me so emotionally invested in the protagonist, the story, and especially the characters.

The journey was freaking awesome.

That doesn't mean people can't complain about the endings if they want to.  Sure ME had a lot of positives but it did have its flaws too, just like any other game.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 12:49 .

[Uncle Jo]

SolariUK wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Life tends to be like that though, in all honesty.

I'd have loved a happy ending but you have to put up with the tale the storyteller spins.

'Cause Control and Synthesis aren't Disney/happy endings? The galaxy cooperating and enjoying the presence of their new buddies the Reapers, who, just before Shep decided to die by suicide jump or electric shock, killed, tortured, mutilated and terrorized countless lives, isn't an insult to the intelligence of any sane player?

Edit: Deleted "sane", it was a bit too much....

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 07 avril 2013 - 12:52 .

[Ultrabobo]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Ultrabobo wrote...

Life and times of Mass Effect, positivity, and the rise of MEHEM.

That was the title of the thread. It's kind of broad, but inevitably derailed on the endings. Now, rather than call it spam, i'd say it has been spammed. Big difference.

Would be nice if it returned to talk about the positives of the trilogy for a change

Thats the problem, dude. This whole trilogy is so awesome that when you go to play another game you can't stop thinking about how Mass effect is much better game than the one you are playing at that moment. Thats why I think we should all be gratefull to Bioware for giving us this experience, because, for me at least, I have never played a game you can connect so much with the protagonist and the rest of the characters, and the universe itself, like I did playing Mass Effect. But no, lets keep crying about the ending because it didnt have what I wanted to, because "It doesn't make any sense" (I still haven't read a real reason why the ending makes no sense, apart from Synthesis) and because reasons, lol.

Then really, seriously, please stop it.
Sometimes one has to be the bigger man. Keep answering to posts about the ending and it floods threads all over. Flood these posts with actual positives instead. Less arguing for sure

[mtmercydave09]

I'm not really surprised that the thread derailed into conversations about the ending, since you know the OP actually has poll results about the ending.

The thread wasn't meant to be about all the positives.  It was meant to discuss the poll results, positives, & endings.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 12:51 .

[Nole]

UniqueName001 wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...
Then, please, explain to me why is the ending so bad that it ruined your life and now you can't do anything but come to this forum and QQ about how much you hate the ending.

Wow.

First, I was responding to people insulting those who didn't like the ending.  I didn't start this conversation.

Second, you are once again putting words in my mouth.

Third, are you really going to try to make the claim that me posting my opinions is any less valid than you posting yours?  Is your life so bad that you can do nothing but come to the forum and "QQ" about people "QQ"ing?

I had no intention of derailing this thread in this fashion, so unless you have an actual argument against the idea that a game should have a way to "win", or that there shouldn't be a positive outcome to a game, I am done with this conversation.  I support and appreciate the MEHEM for the reasons many others do - it eliminates unnecessary grimdark, a poorly conceived character, and choices that make no sense in the universe.

My first post in this thread is about me saying why I do think Destroy is a "Happy Ending".

[Reorte]

SolariUK wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Life tends to be like that though, in all honesty.

I'd have loved a happy ending but you have to put up with the tale the storyteller spins.

No, life does not tend to be like that. Life has a right mixture of all sorts in it and a game is about the only fictional medium capable of encompassing all of that in the same story. Even then it shouldn't look like it's trying to be tragic simply for the sake of it (especially when it's at odds with the rest of the old-fashioned epic hero style of the rest).

[UniqueName001]

Yestare7 wrote...
- and what would be the purpose of this post? To promote happy endings, and positivity:happy::happy:

A worthy goal, and one that I will try (from this point forward ) to maintain.

I haven't been able to play though a new game with the MEHEM, but you can bet I will be using it if I do another playthrough.  I did finally play Citidel last night and I find that it did wonders for restoring my positive impression of the Mass Effect games.  Citidel is upbeat, positive, and has perfectly bittersweet ending conversation, which as far as I'm concerned is a much better send-off for the trilogy.

So thank you to BioWare for the Citidel DLC, and to Mr. Fob for the MEHEM.

[mtmercydave09]

Reorte wrote...

SolariUK wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Exactly. We're tired of grim and dark.

Life tends to be like that though, in all honesty.

I'd have loved a happy ending but you have to put up with the tale the storyteller spins.

No, life does not tend to be like that. Life has a right mixture of all sorts in it and a game is about the only fictional medium capable of encompassing all of that in the same story. Even then it shouldn't look like it's trying to be tragic simply for the sake of it (especially when it's at odds with the rest of the old-fashioned epic hero style of the rest).

Agreed, and the whole point of a game is to escape the hardships of life.  Just because life tends to be grim and dark, doesn't mean our games should be to.  Especially since the majority of ME3 before the ending is doom and gloom as it is.

Which is why I'm thankful for the Citadel DLC + MEHEM.  It gives the happy ending that I like my games having to counterbalance all that sucks in life.

Modifié par mtmercydave09, 07 avril 2013 - 01:01 .

[Seival]

mtmercydave09 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

This is spam, there is already a MEHEM thread in the fan works forum.

OP isn't solely about MEHEM, it's about the poll results, and says nothing about download links or anything.  It doesn't even have a link to the MEHEM post.

So no, it's not spam.

This is a thread about non-existent ending that some people written themselves.

Story section is about BioWare's official work.
Fan-fiction section is about fans' unofficial work.

This thread has to be moved to fan-fiction section, because it's a thread about a fan-fiction, not about something the story actually has.



Starting discussions about a fan-fiction in the story section of the forum can be considered as spam.