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#151
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spirosz wrote...

So you're mad at TRUTH.


I am not. I acknowledge this, but still it pops the bubble. D:

And yes, Jack in ME3 is HAWT. God. Much better than Miranda who only consists of ass and her Micheal Jackson face.

Still I prefer Tali. Just because...I dunno. I somehow do not consider Jack as a good LI due to her attitude. She is still cool, but....I don't know why exactly.

Modifié par GeneralMoskvin_2.0, 07 avril 2013 - 05:12 .


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Sometimes it seems the only way bioware could please certain people is to drop the romance content all together. At least no one would insult them for getting it wrong Lol.

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I can picture this, in the same way that the Grissom Student was dragged by cerberus troops, some poor chaplin getting dragged by Jack to Shepard's (I always choose Destroy) private medical room, and within twenty-four hours the doctors announce that Shepard will have to stay longer than they thought because while most of his injuries are healing well, the ones surrounding his frontal mid-section are going to take a while longer.

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Han Shot First wrote...

I think it was mostly because she had a shaved head in Mass Effect 2 and appeared somewhat flat chested.

Her competition was a character that looked like Yvonne Strahovsky only with more T&A, and a curvaceous Quarian in a catsuit (dem hips) whose face was a mystery. People who 'manced Tali simply head canoned something attractive underneath. It is an advantage in some respects.

As much as male gamers may claim they choose LIs for reasons that are not shallow, it is usually for shallow reasons. Or at least, shallow reasons play their part. Looks may not be the only factor, but they are a factor, and a big one.


And choosing for attractiveness is a negative because.....?

Like it or not, looks always come first for everybody.

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I like her ME3 development.

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Playing through the trilogy again now on ME3 on a JackMance for the second time, so far for MShep she's my absolute favourite LI, and looking forward to seeing her content in Citadel - i hear it's pretty good.

She's easily the most beautiful character in the game.

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Jack is far and away my favourite character in the whole trilogy. Her character arc (romanced or not) is great, Courtenay Taylor is an awesome voice actor and she is actually really likeable if you look past her "**** off" exterior

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Jack is a terrible person who has done terrible things. Out of all my Shepards, only one would even consider having her on the crew (if it weren't forced, that is). She was in that prison, in cryo stasis, for a reason. She is violent, impulsive, and reckless. Romance with her is the farthest thing from my mind.
I understand that terrible things were done to her, and I have sympathy for that. That does not excuse her crimes or her psychotic attitude. We are all responsible for how we treat others. Jack chose to be the animal that Cerberus wanted her to be, instead of rising above it. Getting involved with her is as likely to lead to a bullet in the back as it is to anything else (unless you metagame, of course).

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To answer your question, if you ran across her in real life would you really fall for her? I think not.

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Ahms wrote...

And choosing for attractiveness is a negative because.....?

Like it or not, looks always come first for everybody.


You can't based a relation just on how good the other person looks.

DecCylonus wrote...

Jack is a terrible person who has done terrible things. Out of all my Shepards, only one would even consider having her on the crew (if it weren't forced, that is). She was in that prison, in cryo stasis, for a reason. She is violent, impulsive, and reckless. Romance with her is the farthest thing from my mind.
I understand that terrible things were done to her, and I have sympathy for that. That does not excuse her crimes or her psychotic attitude. We are all responsible for how we treat others. Jack chose to be the animal that Cerberus wanted her to be, instead of rising above it. Getting involved with her is as likely to lead to a bullet in the back as it is to anything else (unless you metagame, of course).


Cerberus wanted her to be a weapon for them and she became their enemy. That's the exact opposite of what they wanted to achieve. As for her attitude, she was like that in ME2 only because she had never seen anything else. Ever since she was four she was put through years of abuse and torture by Cerberus. They conditioned her to feel good while killing by using drugs. Conditioning is not something you have much control over as it becomes a reflex after a while. After Cerberus, she only joined gangs because the only thing she knew was violence.

If you look at ME3 though, you can clearly see she's a lot more calm and a much better person. A terrible person wouldn't become a teacher that loves her student so much she would protect them with her own life. Jack is best described as a puppy who's been beaten for years only to one day fight back. Take that puppy and show it affection and love and you'll see that it will slowly break down the conditioning it's been through and it'll be a lot more gentle and less prone to attack.

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After the ice is broken, I find that Jack is just as lovable as Tali. Not to mention that Jack can have least have Shepard's offspring, (preferably sons).

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As long as Jack isn't in charge of the kids' haircuts...

Modifié par ThinkSharp, 16 avril 2013 - 11:20 .


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ThinkSharp wrote...

As long as Jack isn't in charge of the kids' haircuts...


What do you think she would give to Shepard's sons and daughters?

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Auld Wulf wrote...

In some ways, Jack is lady Garrus to me. Very similar kind of personality.


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Plus, unlike Miranda, she actually does have a reason to feel tormented. A childhood of abuse can screw you up, whereas all Miranda had claim to was how "perfect" she was (I dislike it when people toot their own horn about being perfect).


Did you actually pay attention when you spoke to Miranda? Did you speak to her at all?

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o Ventus wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

In some ways, Jack is lady Garrus to me. Very similar kind of personality.


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Plus, unlike Miranda, she actually does have a reason to feel tormented. A childhood of abuse can screw you up, whereas all Miranda had claim to was how "perfect" she was (I dislike it when people toot their own horn about being perfect).


Did you actually pay attention when you spoke to Miranda? Did you speak to her at all?


Miranda's treatment can barely be called an abuse when compared to Jack's. I've seen dozens of people who had it worse than Miranda except for the fact she was created without a mother.

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When I roll with a M!Shep, I go for the Jack Romance. I love it so much.

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Jack fits perfectly for my Shepard. Too bad her story was cut down to next to nothing. Citadel helped a lil bit though.

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Might have something to do with all the, you know, murders.

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ThinkSharp wrote...

As long as Jack isn't in charge of the kids' haircuts...


"It's your 5th birthday! Time for your first tattoo. Know what you want yet, kid?"

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Although it's understandable considering her past, I can't stand Jack's urge to kill and slaughter people for no reason. When she stopped that and learned to care for others in ME3, it changed a lot. Not my favorite character, but I like her.

Nothing ever comes close to Little Wing though.

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Han Shot First wrote...

ThinkSharp wrote...

As long as Jack isn't in charge of the kids' haircuts...


"It's your 5th birthday! Time for your first tattoo. Know what you want yet, kid?"

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Haha! 

Yeah... Jack definitely makes a better "fun & crazy aunt" type.

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Kuro.Ookami wrote...

Miranda's treatment can barely be called an abuse when compared to Jack's. I've seen dozens of people who had it worse than Miranda except for the fact she was created without a mother.


"When compared to Jack's"? Really? Compared to Jack, everybody had a relatively happier upbringing. Kind of a bad comment to make, especially when no one actually compared the two.

Regardless, people in here are acting as if Miranda didn't have a rough childhood, which is patently false.

Modifié par o Ventus, 17 avril 2013 - 04:32 .


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o Ventus wrote...

Kuro.Ookami wrote...

Miranda's treatment can barely be called an abuse when compared to Jack's. I've seen dozens of people who had it worse than Miranda except for the fact she was created without a mother.


"When compared to Jack's"? Really? Compared to Jack, everybody had a relatively happier upbringing. Kind of a bad comment to make, especially when no one actually compared the two.

Regardless, people in here are acting as if Miranda didn't have a rough childhood, which is patently false.


Miranda had a very cold, emotionally abusive childhood. And it was dangerous. Her father tried to kill her when she left. 

I don't blame her for taking Oriana away from that monster.

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I'd go out on a limb here and state that there isn't a single squadmember (of those who actually speak about it) who didn't have any traumatic events in their past to some extend. That's what adds the required dramatic depth.

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Argolas wrote...


Nothing ever comes close to Little Wing though.


You mean the Blue Rose of Illium, don't you? Considering you look a bit like charr.