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Which one do you think it is the most overrated infiltrator, and why?


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ALTBOULI

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TGI because there are better Infiltraitors for damage and survivability (Drell and GI are better for damage and AIU is a more surivavble character)

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AIU She really wasn't that good to begin with. Close second is the Salarian, but I always hated Salarians. (Except for Mordin and Kirrahe)

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I like to play infiltrators alot. I prefer the g.i with either harrier, hurricane, claymore wraith or back in the good days pirranha.
Also always will respect si with BW or javelin, the drell adept is ace specked for recon mine and equipped for BW, tgi Is harrier or ppr until proven otherwise qmj is good too with reegar etc, the human infiltrator good for nostalgia for shotgun claymore inffltrator, I just never got the aiu, repair matrix and snap freeze??? No way I want grenades or pm please

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Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant

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This topic is overrated!

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Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant


:o:blink:

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The only one that isn't overrated is the base human infiltrator.

Seriously, who talks about him/her anyways?

They are the true infiltrator: they do their job and no one sees it. MASTERS OF STEALTH.

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Rad_Rage wrote...

Any Infiltrator that someone thinks any bad player can use and beast and feast with is overrated.

LOL WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

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ALTBOULI wrote...

TGI because there are better Infiltraitors for damage and survivability (Drell and GI are better for damage and AIU is a more surivavble character)

AIU is not more survivable. Free shield boosts are better than free medigels.

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Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant

oh you..


anyways, AIU may seem overrated if ur off-host and the shotty TC boost isn't kicking in reliably, cause missing 20% multiplcative weapon dmg is pretty huge. Like many kits, if ya want the most outta her ya gotta host.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 07 avril 2013 - 12:09 .


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Scam_poo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

SI.
Ugly, relies on a stagger power to land headshots and is out classed in every way by the GI.


Da****? Nothing "relies on a stagger power to land headshots". I could spec zero points into PM and ED and still get headshots with him. I think you might just need to learn how to play this game, Sir. If you have bad aim, every character you play with will rely on a stagger power to land headshots.
(For the record, I don't use ED to line up headshots, but to refill my shields if necessary.)

SI is a great character. He has better survivability than the GI, can refill his shields with ED, and Hunter Mode doesn't really give the GI an edge now that we have the Geth Scanner. Accuracy boost is for console scrubs and rate of fire is irrelevant on a lot of guns.

People, listen to yourselves in this thread. You're indoctrinated. Everyone who says SI is overrated should seriously reconsider.


I love the SI, too.

As for the one I find overrated?  AIU is the only one who really stands out to me.

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TGI+harrier. That ammo box camping.

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Raw damage isn't the whole picture of a kit.

AIU is the best kit in the game because she has elite speed, survivability, good crowd control, and she can do 6000 damage with a single Claymore shot (let's not even talk about the Reegar). That's it. It's more than enough. [edit: for comparison the Human Soldier does about 7000 damage total with both shots of his two shot Claymore]

Back before the nerf she was completely ridiculous. Now she's just somewhat ridiculous. Nothing else combines that level of mobility, tankiness, and DPS.

nothing overrated about it

Modifié par lightswitch, 07 avril 2013 - 12:56 .


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lightswitch wrote...

Raw damage isn't the whole picture of a kit.

AIU is the best kit in the game because she has elite speed, survivability, good crowd control, and she can do 6000 damage with a single Claymore shot (let's not even talk about the Reegar). That's it. It's more than enough. [edit: for comparison the Human Soldier does about 7000 damage total with both shots of his two shot Claymore]

Back before the nerf she was completely ridiculous. Now she's just somewhat ridiculous. Nothing else combines that level of mobility, tankiness, and DPS.

nothing overrated about it


You're wrong :)

She is as overrated as Notre Dame Football. She isn't tanky in the same way as the TGI. Also nice comparison with the Human Solidier which has AR which gives a bonus to weapons for a duration and a claymore double shot is basically the equivalent of a single shot in game due to speed at which it can be done.

The Shotgun evo is bugged to all hell anyways. She is limited to shotguns to get full damage (granted great guns) She isn't better than the TGI and GI even pre-nerf.

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Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant


Why?

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Kalas Magnus

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gi

every time i use him he dies in like 2 shots. total scrub.

dunno why everyone thinks he is godly

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RedJohn wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant


Why?



Why don't you make a thread about? I think we need to get to the bottom of this. :D

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Bechter wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant


Why?



Why don't you make a thread about? I think we need to get to the bottom of this. :D


I don't want people there asking me for my opinion gawd :pinched:

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Ramsutin wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...


People, listen to yourselves in this thread. You're indoctrinated. Everyone who says SI is overrated should seriously reconsider.


Everything SI does GI can do better.

Except survive.

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ThatOddGuy wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

SI.
Ugly, relies on a stagger power to land headshots and is out classed in every way by the GI.


[...]


Having said that, ED doesn't make Headshots possible, but it makes them a hell of a lot faster. Less time wasted to line up headshot = more time for DPS, and quicker cloak recharge.

And there's all the survival stuff you said. SI is just as hard to kill as TGI and EDI if you know what you're doing, and Prox Mine > Overload (when combined with ED) and Prox Mine > Snap Freeze since EDI can't detonate.

Therefore, SI > TGI and AIU because it has "lolucantkillme" plus Prox Mine.
However, they are hard to compare if you look at it this way:
SI - Sniper
TGI - Assault Rifle
EDI - Shotgun

Hunter Mode vs. Energy Drain is a good debate.

Energy Drain also strips shields, so LOL@YOU shieldgate.

[...]


I would agree with you on those points. Unfortunately, I do not use the SI as a sniper. I find myself in the position where I don't need ED for sniping, GI has the sniper points in cloak for me. The small HM damage boost comes in handy.
SI is my jack-of-all-trades kinda guy. I put any gun on him and he makes it shine. Cloak and PM, ED for shield recharge.

Still, SI is a neat sniper character, no doubt about that.

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Scam_poo

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RedJohn wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Geth Infiltrator

SI + Geth Scanner makes him totally redundant


Why?



What do you mean, 'why'? Isn't it rather obvious?

I don't have the passive numbers, but they should be pretty similar for those two classes. Aside from that, they both have cloak and PM, the godly combo, holy synergize.
GI has HM, which has advantages, but also disadvantages. SI has ED, which might not be as useful in the long run, but doesn't have any drawbacks and adds neat survivability in case the player knows what he is doing.


Granted, I wouldn't say it makes the GI "totally redundant", but a SI with Geth Scanner is almost the same as the GI, with a little less damage output and more survivability.

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Bechter wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Raw damage isn't the whole picture of a kit.

AIU is the best kit in the game because she has elite speed, survivability, good crowd control, and she can do 6000 damage with a single Claymore shot (let's not even talk about the Reegar). That's it. It's more than enough. [edit: for comparison the Human Soldier does about 7000 damage total with both shots of his two shot Claymore]

Back before the nerf she was completely ridiculous. Now she's just somewhat ridiculous. Nothing else combines that level of mobility, tankiness, and DPS.

nothing overrated about it


You're wrong :)

She is as overrated as Notre Dame Football. She isn't tanky in the same way as the TGI. Also nice comparison with the Human Solidier which has AR which gives a bonus to weapons for a duration and a claymore double shot is basically the equivalent of a single shot in game due to speed at which it can be done.

The Shotgun evo is bugged to all hell anyways. She is limited to shotguns to get full damage (granted great guns) She isn't better than the TGI and GI even pre-nerf.


No...you're wrong. :innocent:

a) "bugged to all hell"

No. It works fine on-host, and off host all you have to do is shoot first, then cast SF - which by the way can detonate explosions. Don't even try 'the explosion is centered on her' because if you're not right in the enemies face with her in the first place I don't know what you're doing.

B) Not being as tanky as the possibly the tankiest kit in the game doesn't change the fact she has a 30% DR and can regen shields under cloak - not to mention RM supposedly restores shield gate, which based on my experience is true. But the TGI can't keep up with her speed, not even close. [edit] Also, let's not ignore how much speed increases survivability. Drell with all their squishiness survive on speed alone...she has Drellspeed plus DR _and_ shield regen.

If you actually do the math a TGI does approximately 10,000+ damage in the 2.5 of TC weapon damage boost. With a Piranha the AIU can do 13,000+.

If you can't understand the innate value of a kit that is incredibly strong in a DPS, speed, and survivability I don't know what to say to you. No other kit combines that kind of ability into one platform.

Modifié par lightswitch, 07 avril 2013 - 02:27 .


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I honestly think Turian Soldier is the best sniper, Conc> lol enemy doing rolling dodge > headshot

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To me it's between the AIU and the GI. Although the GI is better than the AIU in an expert's hands, the GI is still more overrated even if you go by this topic. It's obvious that the AIU isn't really that highly rated by the majority of people so I can't give it to her. The GI's good, really he is. However, he's not as good as most people think.

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Oh, and also, by the time the Human Soldier gets off the third Claymore shot (one unboosted, two boosted) he'll have done around 11,000 damage, but the AIU will have already gotten off two shots and done around 12000 damage.

No one is going to beat her with a Claymore. That fact alone would be enough to make her a contender for best kit in the game...