so, Cortez said he was assigned to the Normandy because he had been retrofitting the M-44 Hammerhead, and he was an experienced pilot with both the M-44 Hammerhead, and the UT-47 Kodiak.
However, from what I remember in ME2, the Hammerhead was of Cerberus design, an experimental design.
So, how can a long serving Alliance fighter Pilot, have experience flying a one of a kind expiremental craft designed by a Terrorist Group?
Not that it matters, since the thing was destroyed, but still, its weird...
Steve Cortez, and the M-44 Hammerhead
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Posté 06 avril 2013 - 11:30
Samtheman63
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i thought the hammerhead was alliance myself, acting as the new mako
but now you've confused me, did they say that in me2? i cant remember
but now you've confused me, did they say that in me2? i cant remember
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Posté 06 avril 2013 - 11:31
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it was heavily implied in the Firewalker DLC from what I rememberSamtheman63 wrote...
i thought the hammerhead was alliance myself, acting as the new mako
but now you've confused me, did they say that in me2? i cant remember
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Posté 06 avril 2013 - 11:31
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Doesn't say anything about being Cerberus in the codex...nor about being new or experimental.
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Posté 06 avril 2013 - 11:33
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no, but i believe it was heavily implied in the e-mail you got at the beginning of FirewalkerDavid7204 wrote...
Doesn't say anything about being Cerberus in the codex...nor about being new or experimental.
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Posté 06 avril 2013 - 11:39
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Hmm. Here's the email.
From: Project Firewalker
Commander,
The MSV Rosalie, a survey ship with Cerberus connections, has gone missing. The survey team was field-testing a new prototype: the Hammerhead planet-side exploration rover. In addition, scientists Dr. Manuel Cayce and Dr. Robert O'Loy are aboard the MSV Rosalie and conducting research for us. We need you to find the ship, her survey
team, and the doctors.
The MSV Rosalie was last seen near planet Zeona (Elysta, Ismar Frontier).
So it does look like a new vehicle, but nothing about Cerberus. Cortez doesn't actually say he ever flew one, does he?
From: Project Firewalker
Commander,
The MSV Rosalie, a survey ship with Cerberus connections, has gone missing. The survey team was field-testing a new prototype: the Hammerhead planet-side exploration rover. In addition, scientists Dr. Manuel Cayce and Dr. Robert O'Loy are aboard the MSV Rosalie and conducting research for us. We need you to find the ship, her survey
team, and the doctors.
The MSV Rosalie was last seen near planet Zeona (Elysta, Ismar Frontier).
So it does look like a new vehicle, but nothing about Cerberus. Cortez doesn't actually say he ever flew one, does he?
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 01:04
arial
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okay, according to the wki's page on Cerberus, "Project Firewalker", was created to Field test the Hammerhead.
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Cerberus
(scroll down to "Project Firewalker")
So the firewalker does seem to be of cerberus design
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Cerberus
(scroll down to "Project Firewalker")
So the firewalker does seem to be of cerberus design
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 01:06
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It's because Cerberus IS yoomanity.
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 01:15
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I thought it meant that Cortez was participating in refitting the Cerberus design to be compatible with Alliance standards.
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 01:17
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That's not what it says about Firewalker. It says that they were field testing it, but that does not mean that they were created to do so. They are clearly a "survey" group, which as a Cerberus unit likely means they were charged with finding artifacts...
They could also be field testing it without being the ones that specifically designed or built the vehicle. If it was designed as a successor to the Mako to meet some sort of Alliance specification, Cerberus could have acquired an example to see if it would be of use to them, hence the field tests.
If you want an out of universe explanation, it very well could have been intended to be a Cerberus IFV, but it was not clearly explained to be such in ME2, and ME3 clearly retcons it if that was the case.
They could also be field testing it without being the ones that specifically designed or built the vehicle. If it was designed as a successor to the Mako to meet some sort of Alliance specification, Cerberus could have acquired an example to see if it would be of use to them, hence the field tests.
If you want an out of universe explanation, it very well could have been intended to be a Cerberus IFV, but it was not clearly explained to be such in ME2, and ME3 clearly retcons it if that was the case.
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 01:25
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Cortez was an experienced pilot with the F-61 Trident, an Alliance fighter, not the Hammerhead.
His assignment to the Normandy had nothing to do with the Hammerhead, which was shipped off to an Alliance lab after the Normandy landed on Earth. Cortez was on the Normandy to oversee the retrofit of the Normandy's cargo bay.
His assignment to the Normandy had nothing to do with the Hammerhead, which was shipped off to an Alliance lab after the Normandy landed on Earth. Cortez was on the Normandy to oversee the retrofit of the Normandy's cargo bay.
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 02:23
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however, if Cortez hadn't piloted one before, why does he make it sound like he has when arguing with James?
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 02:24
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I don't think Steve would as vehemently defend the Hammerhead relative to the Mako if he didn't pilot it for a decent amount of time. Also don't think he would defend Cerberus tech as much. But who knows.
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Posté 15 avril 2013 - 04:13
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Just because the Rosalie wasn't an Alliance ship doesn't mean they knew nothing of the Hammerhead. We don't know where they got it from or why they were the ones testing it. It could even be that Cayce and O'loy were under contract to the Alliance, and Cerberus merely intercepted their distress signals (rerouting them to Normandy.)
