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[Lparsons7641]

I would have liked to fight through the Citadel against the reapers/Cerberus (I headcanon that their is fighting on their between the reapers and C-Sec/the inhabitants/gangs)

Then at the end have Javik, or whatever a Prothean squadmember be "the catalyst"

I think it would have been great. Full circle from the beacon to the end

[David7204]

It's not about being 'bittersweet,' it's about validating the themes of the series! There are a hundred different problems with writing an ending, a hundred different challenges that need to be overcome, a hundred different requirements that need to be fulfilled. And all of them need to work together - simultaneously, elegantly, sublimely. If that doesn't happen, then I'm not satisfied. And I'm not satisfied with this.

[thedancingdruid]

@David7204 Fair enough, thanks.

[reddeath4242]

Where is the airlock?

[Obadiah]

@dafingirl
I like it

[thedancingdruid]

@reddeath4242 Right next to File 13?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I never trusted TIM right from the start of ME2. What reason would I have to trust him at the end of ME3?

And regarding your requirements for an ending, David, the current EC ending fulfills none of them if I apply them with my own standards.

[David7204]

It doesn't fulfill all of them, but it does fulfill some. It's practically impossible not to fulfill some, even if it's just by accident.

And it's better than this. This is really just the Crucible going off and having that be the end of it.

[thedancingdruid]

@David7204 And how exactly does the game as it stands validate those themes?

I'm sorry I didn't satisfy all your "Bens" of requirements but I believe my scenario does indeed validate the themes presented throughout the trilogy: cooperation, individuality, peace and survival, not to mention the destruction of the Reapers.

My Shepard's goal has not changed. United a galaxy, destroy the Reapers.

[thedancingdruid]

@David7204 The MacGuffin is already present in the story. I'd rather have it fire and that be the end of it than trying to figure out why the energy can't distinguish between the Geth, EDI and the Reapers.

[David7204]

Except the united galaxy didn't do a damn thing, did it? The Crucible did all the work. Javik did all the work. The united galaxy did nothing to solve the problem, did it? That's a problem.

Having a character who, as I said, gleefully advocates genocide save the galaxy and have the story just forget about does not validate cooperation at all. It does not validate peace and survival and all. What it validates is that the guy who says "the krogan need to die" and "the geth need to die" is ultimately the second-best character of the entire series!

Modifié par David7204, 07 avril 2013 - 06:42 .

[thedancingdruid]

@David7204 The "united galaxy" is the one that came through the relay in the Sol system. The "united galaxy" built the crucible, hence solving the problem of how to defeat the Reapers.

Outside of Wrex and Eve, possibly Grunt, although his complete lack of remorse on setting the C-Sec's car on fire and defacing public property gives me pause, I don't trust the Krogran.

As far as the Geth, I've thoroughly read the debate on this and still have trouble believing they will be a completely peaceful nation in the future.

All of that in Javik's eyes given his perception of lesser races and his life spent in wartime is understandable.

While I definitely do not agree with his sentiment regarding most of what's presented in game, I do wholeheartedly agree with him on destroying the Reapers.

I will let his sacrifice redeem his people and I will honor that sacrifice by ensuring the future of the galaxy.

[thedancingdruid]

@alleyd Well said.

[N7-RedFox]

You know what's funny? In Bioware's early plans, Javik was supposed to be the Catalyst - the trigger who would activate the Crucible. But Bioware decided to take out a Shep vs TIM boss fight and replace Javik's role with Star Brat and his artsy fartsy explanations.

WTF WERE YOU THINKING BIOWARE?!!

[thedancingdruid]

@N7-RedFox Good question, this idea stems from that leaked script, however, I tried working it within the confines of the final product w/o it.

[Pcmag1]

Nice, I was contemplating on how to implement dragon age ending into ME3. (If you underwent dark ritual, you didnt have to die) but I coldnt really put it together. With Javik you nailed it. I wold like it as an option.

[thedancingdruid]

@Pcmag1 Nice, thanks, I didn't think of it that way. (DA Spoilers)






Let's hope Alistair didn't make a huge mistake by killing off Morrigan's sister.

Modifié par dafangirl, 07 avril 2013 - 07:24 .

[Pcmag1]

dafangirl wrote...

@Pcmag1 Nice, thanks, I didn't think of it that way. (DA Spoilers)






Let's hope Alistair didn't make a huge mistake by killing off Morrigan's sister.

Sister? I must have missed that, are you sure something like that happend?

[thedancingdruid]

@Pcmag1 It's from the comic series written by Gaider published by Dark Horse. I highly recommend them.

The first series The Silent Grove had 6 issues, Those Who Speak had 3 issues and the last series, Until We Sleep has 3, the 1st of which came out 3/27.

OT: As in ME3 a DA:O type of ending where Shepard didn't have to sacrifice him/herself would have been much appreciated. In DA:O the sacrifice of the Warden was worthy, however, it was only one of the ways it turned out w/o the Dark Ritual of destroying the Archdemon. In ME3 Shepard's sacrifice to destroy the Reapers should not have come down to shooting a tube, alone on the heels of Anderson's death. It didn't seem to serve a purpose; or its purpose wasn't clear enough, to me.

Modifié par dafangirl, 07 avril 2013 - 07:41 .

[Pcmag1]

I am not much of a comics person, but thanks for tip. Only problem with yours idea is, I am affraid, the fact that Javic's role has been too diminished being DLC character. While Morigan was one of the main characters of DA:O. But as I said it very neat.

[thedancingdruid]

@Pcmag1 I am not either, just want to have the entire picture of the DA universe while anxiously awaiting DA:I, as I do with ME, so generally I purchase all of the outside media, though the 4th ME novel sits on my self unread after seeing threads about it on BSN.

And you're right, Javik's role was severely hampered by release, however, I think the very fact that he's Prothean, leaving the Crucible in place as a Prothean device gives credence to the ending proposed as at least believable given the confines of the story presented.

[David7204]

Javik never says a thing indicating he's changed his mind one bit. In fact, even after Shepard cures the genophage and unites the geth and quarians, he still insists that it would have been better to kill them off. He doesn't see the Prothean empire as an abomination at all, he still touts it.