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Hoping dragons age 3 takes more from witcher 2 than skyrim


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Dendio1

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Witcher 2 had this great system where different choices led you to a completely different questing experience. Different companions, hubs and story quests. They were so different that the player must play the game twice to see the second half and fully understand the plot.

I would love dragons age 3 to take ideas like this and more from witcher 2 . Add in new game plus incentives, dont be afraid to toe the line on mature content, and keep things story focused. I always felt the elder scrolls games gave the player too much freedom. Its way to easy to wander around for days before you find real purpose. Skyrim gives more direction than oblivion...and thats a good thing. Bioware just becareful, skyrim may have been huge, but it sacrificed the quality of the characters within the universe.

Aside from that...no more repeat dungeon maps, more detail to environments, more focus on characters their arcs and their romance. Bring some of the origins magic back...the mysterious music and the sense of adventure.

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Knight of Dane

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Ugh, this discussion again?

Bye

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Sir George Parr

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Hope DA3 does its own thing and takes nothing from either.

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Why not have DA, TW, and TeS all separate?

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TW is more relatable to DA than TES, that's true.  But there are things in Skyrim that are good to look into like world interaction and the item system, being able to read books is great no matter how small they are.

Its way to easy to wander around for days before you find real purpose.


I don't agree with you on that, exploration is optional. You can even just do the main quest only. Besides even TW3 is following on the footsteps of Skyrim in some aspects like being open world so... Skyrim is my favourite game and TW2 comes second, but I agree that they should be looking into TW2 instead.

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I hope the Witcher 3 takes less from the Witcher 2 in the same way the Witcher 2 took less from the Witcher 1 so maybe I can actually play it.

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Knight of Dane

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Maverick827 wrote...

I hope the Witcher 3 takes less from the Witcher 2 in the same way the Witcher 2 took less from the Witcher 1 so maybe I can actually play it.

I'd have loved the Witcher with CC :blush:

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Here's hoping that DA3 takes more from BG2 than TES

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This was discussed in another thread and the reason given (which appears to be the primary one) is because Skyrim was a huge success. It sold over 10 million copies.

I don't think there's much to take from Skyrim that will work in a game like Dragon Age and I think they're going about it all wrong. Skyrim sold a lot because Bethesda made the game they themselves wanted to play and didn't focus test everything, and more importantly, they recognize that you can't please everyone. BioWare, please take note: you can't make everyone want to play your game no matter what you add or take away. Accept it.

Regardless of what they do, I doubt DA3 will reach 10 million copies sold. It's just not going to happen and I don't think EA should expect it to do that well.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 07 avril 2013 - 06:25 .


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Noctis Augustus

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Well, no one beats TW2 when it comes to choice and consequences that's for certain.

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I dislike the notion that BioWare is incapable of making their own game and thus they have to copy either the Witcher or Skyrim (and yes, I am aware of the who whole "aggressively looking at Skyrim" thing). What Dragon Age 3 should be, in my opinion, is a mix of the very best things from the first two games.

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Nothing from either sounds good. Yes I've played both neither come close to DA1 or any of the ME titles so no.

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I`d like DA:I to do something simmilar when it comes to choices and such, as The Walking Dead did it.

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Funny enough, when Origins first came out I remember a lot of people were pointing out the parallels between it and The Witcher. Stuff like the elves being an oppressed minority, the settings being very conventional European fantasy settings with a lot more "grimdark" thrown in, the similarities between the Grey Wardens and the Witchers, that sort of thing. Not to mention that both games did branching dialogue and choices that lead to branching storylines really well.

So in a way Dragon Age Origins may have already taken a bit from The Witcher, or at least the two games drew from the same well.

Of course I've got to admit that though I think it's a great game I've never gotten around to beating The Witcher or touched the second game. It's a great game and I maybe played halfway through it but I just couldn't get into playing the Generic-Mc-Grim-Man-Hero character you're forced to play. RPGs that let you create your own character have really spoiled me and I have a hard time getting into some of the (really good,) European made RPG series' like Gothic where the always seem to force you to play a super generic white guy.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 07 avril 2013 - 06:42 .


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Knight of Dane wrote...

Bye

No, you don't. I don't remember ever giving you permission to leave. 

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Knight of Dane

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Darth Death wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Bye

No, you don't. I don't remember ever giving you permission to leave. 

Ain't no one's got time fo dat.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 07 avril 2013 - 07:51 .


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Darth Death

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Knight of Dane wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Bye

No, you don't. I don't remember ever giving you permission to leave. 

Ain't no one's got time fo dat.

Sure we do, considering how many topics recycle themselves. Also you took the time to reply back to me, so sure, we do have the time.=]

At any rate in regards to the topic, as much as I like the Witcher I don't want DA3 to reminisce profound aspects from it. Let DA be DA. I rather have BioWare come up with innovative ideas than just taking what works from another game.   

Modifié par Darth Death, 07 avril 2013 - 08:04 .


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Knight of Dane

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Darth Death wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Bye

No, you don't. I don't remember ever giving you permission to leave. 

Ain't no one's got time fo dat.

Sure we do, considering how many topics recycle themselves. Also you took the time to reply back to me, so sure, we do have the time.=]

At any rate in regards to the topic, as much as I like the Witcher I don't want DA3 to reminisce profound aspects from it. Let DA be DA. I rather have BioWare come up with innovative ideas than just taking what works from another game.   

I meant more that no one's got time to ask permission mate :)

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Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like DA:I to do something simmilar when it comes to choices and such, as The Walking Dead did it.


Like ME 3, then?... "You choice" in The Walking Dead no truly matter in the end, you always get the same final, and the same consequences.

Nope, I prefer something original and of themselves.

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Julian Fuentes wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like DA:I to do something simmilar when it comes to choices and such, as The Walking Dead did it.


Like ME 3, then?... "You choice" in The Walking Dead no truly matter in the end, you always get the same final, and the same consequences.

Nope, I prefer something original and of themselves.


True. But your choices did change how the middle chapters turned out. Alot of them severely bit me in the ass too. And most of them had some serious dilemmas.

On a side note: Nobody said your choices would affect the ending of TWD. They did say that for ME3 though. All the choices in previous games would matter and affect the ending (all 16 different ending, aparantly).

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A better comparison might be Heavy Rain. shrugs. Multiple endings . I think that is what we want.

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I really hope DA3 takes from DAO and from neither one of these.

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I think the developers of the Bioware games are afraid of upsetting some people because they might not be able to get every single character on one play through so they make all companions available to everyone.

I would also prefer that you had different lines that led you to group up with certain companions and not others, but it doesn't seem like the Bioware devs do brainstorming that way.

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I hope DA:I takes more from DA:O than they do from Witcher 2. Cause you know, games shouldn't try to imitate other games.

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Ew. No thanks.