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[Xilizhra]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The end result would be someone using the Reapers to force compliance.

No one should have that kind of power.

Ideally, no. But the ending is not an ideal situation in any sense.

[Ticonderoga117]

MetioricTest wrote...

Ending: Destroy.

Reasons for the choice:

I have to pick 1 of 4 crappy choices. Reject while cool is ultimately a joke ending, Synthesis makes no sense and Control just seems contrary everything in the entire game.

So It's kinda the best of a bad world.

Pretty much this. I mean c'mon, the Reapers and the Catalyst are pure stupid evil. There is no benefit to keep either around. They HAVE to go.

[mango smoothie]

Destroy

1.It fits the story of my canon Shepard the most.

2. It's less of a risk than the other endings.

3. It puts the final nail in the coffin to galactic government, and allows for one of my Shepard's other goals, human independence from a galactic government.

4. The Geth didn't matter as they were destroyed at rannoch.

5. Any studying of Reaper technology will be easier with them disabled.

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

I chose Destory because it makes the most sense out of the endings and it doesn't give me a headache. Plus, you know, Shepard gets to live, which, you know, some of us kinda hoped would be an option.

[Iakus]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Refund guy trying to return something else? Well you see where this is going.

Gee thanks.  Now I have the image of a husk wearing a C-Sec uniform stuck in my head. 

[Xilizhra]

iakus wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Refund guy trying to return something else? Well you see where this is going.

Gee thanks.  Now I have the image of a husk wearing a C-Sec uniform stuck in my head. 

Don't worry, I'm using Collectors for that. The husks and other such troops are retired until such time as they become necessary for any large-scale ground conflicts.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

iakus wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Refund guy trying to return something else? Well you see where this is going.

Gee thanks.  Now I have the image of a husk wearing a C-Sec uniform stuck in my head. 

Harbinger: Do you know why we stopped you?

Turian: Uhm no.

Harbinger: You did not stop properly at the stop sign. Husk conversion is the stated punishment for such a terrible crime.

Turian: What the F***?!

Harbinger: Have a happy day cycle.

[Wolfva2]

People complaining about threads like this popping up periodically? Please stop. I know you believe that every single person in the universe is not just like you...but IS you, and thus has all your knowledge and experience. But the truth is...you're wrong. We're all individuals, and not everyone has seen, or participated in, those other threads. I didn't because I tend not to join threads with multiple pages. So someone revisits this topic, and now I have a chance to weigh in before it all gets bogged down in the ultra negativity. (looks at preceeding responces). <sigh> To late.... If you don't like the topic, DO NOT CLICK IT. Simple as that.

I picked Destroy. It seemed, and still seems, the most logical to me. I set out to destroy the reapers; that was my mission. Synthesis frankly scares the hell out of me. That we'd have the ability to strip people of their free will...as flawed as it is...to join with 'perfect' machines? All I could think of was the scene in 'A wrinkle in time' of all the perfect boys standing in front of their perfect houses bouncing their perfect balls perfectly against the cement of their perfect driveways in cadence with one another...no way am I letting the etchthroi win. Control? I don't want to be a god. More to the point, I don't want to be a god that has joined up with a computer thus destroying the 'me' that is, and creating some weird anagram which may be more in line with what the Leviathan's computer (no, I'm not calling it that petulant childish whiney name of 'star child'. It's a damned computer program. Not a god.) What if the new Shepputer decides the original programming was right? The cycle continues.

Refuse? I accidentally did that actually. Went back to a pre-save because I didn't realize it was an option and I didn't want to go that route. I can understand not wanting to make a decision, especially considering the decisions we had. BUT: They WERE the decisions we had. Unfortunately a race of intelligent squidroaches that thought they were gods screwed up and created a computer program to solve a problem with unclear parameters. GIGO rules apply here. So, they input the garbage, and millenia later it's poor Shepard who's stuck with the Garbage that came out. A program can only do what it's programmed to do; the Catalyst was a VI after all, not an AI. So, untold quadrillions of sentient beings over who knows how many millions of years are killed because of poor programming skills. Oh well. I guess Shep COULD have pulled out a Mac laptop and re-written the catalyst code on the fly, but unfortunately he isn't Jeff Goldblum ((Independance Day joke) so he was stuck with the choices he had.

And I'm ok with that. It's the rule of narative; we want to experience stories of unusual people in trying times. No one wants to play the game of Bob Shepard, IBM Accountant. Sure, there are many different directions Bioware could have gone. But you know what? Had they gone in ANY of those other directions, including your most beloved and cherished possible direction that you think would have rendered a game so perfect all other gaming companies would close up shop and commit suicide knowing full well they could never create something as beautiful, had they gone in that direction? We would STILL be here, in the forums, arguing about it. There would STILL be people saying the ending was horrible and yadda yadda yadda.

[noobcannon]

it has pretty much been established in mass effect 1, 2, and 3 that there is no controlling the reapers or allying with them, only indoctrination, brainwashing, slavery, etc. nothing the "catalyst" says convinces me otherwise. the breath scene supports this, and always has.

[AlanC9]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

It's been my goal for the entire series

Who's the "I" here, Shepard or Grand Admiral Cheesecake? I presume the latter, but I'm not certain. Some folks in this thread have said the same thing but seem to mean Shepard.

As for me, Control, to the extent I have a favored ending. It gets the job done without any more damage to the galaxy than is necessary.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 avril 2013 - 06:53 .

[AlanC9]

noobcannon wrote...

it has pretty much been established in mass effect 1, 2, and 3 that there is no controlling the reapers or allying with them, only indoctrination, brainwashing, slavery, etc. nothing the "catalyst" says convinces me otherwise. the breath scene supports this, and always has.

How does a scene that can't happen in the other endings support an interpretation of those endings?

[teh DRUMPf!!]

AlanC9 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

it has pretty much been established in mass effect 1, 2, and 3 that there is no controlling the reapers or allying with them, only indoctrination, brainwashing, slavery, etc. nothing the "catalyst" says convinces me otherwise. the breath scene supports this, and always has.

How does a scene that can't happen in the other endings support an interpretation of those endings?

A scene that anyone without online gaming cannot get, no less (no multiplayer, no EMS patch...).

[Argolas]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

it has pretty much been established in mass effect 1, 2, and 3 that there is no controlling the reapers or allying with them, only indoctrination, brainwashing, slavery, etc. nothing the "catalyst" says convinces me otherwise. the breath scene supports this, and always has.

How does a scene that can't happen in the other endings support an interpretation of those endings?

A scene that anyone without online gaming cannot get, no less (no multiplayer, no EMS patch...).

Can you even install ME3 offline?

[InvincibleHero]

Always destroy. It makes the most sense and was the aim for the entire series to defeat the reapers. Nothing presented in ME 3 could convince me to take another way.

[Ieldra]

Cyrus Shepard chose Synthesis for the fast-tracked advancement of galactic civilization and for keeping the legacy of past cycles alive.

Maya Shepard chose Control to give galactic civilization a period of stability it needs after the end of the cycle and because it leaves both other options open for the future.

Amir Shepard chose Destroy to give galactic civilization a new beginning unburdened by the ballast of the past.

[wright1978]

My Shep chose destroy because he wants to free the galaxy from the reapers so they can develop as they wish.

[RogueBot]

I picked Destroy because...

I was perturbed by Shepard's lack of will to ask the most basic of questions or put up the most half-hearted of debates against that ghost that came out of nowhere. I also knew I couldn't blame Shepard though, as everything he does is at the whim of writers who had apparently mailed in the dialogue.

I quickly became apathetic, but I figured Destroy would at least offer cool explosions. I then shut off my console and witnessed far superior explosions on the BSN.

Modifié par RogueBot, 08 avril 2013 - 08:51 .

[TheWill]

Destroy - being told that synthetics will always kill organics seems untrue.. every story ive heard of involving machines vs organics had the organics attack first... not the synthetics.

learn from what EDI tells you.. what she is capable of.. what she tells you.. she has preferences.. she wants to learn.. shes capable of self modifying her core programming.. she can lie... take this information and apply it to the catalyst and you will find that you cant trust it... it means the catalyst is capable of the same damn things... the catalyst has all the information from all the dead races and it wants to learn.. so the harvest will continue... its considers itself as a from of life.. so it wants to survive... its been doing its own thinkg for millions of years alone... its probably capable of self modifying its programming.. and it can most likely lie...

No matter how high your EMS the best we can get is "chances of success are even" .. so that tells me we have equal forces to the reaper threat.... its a stalemate... neither side can win conventionaly... without suffering losses that would lead to extinction.... and with every reaper destroyed the catalyst looses intelligence.. just like the geth... remember the geth would rather submit than face extinction.. the loss of programmes narrowed their view and made them desperate.. the same can be said for the catalyst... thats why it gives you the choice.. its desperate


anyway thats my take... i would prefer a scene at the end of destroy showing EDI booting back up instead of shep but nevermind..

[Hazegurl]

First choice: Destroy. My Shepard saw a chance to get rid of the Reapers and took it with no regrets.

Canon choice: MEHEM +Citadel DLC. Removes all the annoying scenes, destroyed the Reapers, stayed truer to my belief that organics and synthetics can live in this galaxy together for good or ill, and had fun with my friends and Kaidan afterwards.

[Uncle Jo]

Xilizhra wrote...

Question: how often do federal troops, in one country, actually intervene in these matters? How often, in the Mass Effect galaxy, do Spectres interfere in these matters? Why would it be more likely for Reapers to do more, especially when institutions for handling that kind of thing already exist?
*snipped*

The federal troops in one country are composed by the same people as those of said country. The Spectres, although with a little too much power (still cosmic dust in comparison with the Reapers), are under the Council authority and provided by Council races.

The Reapers are...?

Edit: OT, Destroy pre EC. Refuse with EC (without metagaming), Destroy. Since then Citadel.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 08 avril 2013 - 10:30 .

[George Costanza]

I chose Destroy because it did the least amount of damage to the narrative.

[JasonShepard]

Okay, here goes...

Ending: Control

Reasons for that choice:

• My goal throughout the series was stopping the Reapers - Control achieves that.
• My work at Rannoch is not undone. Synthetic-Organic peace is a rare thing - Rannoch may be our best hope for lasting peace.
• I have no intention of ruling the galaxy - instead, after repairing the mass relays, the Reapers will have disappeared from the galaxy. Thus the galaxy can decide its own future.
• I trust the Catalyst (when it's describing the options) because, frankly, if we can't trust it then we've already lost.
• I wasn't expecting Shepard to come out of this alive.

Metagaming reasons:

• With Control it is very easy to headcanon what comes next, and (from a dramatic perspective) I enjoy the questions of identity that the Shep-AI will have to face.
• Mass Relays get repaired a LOT faster. (The EC Catalyst no longer warns you that the relays will be damaged.)

If you're really interested in my personal reasons for picking Control, see sig.

Modifié par JasonShepard, 08 avril 2013 - 10:49 .

[Wulfram]

Not killing the Geth, and Synthesis is too much gibberish for me to stomach.  So Control.

Modifié par Wulfram, 08 avril 2013 - 10:48 .

[thyrandomninja]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
[*]I don't believe that organics and synthetics are destined to destroy each other so the other choices just don't click with me.
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by choosing destroy, YOU KILLED EVERY SYNTHETIC IN THE GALAXY! clearly, organics and synthetics are destined to kill each other.

[Newschmoo]

I choose synthesis. My reasons were -

If destroy was chosen, chaos would eventually reappear again.
It would make Legion's sacrifice all for nothing (as destroy would have killed all synthetics).
EDI too would also die.
Synthetics and organics would hopefully be able to get along.

I felt very deflated at the end. I am not sure if it was the right choice. I went back and did the destroy ending as that was Shepard's brief.

In fact none of the endings are good choices :-(