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dani1138

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Enhanced wrote...

Yes, it's so wrong to mentally and physically improve all organics. They probably hate being perfect. *end sarcasm*


I would. Perfect sounds boring. We need something to strive for. We need to make mistakes and learn from them because only then can we understand what we have. We don't need some hypothetical end point handed to us on a silver platter. Something earned is so much more rewarding than something given.

N7Gold wrote...

I understand that the right choice is not always the easy one


... and yes, this too.

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drayfish wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

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Installing a USB drive in your brain without your consent because someone thinks you are too ignorant to save yourself from destruction is the same as curing a disease to you?  * no sarcasm necessary at any point *


The organics must be prepared for  ascension. You cannot resist.



My Brain/downloads_from_Reaper_hive/subservience.exe

'You are right.  I was a fool to question.  Thank you for rescuing me from my ignorance.'


Excellent, please proceed to the processing tube, have a happy day cycle.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 09 avril 2013 - 03:00 .


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I would also like to point out that my headcanon of a reconstituted Shepard is entirely consistent within the ME universe. For this, allow me to point anyone who isn't aware of it to the "Virtual Alien" story. So yes, a Control ending in which Shepard can survive as an organic as well as being the new Catalyst is possible within the ME universe, and not just the unfounded imaginings of a fan.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

drayfish wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

drayfish wrote...

Installing a USB drive in your brain without your consent because someone thinks you are too ignorant to save yourself from destruction is the same as curing a disease to you?  * no sarcasm necessary at any point *


The organics must be prepared for  ascension. You cannot resist.



My Brain/downloads_from_Reaper_hive/subservience.exe

'You are right.  I was a fool to question.  Thank you for rescuing me from my ignorance.'


Excellent, please proceed to the processing tube, have a happy day cycle citizen.


My Brain/downloads_from_Reaper_hive/install/basic_motor_function_override.exe

...

'This is certainly not an illusion of free will that I am feeling.  I am definitely enjoying being disolved into an organic paste.  All hail my democratically elected overlords!'

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In the time where MEHEM hasn't exist yet..

I chose Destroy.

It ends the Reaper's existence, although it carries a heafty price tag.
There is no way I'm discussing peaceful coexistence with an enemy that has been slaughtering entire advanced species since God knows when. 'Ascended' my a** .. It's not that the ones who got 'harvested' get any say wether or not they wanted to be 'immortalized' in Reaper goo.

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My canon picks Destroy since it solves the Reaper threat definitively, with a close-to-zero chance of such a tragedy happening again.

My Paragon chose Control, because he just couldn't let the Geth and EDI croak. And the Reapers, who can be viewed as victims of the Catalyst's solution, are spared. The Reapers are also directed to repair the Relay network and most of the damage dealt by the war.


Does it?  What happens when organics create another synthetic race this time more advanced than the Geth?  Seems to me Destroy just guarantees that if that day ever comes synthetics will most certainly fear organics and conclude that they must be destroyed.  Why wouldn't they when you just sacrificed all synthetic life to save organics?

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THe only threat I see is reapers, not synthetics as a whole. 

Who has killed every organic race at pre determined intervals for millions/billions of years?   Answer Reapers.
In our cycle who caused the Geth to leave to veil and attack organics? Answer Reaper.
Who is murdering advanced organic races?     Answer Reapers.

I don't see an organic vs synthetic problem, I see a reaper problem, so I eliminated to problem so that the galaxy could go forward on it's own terms free of the constant cloud hanging over.

No forcing change on everyone in the way I see fit to try and make them get along, no threat of big brother stepping in at any time.  Everything on our own terms from now on.

Modifié par Aaleel, 09 avril 2013 - 03:49 .


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Control.

I cant kill the geth and EDI. I rather sacrifice myself than commit genocide.

Killing the geth if u bring them to the last mission is far too renegade for me.

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Yeeah.. Control is the other ending I'd pick, pretty much. But only if I headcanon it a bit. I mean, Shepard can totally come back in a synthetic platform, much like EDI exists. Last time I was talking about this though, I got made fun of for actually believing that your thoughts and memories are what make you you rather than your body. e_e These folks never did respond to whether or not they considered organ donors or amputees to be any less them than they originally were. Hell, in this high-tech futuristic game-Universe, I imagine that Shepard could even eventually take a bio-organic body. Heh.

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 For my real playthrough: Destroy

Why? 

- Because putting myself in the place of Shepard (who has no reason to trust the little bugger, but ultimately decided a choice had to be made) Destroy is the safest bet. I saved the Geth and Quarians and supported EDI, but sacrificing a small part of the galaxy is worth saving the rest, goes back to Garrus and the 'ruthless calculus of war'. 
- Destroying the Reapers is the only surefire way of them not causing trouble, and as for the possibilities of an even greater threat appearing/synthetics taking over in the near/distant future, it's better to at least try and fail.
- From the story perspective, I played Shepard as being afraid to die, which influenced her decision enough to take Destroy as it's the best bet for her to get out. Selfish reasoning, but I have a thing for giving my characters flaws (Loghain was my favorite DA:O character I freely admit)
- Both myself and my Shepard had one thing that really stuck: Mordin's dialogue on the Collectors and culture in ME2. Synthesis would be largely the same as the Collector's situation I figure, and since I played Shep as being almost like a different version of General Petrovsky that was important enough to take to heart


For fun as something I nearly picked: Refusal

Why?

- Simple: Shepard wouldn't play God with that many lives, and she knew that Liara's failsafe was in place. Admittedly she could be seen as killing the entire galaxy, and given that with metasight Destroy, even low EMS is likely better, it may be right. 
- After all of this, all these revelations and all the death, Shepard would've lost it and just turned her entire mind into one personification of refusal, not accepting ANYTHING to do with Reapers anymore, and damn what anyone else thought.


My alternate character (same setup but full renegade and at ME3 she really was more machine than human in actions)

Synthesis

Why?

- Destroy would kill off the Geth (saved the Quarians too, passed it off as Shep just blowing out all her anger on them to the point where she shocked the Quarians into stopping) and EDI, and she did care about squadmates even though the mission was utterly important above all else
- The possibility for advancement and utopian society was too tempting
- She would've probably killed herself if she survived due to the things she did (Killing Kaidan, Samara's daughter, sabotaging the genophage/killing Wrex) so synthesis was the best option to just get it over with and actually help people as she saw


Offshoot character that started as a ****bag supreme playthrough but turned into something more:

Control

Why?

- This Shep was an egomainiac, he utterly thought he was the best thing to happen to the galaxy, which is far different than just accepting it
- Fully supported Cerberus (unlike the first Shep which just agreed with it) and instead of scorning TIM he thought TIM didn't go far enough, planned to dictate his own view on how the galaxy should progress
- Human centric views, saw Control as the best way to further those
- The idea of gaining access to all the knowledge of the Reapers was too good to pass up
- Thought about other threats to the galaxy, and the Levithans so he decided personally directing the Reapers was the best option
- Didn't think that he might be corrupted over time and come to the same conclusion as the Catalyst did about life

Modifié par Froswald, 09 avril 2013 - 04:29 .


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Control

Why? Because every other canon ending choice is a varying degree of failure.  Every one.  Unless you installed MEHEM or some other similar ending mod, if you picked anything but Control, you failed the end of the game.  If you picked Refusal, I can at least respect your position on the meta level for giving the finger right back to Bioware.  Anything else? You simply failed without qualification.

And from here, I'll copy/paste my longer explanation from elsewhere since this is fundamentally the same thread ...

First, let's get Indoctrination out of the way:

Yes, I acknowledge that Control could be a trap.  Okay, but so could any of the endings.  So could Destroy! You're expected to believe that ... shooting the Crucible somehow activates it? Does anyone else find that a little questionable? Is anyone else wondering if the Catalyst simply tricked you into breaking the Crucible, and the rest of it might just be your dying hallucination of a good outcome in the tradition of "An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge" while Starbrat laughs his ass off at you?

Basically, my point is that once we start questioning Shepard's perceptions or what Starbrat says (and I acknowledge there are reasons to question either or both, but even still), we can say anything we want to about the situation.  Destroy is just as likely to be indoctrination as Control or Synthesis, or hell -- all three could be.

Okay.  So now, taking the endings at face value:

Refusal: You fail, and everyone dies.  This ending is still an understandable choice, however, both in the meta sense (flipping the proverbial bird at Bioware and its Starbrat) and within the context of the story (why should Shepard believe anything Starbrat says at all?).  Still, taking the endings at face value, it's arguably the worst ending.  I say arguably because there is also ...

Synthesis: You turn everyone into hybrid synthetic/organic ... mutant ... things.  Against their will.  Everyone.  The implications of this are staggering and nightmare-inducing.  As has been pointed out elsewhere, you may have just sterilized everyone everywhere and frozen all people in the galaxy at whatever state of development they were currently in.  What does it even mean to turn everyone into synthetic/organic hybrids? And what stops the hybrids from making more synthetics that Starbrat will then believe will turn on their hybrid creators? Unless everything is organic now, absolutely everything? Do rocks bleed now?? I just ... I don't even.

But perhaps the worst part is that with this ending, you've solved the wrong problem.  Starbrat thinks the problem is the singularity, but the real problem is Starbrat itself.  Until you get that screwy, insane, illogical AI permanently out of the way, no one is safe.

Destroy: Or as I think of it, the "bad" successful ending.  Of course, narratively, this is the ending that makes should make the most sense.  We've learned from Saren (Synthesis) and The Illusive Man (Control) that Destroy should be the logical choice.  However, due to bad writing "artistic integrity," it's actually a pretty horrible outcome compared with what could have been, despite ultimately ending in victory.

So you eliminate the core problem, Starbrat, and save the galaxy.  Unfortunately, you also just committed mass genocide and murdered a loyal friend to boot.  Now this would be understandable if it were the only option, but ... it wasn't.  So ... it isn't.

Control: This is the good ending.  This is the only good ending.  Narratively, it should not be ... but it is.  You eliminate Starbrat by replacing it, save the galaxy, repurpose the Reapers from a destructive force into a protective one, and become an immortal god-protector.  Depending on how you interpret your transition into AI form (to wit, whether you believe it's still Shepard or not), you might even be able to pull an EDI (or do something similar) and go see your friends again!

Either way, however, you saved the galaxy, did it without committing genocide, and even gave the galaxy a powerful protective force just in case some other horrible threat from beyond decides to come along one day again and cause trouble.

Modifié par PirateMouse, 09 avril 2013 - 04:29 .


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 Destroy because it's the only ending i get to kill something

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IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

 Destroy because it's the only ending i get to kill something


If it helps any... if you choose any ending, you usually end up killing a part of yourself. :)

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My Favorite ending has happened yet as I still have yet to believe the shepard saga over until he is give n a proper ending and some some half assed elementary school ending.

ME4: Indoctrination

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Xilizhra wrote...

Any galaxy that still has warfare has clearly not developed enough to consider itself deserving to be completely free of oversight. And large-scale conflict of that nature is the only thing I'd plan to interfere with directly.


You have a remarkably idealistic view of the world if you believe a pseudo-utopia is the only way to achieve freedom. What you are suggesting is a dictatorship, wherein one entity has all the power and authority to decree their world view free of repercussion or objection. Imagine a God dictating what you are allowed to do the entirety of your life. Defy his law and be erased from existence.

Control is the manifest of a lack of freedom - the very name and corresponding avatar define that belief: Control.

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Jadebaby wrote...

anorling wrote...



I Refuse... to pick any ending at all!


The only way to win.


...What that fourth option did - that ability to refuse not only on a textual level but a metatextual one - was to allow me to reject the game itself, within the game itself.
It was an admission by the creators that, for some, their vision was unacceptable. It was a subtle form of humility, masked though it might be by the distorted, petulant exclamation by the Catalyst at my decision, and it allowed me to act with the finality I desired. I no longer wished to be a part of this story, so twisted and unrecognizable.


I was allowed to draw a line. I took them up on their offer.

Modifié par anorling, 09 avril 2013 - 08:16 .


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Synthesis.

Utopia ain't possible in real life. But if you can attain it in fiction, then why not?

Everyone learns to get along. Peace forever. The end.

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Ending: Destroy

Reasons:
1. Because this was the entire point of the game; dead Reapers.
2. Killing off the Geth & EDI was unfortunate but necessary
3. Destroying The Reapers is how you stop them once and for all.

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Lol, it 's really funny as I've noticed(again) how the ME VG has played the fans more than the other way around.

You cannot destroy what that you cannot control..and you can not control the game, no matter what choice is made. That's the sticky note of it all.

Kudo's Bioware. (too bad about the MEU tho..time will tell, as it were..heheh.)

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Lol, it 's really funny as I've noticed(again) how the ME VG has played the fans more than the other way around.

You cannot destroy what that you cannot control..and you can not control the game, no matter what choice is made. That's the sticky note of it all.

Kudo's Bioware. (too bad about the MEU tho..time will tell, as it were..heheh.)



I beg to differ. My sister can't control her car for sh!t. But she sure do a great job destroying it!

Modifié par anorling, 09 avril 2013 - 11:50 .


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anorling wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Lol, it 's really funny as I've noticed(again) how the ME VG has played the fans more than the other way around.

You cannot destroy what that you cannot control..and you can not control the game, no matter what choice is made. That's the sticky note of it all.

Kudo's Bioware. (too bad about the MEU tho..time will tell, as it were..heheh.)



I beg to differ. My sister can't control her car for sh!t. But she sure do a great job destroying it!


Un intended results is not choice. Unless your sister just hates cars, in general, but doesn't know it?

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Of course there are things you can't control but can destroy.

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The Reapers chose a path which prohibits co-existance. Complete destruction of one side, the other or both was inevitable. As a life-form that values itself and those around it highly, I chose them.

Destroy.

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Destroy seemed to be the one that was least stupid.
Didn't care about Organics vs Synthetics. More evidence that suggests Reaper vs non-Reaper conflict is the bigger concern.
Destroy is the only option that gets rid of the Reapers and we can't beat them without one. There is only one use of the Crucible.

Why not control?
2 major reasons:
1) the whole "he couldn't control us because we already controlled him.... but we're totally not controlling you!" thing didn't feel right.

2) Giving anyone (even Shepard) unlimited power for eternity is not a good idea.