Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
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Kaall wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Kaall wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Bioware has stopped the bans. They will say they didn't, but If they have stopped making balance changes, they have stopped banning too. I takes time and resources to investigate each case.
If they have stopped banning cheaters on reports, what makes you think they will ban a cheater because you over expose him ?
wouldn't that mean that the only thing you are doing is creating drama ?
Well I heard from somebody that Brojo personally investigated Link and capped him in the skull.
Link was headshot slightly before the end of service for ME3, the question is can it still happen now that the service has ended ?
And more importantly look at all the collateral damage exposing just one cheater has already done to this community, so even if it still worked, are you ready to worsen the situation every time you want a cheater to be headshot ?
Modifié par Air Quotes, 08 avril 2013 - 08:40 .
VVarn1ng wrote...
I have been recorded. I posted to this site just now.RedJohn wrote...
What does "old record" means?
Air Quotes wrote...
Then you can go and play. That will stop the accusations.
Modifié par Zjarcal, 08 avril 2013 - 08:39 .
old record. Uploaded much later.RedJohn wrote...
VVarn1ng wrote...
I have been recorded. I posted to this site just now.RedJohn wrote...
What does "old record" means?
I don't understand.
Here is the relevant thread.Topographer wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
The full damage of the grenades is applied over 3 seconds instead of intended 8, if I remember right. You just have to shoot the target with incendiary rounds after the grenade is thrown.
Kaall wrote...
Original Stikman wrote...
The "real world" and competitive gameplay are two different matters. A better analogy would be investigative reporters exposing corruption vs. someone investigating accounts and/or videos to expose cheating/modding. Without investigative reporters, many of the injustices that occur would not have been known. In fact, due to investigative reporting, we have the USDA that standardizes meat so that we all don't get sick from horrible strands of bacteria due to unregulated meat. Does the recent "horse meat in burgers" scandal ring a bell?
Leaving it up to officials isn't always a good option either. In 1989, Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold medal during the olympics and it was given to Carl Lewis, an american sprinter. Yet Carl lewis was also caught with banned substances and wasn't disqualified. Just one huge example, of officials not always doing what their job is intended to do
Investigation reporter actually investigate and collect proof before acusing someone.
And when they accuse someone they don't create a hundred different articles, only one first page in a journal is enough.
what we have seen here is quite different, we have seen Hackusation before proof, and we have seen Ruthlessness before self moderation.
your point would be valid if in here people would expose cheater without creating collateral damage, exept that by accusing before having proof and by being ruthless, it has also done worse to this community for what result only 1 ban.
that is an awesome result you got there, what is the next step ?, making this subforum the same as the romance subforum for a couple of new bans ?
Modifié par Original Stikman, 08 avril 2013 - 08:43 .
What you mean to say is "old recording."VVarn1ng wrote...
old record. Uploaded much later.
Topographer wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
The full damage of the grenades is applied over 3 seconds instead of intended 8, if I remember right. You just have to shoot the target with incendiary rounds after the grenade is thrown.
Original Stikman wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
sure thing fellow BSNer Paynez.
When you throw an infnero grenade and use incendiary rounds, it will ramp up the dps of the DOT, especially when using a fast firing gun (hurricane, ppr, harrier, etc.)
Throw two inferno grenades at a full barrier/armor banshee on gold, then shoot her with the ppr with incendiary rounds, and watch it eat her alive. Try the same thing with disruptor/phasic/drill/warp/ap and it won't be the same
Air Quotes wrote...
You take this way too seriously. The MP is on it's last legs (actually many would call it dead). There were numerous threads exposing how you can cheat by capping your FPS, which is directly Bioware's fault. And many people on old compurers are playing a different game than those who play at 60 FPS.
There are TONS of was to hack and exploit it. Many of them very easy and I'm 99% sure - untraceable and people won't even notice them.
So. If you want to avoid being hackused now or to avoid more "collateral damage" - make a good video with FPS showing, with builds intact. And for that measure - start recording on Desktop, check for updates at Origin for ME3 to make sure it's the default Coalesced, show the Task Manager and System Tray.
Then you can go and play. That will stop the accusations.
Oh, I can not explain in your language(English). You do not understand.capn233 wrote...
What you mean to say is "old recording."VVarn1ng wrote...
old record. Uploaded much later.
peddroelmz wrote...
Original Stikman wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
sure thing fellow BSNer Paynez.
When you throw an infnero grenade and use incendiary rounds, it will ramp up the dps of the DOT, especially when using a fast firing gun (hurricane, ppr, harrier, etc.)
Throw two inferno grenades at a full barrier/armor banshee on gold, then shoot her with the ppr with incendiary rounds, and watch it eat her alive. Try the same thing with disruptor/phasic/drill/warp/ap and it won't be the same
What happens is - the damage of the inferno grenades normaly applied over 8 second duration gets mixed up with incediary ammo DOT and is applied during 3 seconds (much faster) instead ... Total damage is relatively the same only applied much faster (different from the warp incendiary ammo interraction where total damage skyrockets ) ... Also allows combined DOT effect - incendiary ammo to damage to defences it shouldn't do any damage to - shields and barriers ... Will also get inferno grenades multiplier vs armor (up to * 2.25) instead if the regular *1 incendiary ammo has vs armor...
That's nonsense. Even if it were identical to console players, artifically limiting the FPS is essentially cheating because you are purposefully manipulating the AI with the intent to make the game easier for yourself.Kaall wrote...
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
Ah, you mean it was completed before Link did his "record" runs?VVarn1ng wrote...
Oh, I can not explain in your language(English). You do not understand.
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Kaall wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
You take this way too seriously. The MP is on it's last legs (actually many would call it dead). There were numerous threads exposing how you can cheat by capping your FPS, which is directly Bioware's fault. And many people on old compurers are playing a different game than those who play at 60 FPS.
There are TONS of was to hack and exploit it. Many of them very easy and I'm 99% sure - untraceable and people won't even notice them.
So. If you want to avoid being hackused now or to avoid more "collateral damage" - make a good video with FPS showing, with builds intact. And for that measure - start recording on Desktop, check for updates at Origin for ME3 to make sure it's the default Coalesced, show the Task Manager and System Tray.
Then you can go and play. That will stop the accusations.
That is exactly what i said, considered guilty until proven innocent, the exact contrary as what justice is based on
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
you sure knows what double standards means, because you seem to apply it very well.
Yes. probablycapn233 wrote...
Ah, you mean it was completed before Link did his "record" runs?VVarn1ng wrote...
Oh, I can not explain in your language(English). You do not understand.
Air Quotes wrote...
Kaall wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
You take this way too seriously. The MP is on it's last legs (actually many would call it dead). There were numerous threads exposing how you can cheat by capping your FPS, which is directly Bioware's fault. And many people on old compurers are playing a different game than those who play at 60 FPS.
There are TONS of was to hack and exploit it. Many of them very easy and I'm 99% sure - untraceable and people won't even notice them.
So. If you want to avoid being hackused now or to avoid more "collateral damage" - make a good video with FPS showing, with builds intact. And for that measure - start recording on Desktop, check for updates at Origin for ME3 to make sure it's the default Coalesced, show the Task Manager and System Tray.
Then you can go and play. That will stop the accusations.
That is exactly what i said, considered guilty until proven innocent, the exact contrary as what justice is based on
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
you sure knows what double standards means, because you seem to apply it very well.
I'm not arguing that 30 FPS IS the intended difficulty and that's how the game should be played. But still. You're playing a DIFFERENT game than those at 60.
capn233 wrote...
That's nonsense. Even if it were identical to console players, artifically limiting the FPS is essentially cheating because you are purposefully manipulating the AI with the intent to make the game easier for yourself.Kaall wrote...
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
Modifié par Kaall, 08 avril 2013 - 08:55 .
That is speculation since none of the devs specifically said that 30fps was the intended framerate on PC. There are vague statements in the past that they felt that they were balanced due to control differences. Likely given that the PC config tries to get it to run with VSync, they intended it to run mainly around 60fps.Kaall wrote...
That is where i don't agree, i am not making it easier, i am making sure that the difficulty i am playing is the same as what it was intended when it was coded.
They also didn't say it was "clever use of game mechanics." The only reason they were not on that is because they would be hard pressed to determine if someone was artificially limiting fps or if they had slow hardware.Also, console are also limiting the FPS while they could sometimes go higher, that is the same mechanism, the difference is that the game has been proorly coded in that specific aspect and that if you want the same experience you have to do what a console naturally do by itself.
For me it is not cheating, and Devs has not stated that it was cheating either, that is just a standard you want to want to be applied.
Whatever.But if you are so sure of yourself that it is cheating, i am playing 30 fps since the thread that uncovered how fps imacted gameplay came up, so just go ahead and report me, i am pretty sure i won't have any problem at all.
Modifié par capn233, 08 avril 2013 - 09:01 .
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Kaall wrote...
capn233 wrote...
That's nonsense. Even if it were identical to console players, artifically limiting the FPS is essentially cheating because you are purposefully manipulating the AI with the intent to make the game easier for yourself.Kaall wrote...
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
That is where i don't agree, i am not making it easier, i am making sure that the difficulty i am playing is the same as what it was intended when it was coded.
Also, console are also limiting the FPS while they could sometimes go higher, that is the same mechanism, the difference is that the game has been proorly coded in that specific aspect and that if you want the same experience you have to do what a console naturally do by itself.
For me it is not cheating, and Devs has not stated that it was cheating either, that is just a standard you want to want to be applied.
But if you are so sure of yourself that it is cheating, i am playing 30 fps since the thread that uncovered how fps imacted gameplay came up, so just go ahead and report me, i am pretty sure i won't have any problem at all.
Modifié par Air Quotes, 08 avril 2013 - 09:03 .
Kaall wrote...
That is exactly what i said, considered guilty until proven innocent, the exact contrary as what justice is based on
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
you sure knows what double standards means, because you seem to apply it very well.
yeah it feels pretty cheap but I still put inc rounds on my Krosol for maximum fire explosionsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Paynez wrote...
Never heard of that one. Tell me more. Stikman plsOriginal Stikman wrote...
Incendiary Rounds/Infernoe grenade glitch
sure thing fellow BSNer Paynez.
When you throw an infnero grenade and use incendiary rounds, it will ramp up the dps of the DOT, especially when using a fast firing gun (hurricane, ppr, harrier, etc.)
Throw two inferno grenades at a full barrier/armor banshee on gold, then shoot her with the ppr with incendiary rounds, and watch it eat her alive. Try the same thing with disruptor/phasic/drill/warp/ap and it won't be the same
Air Quotes wrote...
Kaall wrote...
capn233 wrote...
That's nonsense. Even if it were identical to console players, artifically limiting the FPS is essentially cheating because you are purposefully manipulating the AI with the intent to make the game easier for yourself.Kaall wrote...
Also capping your FPS to 30 is not a cheat, it is just making sure you have the same AI and shield regen that console players have.
That is where i don't agree, i am not making it easier, i am making sure that the difficulty i am playing is the same as what it was intended when it was coded.
Also, console are also limiting the FPS while they could sometimes go higher, that is the same mechanism, the difference is that the game has been proorly coded in that specific aspect and that if you want the same experience you have to do what a console naturally do by itself.
For me it is not cheating, and Devs has not stated that it was cheating either, that is just a standard you want to want to be applied.
But if you are so sure of yourself that it is cheating, i am playing 30 fps since the thread that uncovered how fps imacted gameplay came up, so just go ahead and report me, i am pretty sure i won't have any problem at all.
I'm not blaming you. I'm not even blaming Link. I blame Bioware for being lazy and/or stupid and not having server side Coalesced for MP. I'm blaming them for not having basic anti-cheat protection. I'm blaming them for tying the A.I. directly to FPS.
In the end - It's Bioware to blame. People will ALWAYS try to take advantage of things and cheat in any way they can for e-peen boost.
Modifié par FlowCytometry, 08 avril 2013 - 09:20 .
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