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[VVarn1ng]

Air Quotes wrote...

2 people sharing accounts. Yeah. Whatever.

We have changed, because I open all the weapons, and he does not. I am an altruist.

[sandboxgod]

Yeah this is just  abit too fishy for me too.

I starting watching the vid just now tho. Looking good. Yeah, its just Glacier again. And I am tired of seeing Glacier. But seems to play well. Funny~ I was just thinking of moving to the Phoenix Vanguard to complete his 200 waves. The Phoenix Adept is a little too squishy for me with my current build 6/6/6/4/4.

I'm only in Wave 2 in this video now. I don't see Lash being used. I guess you skipped it?? Perhaps I should try a similiar build and see how I fare

[Scam_poo]

I don't know why people spoil this thread with accusations, but I am here for the gameplay and it was really good. I don't care whether he is a cheater, he knows what he is doing and deserves some respect for that.

[longgamma]

Scam_poo wrote...

I don't know why people spoil this thread with accusations, but I am here for the gameplay and it was really good. I don't care whether he is a cheater, he knows what he is doing and deserves some respect for that.

Well to be fair it is good having skeptical people around. After all they busted the Fury player. That said, Everyone deserves the benefit of doubt.  Lynch mobs are very brutal on BSN. 

[Deerber]

Scam_poo wrote...

I don't know why people spoil this thread with accusations, but I am here for the gameplay and it was really good. I don't care whether he is a cheater, he knows what he is doing and deserves some respect for that.

More than "people" you mean "Air Quotes" 

[Max Dmian]

Let's see, OP's old account has 718h 25m 22s time played, 2754 games played.
That's an average 15.7 minutes per game.

I compared to some other PC players - even some of the well known Platinum speedrunners have an 18.x minute average. That's a huge difference. I'll just say it's statistically rare, considering indicators for regular Gold/Plat players like N7 rank and maxed manifest. Especially interesting compared to the (regular) 20.5 average with our altruist's new account. Either OP got considerably slower (5 minutes per game) or more than thousand of OPs games were 10 minute bronze games before jumping to 20 minute Gold/Plat games while spending a lot of money on a maxed manifest.
Or something entirely different.

It is great gameplay, that much is true. But I don't think a cheater deserves respect. Recognition for actual skill maybe, but respect is another matter. If OP is a cheater, I can't really say. People should have proof before calling out. 

But at this point I personally think it's...suspicious. 

Modifié par Max Dmian, 08 avril 2013 - 02:16 .

[VVarn1ng]

Max Dmian wrote...

Let's see, OP's old account has 718h 25m 22s time played, 2754 games played.
That's an average 15.7 minutes per game.

I compared to some other PC players - even some of the well known Platinum speedrunners have an 18.x minute average. That's a huge difference. I'll just say it's statistically rare, considering indicators for regular Gold/Plat players like N7 rank and maxed manifest. Especially interesting compared to the 20.5 average with our altruist's new account. Either OP got considerably slower (5 minutes per game) or more than thousand of OPs games were 10 minute bronze games before jumping to 20 minute Gold/Plat games while spending a lot of money on a maxed manifest.
Or something entirely different.

It is great gameplay, that much is true. But I don't think a cheater deserves respect. Recognition for actual skill maybe, but respect is another matter.

Speed run for 8-10 minutes every day,  20 times in day.

[sandboxgod]

Interesting post Max Dmian

[VVarn1ng]

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Modifié par VVarn1ng, 08 avril 2013 - 02:21 .

[Deerber]

Max Dmian wrote...

Let's see, OP's old account has 718h 25m 22s time played, 2754 games played.
That's an average 15.7 minutes per game.

I compared to some other PC players - even some of the well known Platinum speedrunners have an 18.x minute average. That's a huge difference. I'll just say it's statistically rare, considering indicators for regular Gold/Plat players like N7 rank and maxed manifest. Especially interesting compared to the (regular) 20.5 average with our altruist's new account. Either OP got considerably slower (5 minutes per game) or more than thousand of OPs games were 10 minute bronze games before jumping to 20 minute Gold/Plat games while spending a lot of money on a maxed manifest.
Or something entirely different.

It is great gameplay, that much is true. But I don't think a cheater deserves respect. Recognition for actual skill maybe, but respect is another matter. If OP is a cheater, I can't really say. People should have proof before calling out. 

But at this point I personally think it's...suspicious. 

Games played =/= games completed, though. As far as I know, if you start a solo with no consumables on and quit after a minute it still counts for that. So it doesn't have much meaning to compare those statistics, in my opinion...

Air Quotes wrote...

I see you one shotting a Dragoon with Smash without priming with Acolyte. Which isn't possible on Platinum even after Charge and maxed Smash for armor damage. 

Somehow I have a feeling that some people are doing Platinum with Gold level enemies. 

Care to provide a link or a minute? I would be interested in seeing that, although I can't be bothered with searching for it.

Modifié par Deerber, 08 avril 2013 - 02:19 .

[VVarn1ng]

Air Quotes wrote...

I see you one shotting a Dragoon with Smash without priming with Acolyte. Which isn't possible on Platinum even after Charge and maxed Smash for armor damage.

Somehow I have a feeling that some people are doing Platinum with Gold level enemies.

+ 40% damage from biotic charge.

[stysiaq]

I really liked the gameplay I saw.

@Max Dmian
Mind that if you start a bronze game and exit it after a couple of seconds you'll have +1 game played. It doesn't count extractions (maybe counting extractions would serve as a better metric)

That's how I take screenshots, for example. I'm done after 5 minutes. Ort that's how I do challenges at times, for example I did sth like 46k Biotic Orbs points in one game and finished the 50k in a bronze glacier quasi-game.

Anyway, I'm quite sad that one's skill is questioned so often.

This board is slowly dying after the end of balance changes. Why would anyone have any urge to show off a rigged game?

[Deerber]

Air Quotes wrote...

VVarn1ng wrote...

VVarn1ng wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

Let's see, OP's old account has 718h 25m 22s time played, 2754 games played.
That's an average 15.7 minutes per game.

I compared to some other PC players - even some of the well known Platinum speedrunners have an 18.x minute average. That's a huge difference. I'll just say it's statistically rare, considering indicators for regular Gold/Plat players like N7 rank and maxed manifest. Especially interesting compared to the 20.5 average with our altruist's new account. Either OP got considerably slower (5 minutes per game) or more than thousand of OPs games were 10 minute bronze games before jumping to 20 minute Gold/Plat games while spending a lot of money on a maxed manifest.
Or something entirely different.

It is great gameplay, that much is true. But I don't think a cheater deserves respect. Recognition for actual skill maybe, but respect is another matter.

Speed run for 8-10 minutes every day,  20 times in day.

+ 40% damage from biotic charge.

 

Maxed Smash with Armor damage after Charge with 40% more damage with Acolyte 30% more power damage does 4403 damage. Even with Power Amplifier 4 it'll deal only 5125. 

Platinum Dragoon has 6254 Armor. 

AQ is right here. There's no possible way someone can 1-shot a platinum Dragoon with a Smash without debuffs in place. Period.

[VVarn1ng]

Air Quotes wrote...

VVarn1ng wrote...

VVarn1ng wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

Let's see, OP's old account has 718h 25m 22s time played, 2754 games played.
That's an average 15.7 minutes per game.

I compared to some other PC players - even some of the well known Platinum speedrunners have an 18.x minute average. That's a huge difference. I'll just say it's statistically rare, considering indicators for regular Gold/Plat players like N7 rank and maxed manifest. Especially interesting compared to the 20.5 average with our altruist's new account. Either OP got considerably slower (5 minutes per game) or more than thousand of OPs games were 10 minute bronze games before jumping to 20 minute Gold/Plat games while spending a lot of money on a maxed manifest.
Or something entirely different.

It is great gameplay, that much is true. But I don't think a cheater deserves respect. Recognition for actual skill maybe, but respect is another matter.

Speed run for 8-10 minutes every day,  20 times in day.

+ 40% damage from biotic charge.

 

Maxed Smash with Armor damage after Charge with 40% more damage with Acolyte 30% more power damage does 4403 damage. Even with Power Amplifier 4 it'll deal only 5125. 

Platinum Dragoon has 6254 Armor. 

Try it yourself. A shot of the Acolyte with incendiary ammo ignites enemy. And then just smash and fiery explosion.

[stysiaq]

@AQ:

Correction, last fitness rank adds power damage as well.

Still, "only" 5500 damage according to Narida tool.

[VVarn1ng]

it must be checked in practice themselves.

[Max Dmian]

stysiaq wrote...

@Max Dmian
Mind that if you start a bronze game and exit it after a couple of seconds you'll have +1 game played. It doesn't count extractions (maybe counting extractions would serve as a better metric)

Yes, I am fully aware of how those statistics work and that they're just indicators. Which is why I stated that it's statistically very rare. But let me do the math here: Even if I'm counting in those games - I'll be generous and count them as 0-second-games - there would've been at least about 350 of those 0-second-games in the total 2754 to even come close to an actual (already low) average 18.

Also I will try what onehitting a Dragoon with OP's combination later myself, including BC bonus and Fire Explosion. Before anyone does that it's only suspicious at best.

Modifié par Max Dmian, 08 avril 2013 - 02:36 .

[stysiaq]

@VVarning:

Did you use Power Amp IV or Cyclonic?

I'd gladly test your build myself (if you link it), I'm an empirist. I'm the last guy to accuse any soloist of anything, I just want to see it for myself. I haven't used Phoenix Vanguard in ages.