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Deerber wrote...

capn233 wrote...

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Actually, according to Corlist's spreadsheet, an incendiary FE does 1500 ish damage, on platinum armor. I did a quick calculation and it seemed to more or less confirm AQ's numbers, so my statement was based on that.

I went by Cyonan's formula so:

(((max_damage - min_damage) * (combined_power_ranks / 12)) + min_damage) * difficulty_modifier * combo_modifier * defence_modifier = final_damage

[((250-100)*(6/12)+100]*5.0625*1*2 = ~1772


I usually just refer to the spreadsheet in here. I can't be bothered with the computation every time.


Cyonan's formula is incorrect.  The formula by corlist is.  The key difference is that we use:
(combined_power_ranks-2)/10, instead of (combined_power_ranks/12), and count ammo as a level 1 primer.  

This chart shows the difference between the correct numbers, and the ones obtained through Cyonan's formula

https://docs.google....9DNFJxMVE#gid=0

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peddroelmz wrote...

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Thanks peddro. How can I maxmize my build? 


narida link

that build maximizes smash damage potential vs armor ... But is not very platinum solo viable ..


Awesome!! Thanks peddro you rule :wizard:

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tyhw wrote...

Cyonan's formula is incorrect.  The formula by corlist is.  The key difference is that we use:
(combined_power_ranks-2)/10, instead of (combined_power_ranks/12), and count ammo as a level 1 primer.  

This chart shows the difference between the correct numbers, and the ones obtained through Cyonan's formula

https://docs.google....9DNFJxMVE#gid=0

Noooooo!!!

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Air Quotes wrote...

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Why shouldn't you do it still? Lots of people would be interested, still. And those who wouldn't because of this... Then I think you shouldn't be interested in their opinions/comments too, so...


Haha, wasn't being serious (that I won't do it). I'll get to it once I actually finish it lol. And figure out how to not get sync-ed in sync-kill range. . .
Actually I'd be very interested in producing a thread like this :whistle:


I think AQ is just trolling to prove a point. :o

 

I'm not trolling anything. It's just that too many shady people with interesting connections come up here (like Link), post some times, drop some funny stories and want us to believe it. 

Maybe I'm wrong. And If I'm wrong I'm wrong and I'm sorry. But at this point I think Platinum solos and posts are worthless. The game's protection is a joke, you can edit it in a myriad of ways and make it better for you. And if you're a good player to begin with, you're gonna benefit from those changes like a mo-fo. 



I respect Air Quotes and his exposure of some of these guys.

A lot of people don't want to admit it, but at any elite level of anything (sports, card games, video games), those at the highest level with access to blur the lines between cheating and playing by the rules will typically be using some sort of PED (Performance Enhancing Drug), whether it be anabolics, moding game files, weighing cards, or human growth hormone.

The majority of people won't want to believe that this type of "cheating" is rampant in their beloved hobbies/sports, but its there, and in huge quantities.

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.

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Original Stikman wrote...

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soulstriker09 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Why shouldn't you do it still? Lots of people would be interested, still. And those who wouldn't because of this... Then I think you shouldn't be interested in their opinions/comments too, so...


Haha, wasn't being serious (that I won't do it). I'll get to it once I actually finish it lol. And figure out how to not get sync-ed in sync-kill range. . .
Actually I'd be very interested in producing a thread like this :whistle:


I think AQ is just trolling to prove a point. :o

 

I'm not trolling anything. It's just that too many shady people with interesting connections come up here (like Link), post some times, drop some funny stories and want us to believe it. 

Maybe I'm wrong. And If I'm wrong I'm wrong and I'm sorry. But at this point I think Platinum solos and posts are worthless. The game's protection is a joke, you can edit it in a myriad of ways and make it better for you. And if you're a good player to begin with, you're gonna benefit from those changes like a mo-fo. 



I respect Air Quotes and his exposure of some of these guys.

A lot of people don't want to admit it, but at any elite level of anything (sports, card games, video games), those at the highest level with access to blur the lines between cheating and playing by the rules will typically be using some sort of PED (Performance Enhancing Drug), whether it be anabolics, moding game files, weighing cards, or human growth hormone.

The majority of people won't want to believe that this type of "cheating" is rampant in their beloved hobbies/sports, but its there, and in huge quantities.

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.

 

I probably woudn't in real life. Link would prolly kill me or something. But since it's internetz I can post it. Only Big Brother knows what I'm doing here :wizard::innocent:

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Even if the enemies had gold health or whatever, i cant do this. so props either way.

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Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.

Modifié par Kaall, 08 avril 2013 - 06:37 .


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altrocksnp wrote...

Even if the enemies had gold health or whatever, i cant do this. so props either way.

You do not have even the right level of weapons and gear 4 levels.

Modifié par VVarn1ng, 08 avril 2013 - 06:43 .


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Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.

 

Look I understand you. And I understand that I did cross the line sometimes. It's only a game and it's only BSN. We shouldn't behave like kids. 

But I have this code. You can cheat for all I care. You can aimbot, credit glitch, Cheat Engine and Coalesced hack to your hearts content. Just don't try to BS BSN and me with your "achievements" Keep it private. Posting your "awesome" runs with hax shows that you think all people are stupid. And that's a bit insulting. And I don't like it.  

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Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.


No way. If people really care about "even playing fields" then they would take a more extreme stance than air quotes does.

PEDs run RAMPANT in all competitive elite hobbies/sports/games.

People made a "witch hunt" out of lance armstrong, but the people who knew better already knew he had been taking PEDs for years, as do all of the elite cyclists. The difference here, is that Air Quotes hasn't made N7-Link a scapegoat like the USDA did Lance Armstrong in an effort to console the mainstream consumers that they are "doing their job to make the sport 'fair'" which is a joke.

If anything, Air Quotes is the reality-check telling the credulous masses that they are worshipping someone who plays an entirely different game

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nice video, but how in the world do you consistently dodge atlas rockets? Those snipers ignored you too. good combo skills though. Getting two banshees stuck in the ceiling was nice too lol.

If anything in this video is fishy it would be the AI being horrible at times with phantoms attacking him in the back without a sync kill or snipers refusing to scope in on him. That and the fact a lot of enemies missed their shots while he was out in the open.

I envy you for the fact those ravagers didn't shoot your through walls after landing their first hit and in fact, hardly ever shot at you, phantoms didn't sync kill you while being right behind you, phantoms missing their shots 3 feet in front of you and the fact you never took any damage while you rolled. That is not at all my experience in plat games. If only I could dodge as good.

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Original Stikman wrote...

Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.


No way. If people really care about "even playing fields" then they would take a more extreme stance than air quotes does.

PEDs run RAMPANT in all competitive elite hobbies/sports/games.

People made a "witch hunt" out of lance armstrong, but the people who knew better already knew he had been taking PEDs for years, as do all of the elite cyclists. The difference here, is that Air Quotes hasn't made N7-Link a scapegoat like the USDA did Lance Armstrong in an effort to console the mainstream consumers that they are "doing their job to make the sport 'fair'" which is a joke.

If anything, Air Quotes is the reality-check telling the credulous masses that they are worshipping someone who plays an entirely different game


And for that we should all suffer the bad ambiance, all PC players should all accept to be considered guilty before proven innocent ?

i don't accept that.

There are tools that are at everyones's disposition to report cheaters, and if you don't know how to, you can PM a moderator.

But setting the forum on fire for a "reality check" is not a solution, it only make the forum a bad place to be.

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Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.


No way. If people really care about "even playing fields" then they would take a more extreme stance than air quotes does.

PEDs run RAMPANT in all competitive elite hobbies/sports/games.

People made a "witch hunt" out of lance armstrong, but the people who knew better already knew he had been taking PEDs for years, as do all of the elite cyclists. The difference here, is that Air Quotes hasn't made N7-Link a scapegoat like the USDA did Lance Armstrong in an effort to console the mainstream consumers that they are "doing their job to make the sport 'fair'" which is a joke.

If anything, Air Quotes is the reality-check telling the credulous masses that they are worshipping someone who plays an entirely different game


And for that we should all suffer the bad ambiance, all PC players should all accept to be considered guilty before proven innocent ?

i don't accept that.

There are tools that are at everyones's disposition to report cheaters, and if you don't know how to, you can PM a moderator.

But setting the forum on fire for a "reality check" is not a solution, it only make the forum a bad place to be.

 

Oh c'mon. I think BSN rather enjoys the dramas. =]  

Also: 

youtu.be/GQ1ISnkS5oY :lol: 

So let's chillax. The game is dead and everything has been done and said about it. 

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Really Really Impressive.

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Daily BSN drama

YEAH

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Air Quotes wrote...

Oh c'mon. I think BSN rather enjoys the dramas. =]  



yup, but seriously I think the only fishy thing in the video is the AI, not the actual HP, but the lack of pressure from the AI

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service_is_down wrote...



Air Quotes wrote...

Oh c'mon. I think BSN rather enjoys the dramas. =]  



yup, but seriously I think the only fishy thing in the video is the AI, not the actual HP, but the lack of pressure from the AI


Low FPS

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Riccoshot wrote...

service_is_down wrote...



Air Quotes wrote...

Oh c'mon. I think BSN rather enjoys the dramas. =]  



yup, but seriously I think the only fishy thing in the video is the AI, not the actual HP, but the lack of pressure from the AI


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Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.


No way. If people really care about "even playing fields" then they would take a more extreme stance than air quotes does.

PEDs run RAMPANT in all competitive elite hobbies/sports/games.

People made a "witch hunt" out of lance armstrong, but the people who knew better already knew he had been taking PEDs for years, as do all of the elite cyclists. The difference here, is that Air Quotes hasn't made N7-Link a scapegoat like the USDA did Lance Armstrong in an effort to console the mainstream consumers that they are "doing their job to make the sport 'fair'" which is a joke.

If anything, Air Quotes is the reality-check telling the credulous masses that they are worshipping someone who plays an entirely different game


And for that we should all suffer the bad ambiance, all PC players should all accept to be considered guilty before proven innocent ?

i don't accept that.

There are tools that are at everyones's disposition to report cheaters, and if you don't know how to, you can PM a moderator.

But setting the forum on fire for a "reality check" is not a solution, it only make the forum a bad place to be.


1st part is a slippery slope argument.

So, what if the moderators don't do anything about the cheater... for months? Do we still allow people to idolize or accept these "accomplishments" at face value?

If you don't like Air Quote's method for a solution, what could you propose to find a better one? Reporting has shown to be very innefective, while what Air Quotes brought up with N7-Link got his account wiped very quickly

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Only Big Brother knows what I'm doing here :wizard::innocent:


You touch yourself at nights.

I'm onto you. :ph34r:

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Original Stikman wrote...

If you don't like Air Quote's method for a solution, what could you propose to find a better one? Reporting has shown to be very innefective, while what Air Quotes brought up with N7-Link got his account wiped very quickly


For the 100th time. Link's account was not wiped.

Also, may I add that you seem to have a type of mentality which is, in my opinion, really really bad. For the others talking to you, but mainly for you.

And if we're talking about some videogame it's ok after all, no big deal...

I just wish you don't really have that kind of mentality when it comes to sports too. Cause that's really bad for you.

Modifié par Deerber, 08 avril 2013 - 07:23 .


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Deerber wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

If you don't like Air Quote's method for a solution, what could you propose to find a better one? Reporting has shown to be very innefective, while what Air Quotes brought up with N7-Link got his account wiped very quickly


For the 100th time. Link's account was not wiped.

Also, may I add that you seem to have a type of mentality which is, in my opinion, really really bad. For the others talking to you, but mainly for you.

And if we're talking about some videogame it's ok after all, no big deal...

I just wish you don't really have that kind of mentality when it comes to sports too. Cause that's really bad for you.


it wasn't? :blink:

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Original Stikman wrote...

Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Kaall wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I think Air Quotes knows this (correct me if I am wrong) and thats why he is willing to put himself out there and call these people out on it.


Yeah, but there is a fine line between giving those who deserve it a bit of exposure, and starting a witch hunt that make all the forum nuts and the ambiance completly deleterious.

That fine line is called Self Moderation and that line has been crossed far too many times.


No way. If people really care about "even playing fields" then they would take a more extreme stance than air quotes does.

PEDs run RAMPANT in all competitive elite hobbies/sports/games.

People made a "witch hunt" out of lance armstrong, but the people who knew better already knew he had been taking PEDs for years, as do all of the elite cyclists. The difference here, is that Air Quotes hasn't made N7-Link a scapegoat like the USDA did Lance Armstrong in an effort to console the mainstream consumers that they are "doing their job to make the sport 'fair'" which is a joke.

If anything, Air Quotes is the reality-check telling the credulous masses that they are worshipping someone who plays an entirely different game


And for that we should all suffer the bad ambiance, all PC players should all accept to be considered guilty before proven innocent ?

i don't accept that.

There are tools that are at everyones's disposition to report cheaters, and if you don't know how to, you can PM a moderator.

But setting the forum on fire for a "reality check" is not a solution, it only make the forum a bad place to be.


1st part is a slippery slope argument.

So, what if the moderators don't do anything about the cheater... for months? Do we still allow people to idolize or accept these "accomplishments" at face value?

If you don't like Air Quote's method for a solution, what could you propose to find a better one? Reporting has shown to be very innefective, while what Air Quotes brought up with N7-Link got his account wiped very quickly

 

Actually no one took me seriously. Till Pedro posted. If not him: BSN would probably still line-up to give Link BJ's. 

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Deerber wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

If you don't like Air Quote's method for a solution, what could you propose to find a better one? Reporting has shown to be very innefective, while what Air Quotes brought up with N7-Link got his account wiped very quickly


For the 100th time. Link's account was not wiped.

Also, may I add that you seem to have a type of mentality which is, in my opinion, really really bad. For the others talking to you, but mainly for you.

And if we're talking about some videogame it's ok after all, no big deal...

I just wish you don't really have that kind of mentality when it comes to sports too. Cause that's really bad for you.


can you elaborate on what you think is "really really bad" because i have no clue what you are talking about, specifically.

Also, even if n7-link's account wasn't wiped, what Air Quotes did worked, and it worked quickly, unlike the ban waves