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[Erakleitos]

Bethesda problem is their game engine which sucks when it comes to combat, but it's perfect for other things like modding (which i don't care about personally). Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion and Morrowind because you have guns and for that "i win now" bullet time...

[Bibdy]

At least FO3 is easier to look at that FO 1 or 2. My brother absolutely loved the games, but I couldn't get into them at all when you're just running through identical building after identical building.



FO3 was fun, but not enough fun for me to even bother exploring the north half of the map. You spend more time in that game worrying about your ammo and inventory than you do exploring.

[Shamagar]

I think the origen quests in DA is much better than FO3, not to mention that at least you get some marked difference in the classes. Also, the story, and character interaction make for a fun role playing experience.



However, there is a certain vastness to the FO3 world that DA can't even compare to.

[addiction21]

Bibdy wrote...

At least FO3 is easier to look at that FO 1 or 2. My brother absolutely loved the games, but I couldn't get into them at all when you're just running through identical building after identical building.

FO3 was fun, but not enough fun for me to even bother exploring the north half of the map. You spend more time in that game worrying about your ammo and inventory than you do exploring.

That is why god invented sledge hammers... well I think it was god anyway.

[Wishpig]

SleeplessInSigil wrote...

Well yes, of course, these two genres are essentially incomparable. but I just had to share the wow. ^^

Thats B.S.

Now comparing Half-Life 2 to Madden, ok, THAT my be incomparable, but comparing two games that are RPG's, focus heavily on story, and focus on the idea of choices... you can freely compare the two.

Especially in terms of atmosphere, being the games are so based on pulling you into the world and enthralling you in their story, you can freely compare the two.

Dragon Age manages to crush Fallout 3 in terms of story (if you ask me), but Fallout 3's landscape really pulls you in. However, Dragon Age's landscape is FAR more varied then the wastes of fallout, so it's a fair tradeoff in my book.

[leeboi2]

Apart from the fact that theyre nothing like each other...stupid subject

[Bibdy]

Two animals don't have to be of the same species in order to figure out which one is faster.

[Chriagon]

I'm still surprised how much fun playing Fallout 3 was considering the poor (main) quest(s).

I think that the world in FO3 (and in Oblivion) is much more atmospheric compared to DA, while storytelling and characters are much better in DA.

All in all DA is my favourite game. But FO3 was great too, hands down.

Modifié par chrissicross, 15 janvier 2010 - 05:40 .

[Abriael_CG]

chrissicross wrote...

I'm still surprised how much fun playing Fallout 3 was considering the poor (main) quest(s).
I think that the world in FO3 (and in Oblivion) is much more atmospheric compared to DA, while storytelling and characters are much better in DA.
All in all DA are my favourite game. But FO3 was great too, hands down.

personally i don't consider an irrealistically small world with shrinked distances and lots of absiolutely empty and barren landscape any atmospheric...

[Bibdy]

I thought it was plenty atmospheric, and that's not to say that DA:O isn't. Gun shots echoing in the air, dust clouds flying by, hearing the sounds of robot beeps echoing in the distance. The sound and visual effects in the game were top notch.

[Anhihi]

I loved the totally freedom in FO3, but like stated before the NPCs are all the same and not really interesting. In FO3 you can go totally evil tho, thats +100!

[Bhatair]

Fo3 immerse me in the environment.

DA:O immerses me in my character.



I like them both.

[Chriagon]

Maybe I should have used the word "environment" instead of "world". My English is somewhat limited unfortunately.

[Bibdy]

Bhatair wrote...

Fo3 immerse me in the environment.
DA:O immerses me in my character.

I like them both.

That's a nice summary.

[Vankuish]

Good thread. I have both games still in my posession, and was thinking about this the other day. I played Fallout3 doing most of the quests in my first playthrough, and went to do ALL of them in the second, but never made it to the end again...it got too old and repetitive. No differences in gameplay or storyline really.

I've played through DAO now in full twice, once as a human warrior and once as a human mage. Now I'm playing as an elf rogue. In all three games, while there are some parts that will be the same, there are also differences in the storyline and how the NPC reacted to one another and you. Different opportunities as well that seem to present themselves.   I always seem to be able to find something new in each playthrough or notice how something played out differently.

So while this is my third playthrough right now....I've still not grown tired of the game, and will probably do another playthrough as a dwarf next, and after that as a female bard I think. 

To me, the "which game is better" (to you) argument can be determined by how much you play it and enjoy it. For me...the answer is clear. DAO all the way.

Modifié par Vankuish, 15 janvier 2010 - 06:17 .

[Raoune]

Seconded, a great summary.



The only time I'd ever end up comparing them is when I'd go to loot a corpse in D.A and be annoyed I couldn't steal their weapon, lol

[Vankuish]

^^^definitely. I think that should be an update on upcoming DA games. WHATEVER the other guy has on them...we should be able to loot. Items, money, weapons, etc.

[wonko33]

I felt more immersion in Fallout for sure. I think being able to have your own place and modify it also made me feel l was living in that world. The camp is kinda boring with the companions glued to the same spot all the time no tents or anything.



I feel more involved in the story in DAO though. More central to the action, making a difference.



But it's all nitpicking really. I loved both games I would be hard pressed to pick a favorite.

[AngryFrozenWater]

What I like about FO3 (and Oblivion) is the open world. Every level in DA:O is kind of linear. There is an entrance and an exit and you cannot go off that path. You cannot even take a simple shortcut on a road or just leave the road. because there are no provisions for that. FO3 doesn't have those limitations.

[MidgardSerpentZ]

Bhatair hit it on the nose with his comment.

Something that incredible bothered me initally (later on less so when I became immersed in the world), that every object is glued stuck to the background, there's very little interactivity. Same with people, it's all very stiff. You get even a little hill or obstacle it already means you can't pass it, that feels very restrictive ans unresponsive. And I don't think the environment is in any way permanently affected by your actions either.Your surroundings often felt a bit like a wooden decor. 



Dragon Age is a bit like Mass Effect in the way that I feel that even though both games have a lot of flaws, I still had/have incredible fun playing them. And that the first part laid down the path for a potentially brilliant sequel. Massively looking forward to the sequels to both games! 

Modifié par MidgardSerpentZ, 15 janvier 2010 - 06:32 .

[NRG-OptimaL]

both are great but i prefer fallout 3.

[CakesOnAPlane]

For me Fallout 3 had a cool world but no good characters. Whereas DA:O has a less interactive/interesting environment but a much greater focus on character/story. It's down to preferance really (as always) and I prefer characters/story, though I love playing Fallout 3.

[Abriael_CG]

In any case, when bethesda will learn to write an half decent story or ONE believable character (I don't say many, one would be enough) I'll consider them more. At the moment, though, THE prime element for a quality single player RPG is the story, and bethesda simply fails at it.

[xgiovedi]

This is hard. I love the entire Fallout series, especially 3 (I may be rare in that) and I really loved Dragon Age: Origins. But if we're just comparing Fallout 3 to DA:O...

Dragon Age has characters (your companions) that stick with you. You learn more about them and grow a love.hate relationship with them. The storyline is very set and you have one set goal. Sure, you can do sidequests, but to me, they got repetitive. The game is also very linear and really doesn't leave you much exploration. One could argue the size of the cities are large, but are they really? The biggest areas to me are the Deep Roads and the Brecilian Forest, bu that's only because they're dungeons. As I played, I knew that being a Grey Warden was important, but like Alistair said, I didn't know what it was *really* like to be a Warden with everyone else. I didn't sense how important Ferelden was to me as my home. I just knew I had a task.

Fallout 3, I don't know where to begin. The "main" story is very short, but still introduces several interesting characters that you can keep based on your Karma level (good to bad). The game play is also different because you can switch from first person to 3rd person. The VATS system (which is optional), is also pretty awesome. I also love how you can have your own house and decorate it, have so many different outfits to get and collect absolutely everything around you. You are the Lone Wanderer and you can be anything you want. You can help people or sell them to slavers. You can be a savior or a huge jerk. If you're a savior, people look up to you and give you items to aid you on your quest. The amount of side-quests is insanity as well.  The game keeps you playing for a very long time. The modding community is also great (I can be Kamen Rider!) and I like how Bethesda leaves it all open for modding purposes. I'm sure we'll eventually see that from DA:O... someday.

These are just my personal feelings on them, as a lover of both. I edited some parts out because I misread the topic title

Modifié par xgiovedi, 15 janvier 2010 - 06:59 .

[Glorfindel7]

The story in DA:O leads you down a path. There really is only one path, sometimes you have a little choice, mostly you can choose A or, well, A. Take Orzammar, a series of linear dungeons that must be completed in a linear order with a boss to beat at the end of each step. BW created a very engrossing story and a very nice path indeed with lots of fun and/or entertaining features. But I find the inability of my characters to climb a 2 foot high hill to be really immersion breaking.



Bethesda and BW create very different style games that will have distinctly different appeals to different people. I enjoy the BW style but my preference is for the Bethesda style. To be fair, the modded content in Bethesda games is critical; to be fair, Bethesda makes their games to be highly moddable; waiting to see whether DA:O will get much modded content. Does that make FO3 or TES4 better than DA:O? Maybe for me, maybe relative to my preferences - but absolutely? Absolutely not.