He's a famous person, he's obligated to be a tool.
I'm really sad about the character Duncan
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#27
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 08:32
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Yeah, I was hoping Duncan would be around a while, but I can see why it had to be that way. Still, maybe he'll appear in Awakenings, heh, not that I want to say anything spoilerish, but based on The Calling it IS a possibility (unlikely...but definitely within the realm of possibility if you've read the book).
#28
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 08:34
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thegreateski wrote...
He's a famous person, he's obligated to be a tool.
He's a tool even in excess of usual celebrity tools. A super ginormous unfailingly toolish tool.
#29
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 08:40
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He is voiced by the same actor who voiced Al Mualim = instant win
His beard = insta win.
Duncan is awesome.
His beard = insta win.
Duncan is awesome.
#30
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 08:49
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
He is voiced by the same actor who voiced Al Mualim = instant win
His beard = insta win.
Duncan is awesome.
But that means he has connections to the Templars. Perhaps he is still alive but manipulating our minds with a piece of eden?
#31
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 08:58
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Duncan isn't exploiting your situation as much as he could. He didn't force anyone into the order who had a real chance to survive his situation anyhow.
Dale was infected.
Human surrounded by enemies.
Dwarf noble left to die in the deep roads.
Dwarf common sentenced to death.
City elf about to be executed.
Mage about to become a tranquil.
He could have demanded each of them to join by the right of conscription before they were in a desperate position (sometimes weakening his position for the future, like making Bryce Cousland a foe).
Nothing comes for free. Only Jory was a questionable recruit right from the start and his death can be seen as a crime (I really didn't care seeing him killed. GW are more important than this deserter). He just joined the Wardens without being in a bad position. Alister was unhappy were he was. Daveth was to be executed too.
I don't think Duncan pushed it too hard. He took those who had nothing to loose. Fair deal. Jory was just written so that you had to feel that was an injustice. Wife, kids, a nice guy, just to afraid to do what was needed and then he gets killed... boohoo... worst written character in the game, just added for the effect.
Dale was infected.
Human surrounded by enemies.
Dwarf noble left to die in the deep roads.
Dwarf common sentenced to death.
City elf about to be executed.
Mage about to become a tranquil.
He could have demanded each of them to join by the right of conscription before they were in a desperate position (sometimes weakening his position for the future, like making Bryce Cousland a foe).
Nothing comes for free. Only Jory was a questionable recruit right from the start and his death can be seen as a crime (I really didn't care seeing him killed. GW are more important than this deserter). He just joined the Wardens without being in a bad position. Alister was unhappy were he was. Daveth was to be executed too.
I don't think Duncan pushed it too hard. He took those who had nothing to loose. Fair deal. Jory was just written so that you had to feel that was an injustice. Wife, kids, a nice guy, just to afraid to do what was needed and then he gets killed... boohoo... worst written character in the game, just added for the effect.
#32
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 09:03
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biomag wrote...
Duncan isn't exploiting your situation as much as he could. He didn't force anyone into the order who had a real chance to survive his situation anyhow.
Dale was infected.
Human surrounded by enemies.
Dwarf noble left to die in the deep roads.
Dwarf common sentenced to death.
City elf about to be executed.
Mage about to become a tranquil.
No one said anything about my Mages becoming Tranquil. Ever.
Then again, I did turn Jowan in to Irving both times, just because his whining annoyed me so much...
#33
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 10:27
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i didn't like him.. thought he was a complete utter *insert word of choice*
#34
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 10:35
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Maybe Duncan Became A DarkSpawn Boss and He Kills All of Thedas...Then Comes Through Our TV Like The Ring (movie) And Owns This World..Then Moves On To The BioWare Top Secret Planet
#35
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 10:47
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Greigor didn't like the fact that the PC mage went where (s)he didn't belong. By turning Jowan in to Irving, It's more Irving than Duncan that causes Greigor to back down (Do we not reward loyal service? Or some such), and your are moved from the tower to keep YOU out of Greigor's way until he calms down.
Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?
Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?
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Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 10:55
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A Golden Dragon wrote...
Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?
Well, since it's not really him...
He does have a shield stored in Denerim, though, so I suppose he can use one.
#37
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 10:58
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
He is voiced by the same actor who voiced Al Mualim = instant win
His beard = insta win.
Duncan is awesome.
Same guy did the voice for Splinter in the old old TMNT cartoons.
That makes him doubly awesome in my book.
#38
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 11:03
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Miliat wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
He is voiced by the same actor who voiced Al Mualim = instant win
His beard = insta win.
Duncan is awesome.
Same guy did the voice for Splinter in the old old TMNT cartoons.
That makes him doubly awesome in my book.
LOL you're right! I can remember now. Wow.
#39
Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 11:28
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Duncan =/= awesome. Seriously, he goes around "recruiting" people to be Grey Wardens but he doesn't tell you 1) You might die during the joining 2) your lifespan will be shortened to just 30 more years after the joining 3) If you back out of the joining I will stab you, yet I conscripted you to be here and you had no choice so tough ******. I understand when Riordhan says: "but there must always BE Grey Wardens." just don't expect me to have a fanboi love fest for the guy.
I have more sympathy for Jory- because he really got the raw end of the deal. Do you realize why Duncan killed Jory? Because if Jory lived word could spread about the Joining being lethal. If people knew that recruitment numbers would definitely drop.
To Duncan the ends justify the means- stopping the Blight at all costs- even murder.
Would you join your countrys military if that was their recruitment process?
"Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?"
Very well done. I wonder if Bioware did that intentionally, or if it was just a modelling accident.
I have more sympathy for Jory- because he really got the raw end of the deal. Do you realize why Duncan killed Jory? Because if Jory lived word could spread about the Joining being lethal. If people knew that recruitment numbers would definitely drop.
To Duncan the ends justify the means- stopping the Blight at all costs- even murder.
Would you join your countrys military if that was their recruitment process?
"Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?"
Very well done. I wonder if Bioware did that intentionally, or if it was just a modelling accident.
Modifié par StaticSilence, 15 janvier 2010 - 11:39 .
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Posté 15 janvier 2010 - 11:44
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StaticSilence wrote...
Duncan =/= awesome. Seriously, he goes around "recruiting" people to be Grey Wardens but he doesn't tell you 1) You might die during the joining 2) your lifespan will be shortened to just 30 more years after the joining 3) If you back out of the joining I will stab you, yet I conscripted you to be here and you had no choice so tough ******. I understand when Riordhan says: "but there must always BE Grey Wardens." just don't expect me to have a fanboi love fest for the guy.
I have more sympathy for Jory- because he really got the raw end of the deal. Do you realize why Duncan killed Jory? Because if Jory lived word could spread about the Joining being lethal. If people knew that recruitment numbers would definitely drop.
To Duncan the ends justify the means- stopping the Blight at all costs- even murder.
Would you join your countrys military if that was their recruitment process?
"Anyways, did anyone notice that, in each Origin Story, and Ostagar, Duncan Dual-wields, but that in the Fade (Broken Circle), he uses a Shield?"
Very well done. I wonder if Bioware did that intentionally, or if it was just a modelling accident.
It's intentional. You can find Duncan's shield late in the game as a gift for alistair.
