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EA wins Worst Company in America award again...

Débuté par IllusiveManJr , avril 09 2013 05:30

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#576
slimgrin
Posté 19 avril 2013 - 12:44

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 http://www.techdirt....ing-money.shtml

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fchopin
Posté 19 avril 2013 - 09:00

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slimgrin wrote...

 http://www.techdirt....ing-money.shtml



I think EA is going for 3rd time lucky.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 12:47

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I have little sympathy for people who have, for whatever reason, stockpiles of Pet Society currency.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 01:38

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ibbikiookami wrote...

They are the most plain obvious money grabbers and treat you with utter disrespect.


A: Untrue. EA has never been a money grabber any more than any other company. They've never treated me with disrepect.

Remember, "I don't like this game" is not disrepect. It's your problem.

I hated, hated that Black Box was switched over for Criterion Games. Criterion makes Burnout, not NFS. It p*sses me off. But that's my problem, not EA's.

B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 04:29

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slimgrin wrote...

 http://www.techdirt....ing-money.shtml


Let this be a lesson for those who are attached to online games.

When the servers are shut down, you just simply lose your game characters and all the virtual currencies that you have bought with your hard-earned money.

Even games like the new SimCity will eventually become unplayable when EA decides to shut down the servers to make room for new titles.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 05:20

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EntropicAngel wrote...
B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.


If that's your belief, then I can see why you think they've done no wrong.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 08:10

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Degs29 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.


If that's your belief, then I can see why you think they've done no wrong.

Is this supposes to be an argument?  Well, uh, if you believe the opposite, then I can see why you do think they've done something wrong!  Yeah, that'll show you.

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Posté 19 avril 2013 - 10:47

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EntropicAngel wrote...
B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.


I'm not sure what you mean.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:05

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Maverick827 wrote...

Degs29 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.


If that's your belief, then I can see why you think they've done no wrong.

Is this supposes to be an argument?  Well, uh, if you believe the opposite, then I can see why you do think they've done something wrong!  Yeah, that'll show you.


Obviously it means I think there should be a concept of respect or disrepect with regards to industry.  I wasn't even bashing your point of view.  I basically said that I could understand your point of view, even if I disagree.  Not sure why you felt that required sarcasm.  :huh:

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 03:02

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In Exile wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
B. They're a company. Not a person. There is no concept of respect or disrespect.


I'm not sure what you mean.


I think he means that EA is alright in his book. Bewildering, I know, but to each his own.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 03:37

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In Exile wrote...

I'm not sure what you mean.


Was N@zi Germany evil?

Of course not. There were evil people IN Germany--Hitler, his leaders, whatever--but it's absurd to actually call the country itself "evil" or "good." People* are evil, not things.

EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 03:40

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Degs29 wrote...

If that's your belief, then I can see why you think they've done no wrong.


I don't necessarily think they've done no wrong.

For one, I don't like how far they've taken the LGBT thing--it's not something incidental, EA is deliberately taking a particular stance on the issue. I have reasons for that which I'd be happy to elaborate on, but are irrelevant with regards to this.

I just don't assign morality to inanimate objects. To a word on a piece of paper. To brick and mortar.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 03:57

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EntropicAngel wrote...
People* are evil, not things.

EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.


Not touching the Godwin. Otherwise, things can very clearly have institutional policies which we can identify as moral or immoral, and which can be the result of what immoral people would (or do) do. 

It's why an institution can be criminally or tortiously liable, even as the individuals responsible for leading it are. 

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:06

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In Exile wrote...

Not touching the Godwin. Otherwise, things can very clearly have institutional policies which we can identify as moral or immoral, and which can be the result of what immoral people would (or do) do. 

It's why an institution can be criminally or tortiously liable, even as the individuals responsible for leading it are. 


I'm disappointed that we can't discuss things because they've gained a stigmatism.

You're describing laws--but laws have little to do with morality.

But regardless of that, I still don't understand how someone can call them evil or whatever. That's like calling a car inherently evil because someone uses it to kill another. That's like calling a cell phone inherently evil because someone made an IED. That's like calling guns  inherently evil because someone used one to kill. It's illogical nonsense. These things have no will, these things don't even have minds or sentience. To ascribe morality--a primarily sentient term--to, again, an inanimate object sounds incomprehensible.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:09

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EntropicAngel wrote...
*People* are evil, not things.
EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

What are you talking about? EA isn't a thing, corporations are people.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:14

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bobobo878 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
*People* are evil, not things.
EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

What are you talking about? EA isn't a thing, corporations are people.


Philisophical argument perhaps, but I'd say no, coporations by their nature are not people. That's the problem.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:15

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bobobo878 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
*People* are evil, not things.
EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

What are you talking about? EA isn't a thing, corporations are people.


And w/ one swift blow, bobo manages to topple EA's argument.:P Oh, I kid EA.

Modifié par Ravensword, 20 avril 2013 - 04:15 .

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:18

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slimgrin wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
*People* are evil, not things.
EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

What are you talking about? EA isn't a thing, corporations are people.


Philisophical argument perhaps, but I'd say no, coporations by their nature are not people. That's the problem.


Corporate personhood is the problem.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:23

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Ravensword wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
*People* are evil, not things.
EA is a thing. EA therefore cannot have a morality.

What are you talking about? EA isn't a thing, corporations are people.


Philisophical argument perhaps, but I'd say no, coporations by their nature are not people. That's the problem.


Corporate personhood is the problem.


No, personal corporatehood is the problem. People like to use the law to pretend that they are corporations-limited liability, bailouts, etc. . This cannot go on.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:29

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Well now we're all confused.

#596
Ravensword
Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:38

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And who's fault is that?

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:40

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I'm not saying that EA is evil, but as a person, EA is capable of being evil.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:43

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bobobo878 wrote...

I'm not saying that EA is evil, but as a person, EA is capable of being evil.


Alistair: Hey!:(

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 04:45

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EA is a legal entity like a person is a legal entity. Both can be held tortiously and criminally liable. In effect Companies are "people" in the legal sense, governed by the minds of the executive board, like a person.

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Posté 20 avril 2013 - 05:08

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billy the squid wrote...

EA is a legal entity like a person is a legal entity. Both can be held tortiously and criminally liable. In effect Companies are "people" in the legal sense, governed by the minds of the executive board, like a person.


But by their structure, can't it be argued they become a seperate entitly apart from the people that created it?

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