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[Dave of Canada]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

The ultimate example of first world problems.

It's an american poll, of course it's first world problems. Had Bank of America won, it still would've been "first world problems".

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 10 avril 2013 - 12:27 .

[Maverick827]

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's an american poll, of course it's first world problems. Had Bank of America won, it still would've been "first world problems".

I guess we have to coin a new phrase: zeroth world problems.

Overdosing wrote...

Oh God, no. I swear EA would just be obliterated if that happens.

I doubt it.  People bash EA; people still buy EA products.  People say they're going to boycott; a small minority actually do.  Most people who attack Microsoft still use Windows even if OS X would suit them fine.  People who speak out against WalMart still shop there, sometimes eagerly when there's a nice sale going.

The Magic: the Gathering community is so belligerent and resistant to every new set that comes out that they have a saying: "Wizard's [the game developer] could put twenty dollar bills in packs of cards and people would complain because they were folded."  The game continues to grow, and a month later people who complained will be touting a deck with a ton of new cards.

No one who plays World of Warcraft actually likes World of Warcraft.  It's a paradox.

In the end, most people are just full of hot air.  Though I like to go around these parts calling people children, many of the people who I'm wrong about will move on and get over it, and the ones I am right about will eventually be distracted by something shiny.

Modifié par Maverick827, 10 avril 2013 - 12:49 .

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Congrats EA! You've overcome a lot, ignored all the naysayers, and won a tremendous award.

I'm surprised people still buy their products. I was even cringing when Brian Fargo jumped on their Origin/Kickstarter offer.

[Dean_the_Young]

You know, I'm a bit skeptical about the Golden Poo award or any similar 'Worst Company' award for Bioware because, well...

I can't say that I've ever heard of Bioware routinely sending large numbers of people into places with the expectation of them being shot at. While paying them well below median wage. And not paying overtime, despite reserving the right and frequently using employees for twelve-hour shifts, seven days a week, for a year, plus back-to-back-to-back shifts as context demands.

Now, granted, maybe I'm missing some of the horror stories as well, but I'm pretty sure Bioware doesn't have an informal system of corporal or other non-legal punishments either, and I don't think they can dock your pay for months simply for losing workplace items. (You might get fired, but that's a different thing.)

And, well, there's a distinct lack of people trying to kill you when you work at Bioware. Flamers and trolls are annoying, sure, but it sure beats a workplace environment where your harshest critics lob high explosive at your home and try and kill you in your sleep.


Just saying: whatever Bioware is, it could probably be a lot worse quite easily. Which, to me, would argue against it being the 'worst' company.


(But then, I guess the the award isn't about the worst place to work.)

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 10 avril 2013 - 12:50 .

[Ridwan]

Maverick827 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's an american poll, of course it's first world problems. Had Bank of America won, it still would've been "first world problems".

I guess we have to coin a new phrase: zeroth world problems.

Overdosing wrote...

Oh God, no. I swear EA would just be obliterated if that happens.

I doubt it.  People bash EA; people still buy EA products.  People say they're going to boycott; a small minority actually do.  Most people who attack Microsoft still use Windows even if OS X would suit them fine.  People who speak out against WalMart still shop there, sometimes eagerly when there's a nice sale going.

The Magic: the Gathering community is so belligerent and resistant to every new set that comes out that they have a saying: "Wizard's [the game developer] could put twenty dollar bills in packs of cards and people would complain because they were folded."  The game continues to grow, and a month later people who complained will be touting a deck with a ton of new cards.

No one who plays World of Warcraft actually likes World of Warcraft.  It's a paradox.

In the end, most people are just full of hot air.  Though I like to go around these parts calling people children, many of the people who I'm wrong about will move on and get over it, and the ones I am right about will eventually be distracted by something shiny.

Throwing money away must be the definition of an adult in your world.

[RedArmyShogun]

Minus all the preaching here.. has anyone minus VW botherd to see who else was in the runnings?

[Pacifien]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Minus all the preaching here.. has anyone minus VW botherd to see who else was in the runnings?

I have. EA beat Ticketmaster. It's truly a crime of epic proportions.

[Noctis Augustus]

Is this surprising?

[bmwcrazy]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Of course, not forgeting that all the while these people that hate EA so much end up spending so much time on an EA message board.  Always an interesting observation in my opinion.

There's a difference between haters and dissatisfied customers. Let's hope you can tell the difference between the two.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I don't know.  "We could do better" I think

EA said "We can do better" in 2008, and for a while they were. But now they're back to their old tricks again. I don't want to see EA go under, even if I don't like the way the company does business. All I want is to be treated fairly and for EA to not take advantage their customers every chance they get. But the problem is I know that's not going to happen. This acknowledgement from Peter Moore is a wasted effort because I know EA is going to continue to treat their customers unfairly and take advantage where they can.

I think you missed the joke.

I think so.

[Allan Schumacher]

M25105 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Throwing money away must be the definition of an adult in your world.

Both of you can now stop.  Feel free to take it to PMs.

[Allan Schumacher]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I think you missed the joke.

I think so.

The other chap congratulated us on crushing the competition.  It was subtle, but I was joking that we could have crushed them more so, and that "we could do better."

Mostly I have been taking this in stride.  On various social media I proudly shared the successful title defense.

[The Don's Hound]

I wonder if it's those dumbasses who are still getting worked up over Dragon Age two and Mass Effect three's ending. They seem to be the majority of the people who get worked up about EA these days.

[Marixus99.9]

Pacifien wrote...

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Minus all the preaching here.. has anyone minus VW botherd to see who else was in the runnings?

I have. EA beat Ticketmaster. It's truly a crime of epic proportions.

I like Apple beating Microsoft. Not saying it's justified or anything, I just like it.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I think you missed the joke.

I think so.

The other chap congratulated us on crushing the competition.  It was subtle, but I was joking that we could have crushed them more so, and that "we could do better."

Mostly I have been taking this in stride.  On various social media I proudly shared the successful title defense.

Yeah, that went over my head. It's probably best to take it in stride. Perhaps Peter should have done the same. Actions speak louder than words. I would like to see EA make the changes rather than talk about them.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 10 avril 2013 - 01:22 .

[bmwcrazy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I love those statements. You're on an EA forum, bashing EA and claiming that they're trying to silence you. Just think about what you're doing for a moment.


I'm starting to wonder if there are any adults that game. This hobby is looking less and less pleasing, if only because of the creatures that I share it with...

Since that's the direct reply for my post from Allen, I feel I'm obligated to clear a few things up, EntropicAngel.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

bmwcrazy wrote...

Of course. After all you work for the company that you are proud of and they pay your salary.

Sweet, I'm just a shill!

Thanks!

At least EA grants you the place to vent about it (these forums).

But then, we're all about silenting dissent (which is why this thread is still open and whatnot).

I love statements like that form you too, EntropicAngel.

Just who excactly is bashing EA and claiming they are trying to silence whomever?

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 10 avril 2013 - 01:25 .

[Allan Schumacher]

This isn't the equivalent of someone saying, "You're a bad person!" This is, fairly literally, someone saying, "You're worse than Hitler! Oh, and Stalin. And Marilyn Manson!"

I don't think it's quite that extreme actually.

It's a poll where, in my opinion, gamers are typically well organized and highly likely to see this type of thing, and they use it as a vehicle to register their disdain. The principal reason for this is because of the gaffes EA has had in recent past.

I agree that using the Consumerist poll is probably not superbly productive, it is likely a reasonably higher profile than just complaining here. I'm sure the Consumerist loved it though, as they even felt like going toe to toe with Moore.