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[Pacifien]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Marixus99.9 wrote...
I like Apple beating Microsoft. Not saying it's justified or anything, I just like it.

I think it's a shame, but this is hardly the place for MORE arguments.

I remember when proprietary hardware was a bad thing.

Oh wait, you were trying to say less arguments, not more.

[Cyonan]

There's no way they're legitimately the worst company in the US.

I mean, it's a company that has cost people billions of dollars versus a company that makes optional entertainment that has done some questionable things. There's a very clear worst between those two, and it's not EA.

That said, a lot of people I talked to that voted in that poll said they voted for EA despite thinking that BofA is worse, because they think EA will actually care about being voted the worst company 2 years in a row and might try to change, while BofA will just laugh.

If Peter Moore was sincere in his promise that they will do better that is great for them. Unfortunately my belief in what they say isn't exactly at an all time high right now, so I'll have to see some action.

[C9316]

The way I see it, at least EA could possibly turn themselves around and clean some sh*t up; bank of america would keep doing what it does regardless..

[Allan Schumacher]

bmwcrazy wrote...

I love statements like that form you too, EntropicAngel.

Just who excactly is bashing EA and claiming they are trying to silence whomever?

Actually that part of the post was more generally addressed to many of the EA naysayers on the forum in general, not the specifics of your post.  I guess I was misinterpreted.

I suppose I misinterpreted you when you were merely suggesting that my opinion was more a consequence of not wanting to speak out against my boss and remain employed.

Maybe I was reading too much into it.  I suppose I wouldn't be the first person to have done so.

It doesn't seem like EntropicAngel is actually accusing you of it either.  He actually removed the rest of the context from the post to disassociate the part which was in response to your post.  Perhaps he did interpret me correctly in doing so?  I wonder if it's led to you reading too much into the words that were actually used.

Here's the thing, I felt insulted by your post about your implication, and responded with some emotion.  To which you then felt the need to clarify what it was you were implying.  Note what happened... I initially felt insulted... and perhaps read more into it based on my opinion of you at the moment.  I responded with a more emotional response than I probably should have.  Given your post actually made me angry, I started to rant about more general things that I often see on this forum, as a result of my emotional reaction.

Like J. Reezy stated, it was a general comment.  My post wasn't even so much a direct response to you, but rather just a frame of reference for my frustration.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 10 avril 2013 - 01:37 .

[AresKeith]

Things like this affect companies like EA lot more than companies like BoA and other that's part of the reason why they got voted worst company twice

As others already said

[bmwcrazy]

J. Reezy wrote...

I'm sure that was more of a general statement. It has happened in the past. Those type of comments, I mean.

Right.
I'll be amazed if anyone in this thread has said anything along the lines of EA is trying to silence people. 

[TurianRebel212]

haha, the evil empire strikes again!!! Yeah, EA sucks. Pretty common knowledge. I think bank of america should be right up there as well, and maybe Apple- all those poor asians making all those hipsters their iphones and ipads, while they live in poverty and jump of cliffs. Now, all you apple hipster go to starbucks and have a half fat, non foam, half whipped hazzlenut latte while you write your "novel". Okay, off soapbox.


But yeah, EA is a dog. But a rich and powerful dog.

[chunkyman]

The fact that EA has commented on this "award" will ensure that they win next year, too. The people I've talked to about why they voted for EA goes something along the line of "Well, EA might actually respond to and care about the negative award, whereas Bank of America and other companies won't care in even the slightest capacity".

If I were in charge of EA, I would just ignore the "award" entirely so the gaming community wouldn't have the incentive of provoking reactions out of them, and thus lose some of the motivation to vote for EA as the worst company in America in the first place.

Modifié par chunkyman, 10 avril 2013 - 02:04 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Game companies are glad that they receive a "game of the year" award and use that in marketing. Obviously a Golden Poo is nothing to be proud of, but I think it is too late to rub it under the carpet. It damages not only the company, but it also damages the way non-gamers perceive the gaming industry.

Gamers, however, know that there are other companies which do not make the mistakes EA made. And from time to time it is good to highlight that.

To me the Golden Poo shows EA's image. Without any force to push bad companies back, these companies continue on their path. Even if the Golden Poo is inflated by DA2's rushed state, ME3's ending or Sim City's failure, it is a sign on the wall that EA keeps ignoring criticism and at best hopes damage control will take care of it. There is a problem with that approach, though: Gamers are much like elephants. There's nothing wrong with their long term memory.

[Lunch Box1912]

If they'd just admit they botched ME3's ending instead of going into damage control I think a lot of people wouldn't be so angry.

[slimgrin]

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

If they'd just admit they botched ME3's ending instead of going into damage control I think a lot of people wouldn't be so angry.

Bioware's writers botched the ending, not EA.

[Eternal Napalm]

EA. Back to back champs, huh?

Congrats. That is what you get for your continued lies and trolling of my hobby. Stop ruining good IPs and companies.

[Eternal Napalm]

slimgrin wrote...

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

If they'd just admit they botched ME3's ending instead of going into damage control I think a lot of people wouldn't be so angry.

Bioware's writers botched the ending, not EA.

Very true. Although botched is kind. Man, I miss Karpyshyn.

Modifié par Eternal Napalm, 10 avril 2013 - 02:19 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

slimgrin wrote...

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

If they'd just admit they botched ME3's ending instead of going into damage control I think a lot of people wouldn't be so angry.

Bioware's writers botched the ending, not EA.

That's a funny one. Usually people like to attribute negative traits to EA and positive ones to BW. You'll get the same type of response from me, though. The thing is, of course, that it really doesn't matter whether you call them BW or EA. For all intents and purposes BW and EA are the same company. The time that EA was just a publisher of BW's games is over. BW is a full division of EA. And they have been for some time.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 10 avril 2013 - 02:28 .

[Allan Schumacher]

bmwcrazy wrote...
Right.
I'll be amazed if anyone in this thread has said anything along the lines of EA is trying to silence people. 

Well, far be it for me to not defend myself!

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/13/index/16499232/3#16500018

Also prepare for this thread to be locked down because BiowarEA wont let
a thread filled with haters, homophobes, and people who attack their
"valid" work stay up

[The Don's Hound]

This thread.... I no longer have any words for it, wait, here's a few: I can't wait for it to be locked.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I am very against EA in many things but I have dealt with Bank Of America and I would take the worst EA has to offer over BoA any day. 

The anti-EA side of me is glad that they won it because from that viewpoint, they deserve it. 

However, rationally speaking, to me personally, EA is the worst gaming company in America not worst company in America. 

The reason they get voted as such is because most gamers are online as opposed to most of the people who have been screwed over by BoA.  The poll should have been "Worst Company In America As Voted By People Who Have Interent Access". That would be more descriptive. 

Having said that, this glorious achievement should not just be forgotten or disregarded by EA. EA is the only gaming company on that list. That alone says volumes about them. 2K is not there and neither are companies like Blizzard or Atari. The fact that it won the award says even more when it comes to EA's position on the internet, among majority of the gamers and among some of the non gamers. 

I also don't think being making homophobic statements have anything to do with their result in this. Almost all of the video game flops and mess ups that made the mainstream media in the past  few years can be attributed to EA or one of the companies under it. Almost all the sensationally bad news when it comes to gaming will have EA in it somewhere. 

Instead of being ignorant to it there are some obvious ways EA can redeem themselves. Not pushing out games as fast as possible, not pushing out DLCs every now & then, reducing micortransactions, cutting off DRM and making EA games available on other platform other than Origin would be good moves.

We can all agree a minimum of 3 years is required when it comes to developing a hit AAA game. Emphasize on the minimum. Bioshock Infinite took 5years +, DIshonored took even longer, Dragon Age Origins took 6 years or so, etc. Yes some of us get if that you are trying to recover from the 2008 recession which hit your stock prices but pushing out games like you do does not work. There is plenty of evidence for that. 

Also microtransactions should not be tacked on a single player game. No & never. That is just dumb. Multiplayer, fine but give the players the option to buy what they want  ( ME3 RnG remember ?). 

DLCs are downloadable content that is supposed to expand on the original name, not content that is cut out on purpose and then made into DLC. From Ashes anyone ? If you want an example of how to do DLCs, look at Bethesda. They make actual DLCs where none of it is cut content but actual expansions. They  actually release some new stuff for free sometimes (horse combat, high resolution textures, a new difficulty)

EA should recognize a few things when it comes to Origin. People dislike it. If they are going to make it good or anywhere as good as Steam, it is going to take time. Yes Steam was in that situation a long time ago but it was a long time  ago where gaming was not as widespread  as it is now.  Until then they should let their games be available on other platforms until they have sorted their issues with Origin. 

Lastly, make your games moddable. There is one true fact when it comes to the gaming community :- We are never satisfied with the content you give. We will always have ideas for contents & make new contents for ourselvs and for other games. Many times, these contents surpass what the original developers do themselves when you take into account the resources like money that the modders have. Accept that, don't treat us like we don't know anything. Don't be afraid of our capabilities (Dice). 

*I am kinda tired of hearing things like business must do what they can to make a profit. That sounds ridiculous. That is like saying politicians must do what they can to stay in power. Sure that happens a lot but it does not end well. 

Cheers 

Modifié par The Sin, 10 avril 2013 - 02:41 .

[Angrywolves]

How many Bioware employees have left since EA bought the company, was EA responsible for their departure , and has that affected the quality of their recent. If the quality of the games was diminished by EA's acquisition , it would give us adequate reason to hate EA.

[Rawgrim]

I am still sore about EA ruining Origin and Westwood (look what origin is now). I`d hate for the same thing to happen to Bioware.

[Sanunes]

Angrywolves wrote...

How many Bioware employees have left since EA bought the company, was EA responsible for their departure , and has that affected the quality of their recent. If the quality of the games was diminished by EA's acquisition , it would give us adequate reason to hate EA.

There really isn't a way to tell that for sure.  Even if the employee said that EA's decision was the reason who says they would have stayed with BioWare any longer if they were self publishing or even part of Activision or BioWare would make similar decisions that people feel EA forced upon them.

[TurianRebel212]

I think winning this award back to back say's it all to EA and their subsidiaries. They have issues. They better hope they get a much, much, much needed boost by BF4, otherwise EA is in trouble. Big time.