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[Erakleitos]

Personally i'm about to end my fifth playthrough, and i couldn't avoid to notice that the word "playthrough" it's quite popular in this forum's dictonary. It's the first time i play a game for more than three times... not even BG1/2 or Icewind Dale 1/2 so well, kudos to Bioware.

<3

PS: In DA2 please add a difficulty level harder than nightmare, with aggro reset, more magic enemies etc etc ;p

[Xena_Shepard]

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

[szathmab]

I would not say of all time because KOTOR is the hands down winner

[cynicalsaint1]

I did 3 playthroughs before I moved on to another game, and I'm sort of slowing working on my 4th in the background of other games at the moment.



So yeah, I can't remember last time I gave a game this many playthroughs in such a short amount of time, especially given its length.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

Nw i hope YOU are being sarcastic, since it is possible to solo nightmare with a rogue and not cheat.  Well, I think..about halfway through now.  High Dragon was a pain.

[tessakc]

Currently I'm on my fourth playthrough myself, so it hasn't topped Mass Effect for me yet, but in the end it will definitely get more playthroughs.



On a technicality though, I've played through Crono Trigger close to 16 times, and that's just on my DS, so I'm not sure I can call it the most replayable RPG game in history. I still consider it the best I've played to date though, as no game has ever drawn me in as much as DA has, nor elicited as many emotions as DA has.

[DragonRageGT]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

Nw i hope YOU are being sarcastic, since it is possible to solo nightmare with a rogue and not cheat.  Well, I think..about halfway through now.  High Dragon was a pain.

And there are people who solo'ed in NM with a Mage (AW/BM) and 2 handed warrior even! (Templar/champion). That I know of. There may be even more solo builts out there!

Xena, after you finished a run in normal, try it Hard. After that, NM will be really easy, not without a challenge but easy nonetheless, since experience with the game is a powerful weapon in DA. If not the most powerful weapon.

Modifié par RageGT, 15 janvier 2010 - 05:47 .

[SleeplessInSigil]

 While DA does excel in that department, I would also count Planescape:Torment, some Ultimas, and YES, Chrono Trigger, as well, in the most-replayable RPGs category.

[Bibdy]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

What in the hell are you smoking?

I don't think the replayability value is that great, to be honest. Sure, there are slight differences through the game due to the Origins, but you see pretty much all the content by playing through twice, picking each of the 2 different options along the way in each major plotline, then quickly run through the other 4 Origins you didn't do, which I did, and don't really have the will to go through the whole thing again.

The value for money is simply amazing, thanks to the toolset, though. I've probably put more hours into the toolset now, than the game itself.

[Demonic Spoon]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

There are people who SOLO nightmare. It's very possible. It's just that it usually involves exploiting the **** out of the game and the AI, so it doesn't seem like it would be possible from your perspective.

Modifié par Demonic Spoon, 15 janvier 2010 - 05:51 .

[Dr Bawbag]

Considering the length of time it been out, no it isn't, not by a long shot. I found Morrowind, Oblivion (with mods) and planescape a lot more deserving of my time. hell, i must have lost a year or two playing Morrowind.

[Xena_Shepard]

Bibdy wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

What in the hell are you smoking?

I don't think the replayability value is that great, to be honest. Sure, there are slight differences through the game due to the Origins, but you see pretty much all the content by playing through twice, picking each of the 2 different options along the way in each major plotline, then quickly run through the other 4 Origins you didn't do, which I did, and don't really have the will to go through the whole thing again.

The value for money is simply amazing, thanks to the toolset, though. I've probably put more hours into the toolset now, than the game itself.

OK, let me rephrase what I said:

Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without USING A BROKEN BUILD or cheating?

[Xena_Shepard]

Demonic Spoon wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

There are people who SOLO nightmare. It's very possible. It's just that it usually involves exploiting the **** out of the game and the AI, so it doesn't seem like it would be possible from your perspective.

Indeed because from my perspective if I'm going to break the game, why not just cheat? There's no difference.

[Xena_Shepard]

Dr Bawbag wrote...

Considering the length of time it been out, no it isn't, not by a long shot. I found Morrowind, Oblivion (with mods) and planescape a lot more deserving of my time. hell, i must have lost a year or two playing Morrowind.

I lost a year or two just modding Morrowind, I had to tape the cover back on my "The Morrowind Prophecies" guide book after it fell off from use.

However, I was highly disappointed with Oblivion, they took out/changed a lot of the elements that I really loved about Morrowind.

[Bullets McDeath]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Bibdy wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

What in the hell are you smoking?

I don't think the replayability value is that great, to be honest. Sure, there are slight differences through the game due to the Origins, but you see pretty much all the content by playing through twice, picking each of the 2 different options along the way in each major plotline, then quickly run through the other 4 Origins you didn't do, which I did, and don't really have the will to go through the whole thing again.

The value for money is simply amazing, thanks to the toolset, though. I've probably put more hours into the toolset now, than the game itself.

OK, let me rephrase what I said:

Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without USING A BROKEN BUILD or cheating?

LOL, yes. It is not possible to SOLO nightmare without serious minmaxing. You can probably still do it without exploits, but that depends on your defenition of exploits.

But as far as a regular game where you recruit a full party, yes, Nightmare is beatable without cheating.

[Xena_Shepard]

outlaworacle wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Bibdy wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

What in the hell are you smoking?

I don't think the replayability value is that great, to be honest. Sure, there are slight differences through the game due to the Origins, but you see pretty much all the content by playing through twice, picking each of the 2 different options along the way in each major plotline, then quickly run through the other 4 Origins you didn't do, which I did, and don't really have the will to go through the whole thing again.

The value for money is simply amazing, thanks to the toolset, though. I've probably put more hours into the toolset now, than the game itself.

OK, let me rephrase what I said:

Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without USING A BROKEN BUILD or cheating?

LOL, yes. It is not possible to SOLO nightmare without serious minmaxing. You can probably still do it without exploits, but that depends on your defenition of exploits.

But as far as a regular game where you recruit a full party, yes, Nightmare is beatable without cheating.

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

Modifié par Xena_Shepard, 15 janvier 2010 - 05:57 .

[Dr Bawbag]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Dr Bawbag wrote...

Considering the length of time it been out, no it isn't, not by a long shot. I found Morrowind, Oblivion (with mods) and planescape a lot more deserving of my time. hell, i must have lost a year or two playing Morrowind.

I lost a year or two just modding Morrowind, I had to tape the cover back on my "The Morrowind Prophecies" guide book after it fell off from use.

However, I was highly disappointed with Oblivion, they took out/changed a lot of the elements that I really loved about Morrowind.

That's why i only ever played Oblivion with mods.  Stuff like OOO change the game completly thus making it a very, very good game. 

[Demonic Spoon]

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

I wouldn't say THAT. I'm playing on Hard right now and it's giving me a pretty decent challenge. I could probably go on Nightmare if I had a bit better character or didn't mind reloading a bit more.

[Bibdy]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

Lol, yeah, this list of modifiers makes the game SOOOO DIFFICULT over normal mode

• You deal 5% less damage
• You suffer 5% more damage
• Your healing spells heal for 15% less
• You don't find as many healing potions

Man the game is just impossible, now

[Xena_Shepard]

Dr Bawbag wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Dr Bawbag wrote...

Considering the length of time it been out, no it isn't, not by a long shot. I found Morrowind, Oblivion (with mods) and planescape a lot more deserving of my time. hell, i must have lost a year or two playing Morrowind.

I lost a year or two just modding Morrowind, I had to tape the cover back on my "The Morrowind Prophecies" guide book after it fell off from use.

However, I was highly disappointed with Oblivion, they took out/changed a lot of the elements that I really loved about Morrowind.

Well I kind of have a personal rule that I don't mod games until I've beaten them once, but I'll make an exception for Oblivion, I just stopped playing it because I was so disappointed in it.

That's why i only ever played Oblivion with mods.  Stuff like OOO change the game completly thus making it a very, very good game. 

[Bullets McDeath]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

Well, that's assumptive and vauge. It's not. Unless you're calling me a cheater, in which case I would counter with "L2P n00b".   

As I said before, soloing is something completely different. But if you can't beat Nightmare with a full party without "playing unfairly" whatever the hell that is, it's because you suck ass, not because Nightmare is impossible.

Nightmare! It's not that hard. Really. Don't psyche yourself out.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 15 janvier 2010 - 06:02 .

[Xena_Shepard]

Only a 5% increase from Normal to Nightmare? Right...

[empetus]

Not for me. I usually only play through rpgs once anyway, but I do play them thoroughly and do everything and see everything on the one time through. Dragon Age I will probably play through a few of the origin stories after I'm done with my entire game play through, but I will stop playing the origin stories once it goes to Ostager, I would only want to see the original content in each story.



Honestly I would get bored playing through Dragon Age main campaign again, its all the same areas and monsters, the only difference would be in party makeup.

[Xena_Shepard]

outlaworacle wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Bibdy wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

I hope you're being sarcastic...Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without cheating?

What in the hell are you smoking?

I don't think the replayability value is that great, to be honest. Sure, there are slight differences through the game due to the Origins, but you see pretty much all the content by playing through twice, picking each of the 2 different options along the way in each major plotline, then quickly run through the other 4 Origins you didn't do, which I did, and don't really have the will to go through the whole thing again.

The value for money is simply amazing, thanks to the toolset, though. I've probably put more hours into the toolset now, than the game itself.

OK, let me rephrase what I said:

Is it even possible to play nightmare mode without USING A BROKEN BUILD or cheating?

LOL, yes. It is not possible to SOLO nightmare without serious minmaxing. You can probably still do it without exploits, but that depends on your defenition of exploits.

But as far as a regular game where you recruit a full party, yes, Nightmare is beatable without cheating.

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

Well, that's assumptive and vauge. It's not. Unless you're calling me a cheater, in which case I would counter with "L2P n00b".

Nightmare! It's not that hard. Really. Don't psyche yourself out.

I just play on Easy because as one game reviewer said. "When I go to play a game I want to relax and enjoy it,"

I did install a mod that makes Easy mod 30% harder I think, and it makes Normal mode 30% easier...I think, some percentage.

[Bibdy]

Have you even looked it up? Look here:

dragonage.gulbsoft.org/doku.php/difficulty

Don't believe it? You can go through the game's script files using the toolset, and confirm everything in that list, if you want. That's ALL that changes from Normal to Nightmare.

In other words, Bioware dropped the ball, big time, on the difficulty curve. The jump from Easy to Normal is insane, while the jump from Normal to Nightmare is trivial. But, its not a big deal, because we can mod it (console owners are SOL).

If its so damn difficult, why on earth do you think I made a mod to make the game WAAAY harder and have a link to it in my sig?