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[FlintlockJazz]

I like the game, and am trying to do multiple playthroughs, but no, I don't think it's the most replayable RPG in history. While you can go through choosing different options to get different ends, it still involves doing the same thing effectively, just choosing a different choice, plus after the Origin and up to Lothering it is railroaded to hell, so there is nothing much you can do differently there, it kills me as much as the Irenicus Dungeon at the start of BG2, but at least Chateau Irenicus didn't last so long!



But it does have replayability, modding should bring more to it like any game and completionists will love trying to get all the possible endings.

[Xena_Shepard]

empetus wrote...

Not for me. I usually only play through rpgs once anyway, but I do play them thoroughly and do everything and see everything on the one time through. Dragon Age I will probably play through a few of the origin stories after I'm done with my entire game play through, but I will stop playing the origin stories once it goes to Ostager, I would only want to see the original content in each story.

Honestly I would get bored playing through Dragon Age main campaign again, its all the same areas and monsters, the only difference would be in party makeup.

I really enjoy playing through Orzammar, I've always wanted to take an adventure in a real dwarven city. The only areas I really don't like are the Circle Tower and the Bercillian Forest.

[Xena_Shepard]

Bibdy wrote...

Have you even looked it up? Look here:

dragonage.gulbsoft.org/doku.php/difficulty

Don't believe it? You can go through the game's script files using the toolset, and confirm everything in that list, if you want. That's ALL that changes from Normal to Nightmare.

In other words, Bioware dropped the ball, big time, on the difficulty curve. The jump from Easy to Normal is insane, while the jump from Normal to Nightmare is trivial. But, its not a big deal, because we can mod it (console owners are SOL).

If its so damn difficult, why on earth do you think I made a mod to make the game WAAAY harder and have a link to it in my sig?

Maybe I thought you were a masochist?

And yeah, sucks for you console owners (seriously who owns consoles anymore? srsly)

[empetus]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

empetus wrote...

Not for me. I usually only play through rpgs once anyway, but I do play them thoroughly and do everything and see everything on the one time through. Dragon Age I will probably play through a few of the origin stories after I'm done with my entire game play through, but I will stop playing the origin stories once it goes to Ostager, I would only want to see the original content in each story.

Honestly I would get bored playing through Dragon Age main campaign again, its all the same areas and monsters, the only difference would be in party makeup.

I really enjoy playing through Orzammar, I've always wanted to take an adventure in a real dwarven city. The only areas I really don't like are the Circle Tower and the Bercillian Forest.

I haven't done Orzammar yet so that's nice to hear, am saving that area for last.

[Xena_Shepard]

empetus wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

empetus wrote...

Not for me. I usually only play through rpgs once anyway, but I do play them thoroughly and do everything and see everything on the one time through. Dragon Age I will probably play through a few of the origin stories after I'm done with my entire game play through, but I will stop playing the origin stories once it goes to Ostager, I would only want to see the original content in each story.

Honestly I would get bored playing through Dragon Age main campaign again, its all the same areas and monsters, the only difference would be in party makeup.

I really enjoy playing through Orzammar, I've always wanted to take an adventure in a real dwarven city. The only areas I really don't like are the Circle Tower and the Bercillian Forest.

I haven't done Orzammar yet so that's nice to hear, am saving that area for last.

*Whew* Glad I didn't spoil anything for you then, it's very cool.

[DragonRageGT]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Yeah but I'm 99% sure it's nearly impossible, while PLAYING FAIRLY.

Argh... it may be true for you. I only play NM after my first 60 hours in normal and 106 hrs full run in Hard and I never needed exploit or cheat. And with 7 runs in NM... I can only say... L2P..

Even better, go watch some vids in YouTube and see what's not fair or what's broken in those... including a few vids of mine since I only started making them when I was already in doing NM and asking in the forum why did it felt a lot easier, when people, including SoD who answered you above, taught me a little more about the game!

http://social.biowar.../9/index/313167

[Glorfindel7]

I am on the side of 'where is this replayability everyone is talking about?'. There is exactly zero randomness in the game. No wait, that isn't fair, sometimes you get Random Encounter A the first time you fast travel, sometimes the second, sometimes not 'til the 3rd!!!! Wow!!! Different starting paths all converge to the same path very, very early. Same series of battles against exactly the same opponents, exactly the same quests, exactly the same..., well, you get the point. You can play somewhat different builds/groups which will give the individual battle tactics some variety. You can play solo - but will miss out on some of the design strengths (group interaction, combined arms tactics).



Do not get me wrong, I think DA:O is a brilliant game; but for me it is a once through brilliant game. Maybe if some mods with real content are added, I'll give it a return visit. I suspect I'll finish before RtO is released (why all the obsessing about less than an hour of content? Does no one on this forum every get out?) then back to Oblivion. Finally, installed the full FCOM (and what a relative chore that is with Wrye, OBSE, OBMM, etc but, oh, the content it adds) and maybe 150 other mods, mostly content mods, some to make a good looking game even better looking. And if I don't feel like doing the main quest (which is not much fun), I can still play for hundreds of hours and still not see everything. Exactly how many hours of content are there in DA:O if one chooses not to do the main quest? All that said, MW was a better game than OB, but it is hard to go back.

[Metalunatic]

Well, I just finished my 7th playthrough which is alot more than I can say from other games I have played, so for me it has been the most replayable game.

[Ilvra]

Xena_Shepard wrote...

empetus wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

empetus wrote...

Not for me. I usually only play through rpgs once anyway, but I do play them thoroughly and do everything and see everything on the one time through. Dragon Age I will probably play through a few of the origin stories after I'm done with my entire game play through, but I will stop playing the origin stories once it goes to Ostager, I would only want to see the original content in each story.

Honestly I would get bored playing through Dragon Age main campaign again, its all the same areas and monsters, the only difference would be in party makeup.

I really enjoy playing through Orzammar, I've always wanted to take an adventure in a real dwarven city. The only areas I really don't like are the Circle Tower and the Bercillian Forest.

I haven't done Orzammar yet so that's nice to hear, am saving that area for last.

*Whew* Glad I didn't spoil anything for you then, it's very cool.

It's a "your mileage may vary" thing, I think. I very much enjoyed both areas you hated, and LOATHED Orzammar.  Without getting into spoilers... the area is interesting enough, but I found the plot contrived and funless, and got massively annoyed at all the walking and zoning.

[BroBear Berbil]

The only games I've replayed as much as DA were Fable and Fable 2 but both of those were considerably shorter than this one (Fable only being about 8 hours to complete with all side quests). I believe I've completed DA 4 or 5 times, had a bunch of lower characters, and I'm working on 2 characters at the moment that I want to finish with before Awakening.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Yeah I got to admit this is definitly number one with regards RPGs I've replayed. People state the choices are limited but I really don't think they are. I started off on normal thinking I was a good RPGer but then got my arse handed to me, been playing on easy ever since on about 6 or more playthroughs at moment but I am going to give normal another try and then maybe work my way up if I still got characters to play

[DragonRageGT]

Glorfindel7 wrote...

Do not get me wrong, I think DA:O is a brilliant game; but for me it is a once through brilliant game.

Glorfindel, gotta love that name... go watch my best party series epilogue and prison break and see what you're missing wiht less than 20 runs in the game!

I have over 1,000 with Oblivion (2 chars, 500 hrs each) and it's a great game but it's really copy/paste world so there's not a sense of missing something and although I did have seen everything there, going back to some dungeons and kill respawn is dull.

I'm about to have 1,000 hrs here soon and it's a whole different game everytime I play it.

Namarië!

[Magus_42]

Sorry. I like Dragon Age and have a few replays underway, but nothing comes close to Planescape: Torment in terms of replayability.

[I Valente I]

The game I've replayed the most is Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and that game goes the exact same way every single time. Funny, I've replayed non-rpg's more than rpgs, like the original splinter cell. As far as rpg's are concerned...mmm I think Mass Effect takes the throne over Dragon Age. The reason being because it's shorter. Replaying Dragon Age is great, but before I start replaying, I know I'm in for the long haul, whereas if I feel like replaying Mass Effect, it only takes me about 15 hours nowadays. Since I replay based on impulse, shorter games work well for me.

[wanderon]

Replayable ?- definately -

Most replayable ever? - not in my book - or at least not yet. That trophy goes to the BG series which I was still actively playing when NWN2 came out over a decade after I started playing it.



As for PS:T while I loved it and thought it was the best from an RP standpoint of any of the IE games in some respects I could not get interested in a replay altho I attempted to several times.

[Skellimancer]

Baldur's Gate 1 is still the game i have played the most.

Its goddamn perfect.

[Wompoo]

No it isn't, BG series is still my favorite, for many many reasons... .Kotor and ME were good games but very over rated. Kotor was a little infantile story wise, ME was just plain shallow... if any thing, Jade (excluding the retro combat) was better then those 2. But I put DA:O a close second to BG series on re-playability. But for most memorable games sorry BG2, Thief 1/2 and Deusx

[maxernst]

Well, I haven't been through the whole thing. It certainly has some replay potential.You can play through the different origin stories and make some different choices with the characters, but the main plot seems to be fairly narrowly defined. It's probable comparable to Planescape: Torment, but will probably not have as much replay value for me as Fallout 2.



I'm baffled by the first BG choice....the wonderful BG2 I can see replaying, but BG1 is so linear (and so boring!). I need to start a thread to find out why people liked BG so much. I always thought it got a lot of its popularity stemmed from it being based on a familiar (if not especially good) game system in a familiar (if dull) world. I suppose that the mechanic of choosing companions and having them come along was novel, but I found all the characters in BG one-dimensional and irritating as hell. I actually traded in Jaheira for the dwarven cleric in the lower level of the place that gets flooded and was so pissed when she came back in BG2. The **** was supposed to drown!

[SuperMedbh]

I am really enjoying playing my mage on a second run. Sure, I had Wynn and Morrigan before, but I "get" the whole magic thing a lot better (seriously, first run, I was wondering why anyone would bother with lyrium potions). My tactics are far better-- on the first run I'd invariably need to redo a boss, and truthfully dropped down to easy in the last third of the plot.



But I will say, there is no run like the first run. I still gasp at times, and the whole mage storyline was really compelling, but it's still like seeing a movie the second time around. The suspense just isn't the same.



Without going into spoilers, it's hard to talk about why the plot isn't that replayable. Suffice to say, if you haven't finished your first run, there's a bit of an emotional rollercoaster ahead.

[Bullets McDeath]

I think Dragon Age is too long to be the "most replayable game ever". I've started many characters, doing a third and fourth sweep simultaneously (currently taking a break waiting for RtO... yeah, i know, could be a long break) so it's definitely replayable as all hell, but... I don't think I'll play it as many times as I did Chrono Trigger or Ocarina of Time or other SNES/PS1 era games.



Even if I devoted all my free time every evening to Dragon Age, at my general play speed it would probably take me a week and some change to go from beginning to end. Older games have a slight advantage in that they can be beaten in a day or two, somtimes a long afternoon even.

[FlintlockJazz]

maxernst wrote...

Well, I haven't been through the whole thing. It certainly has some replay potential.You can play through the different origin stories and make some different choices with the characters, but the main plot seems to be fairly narrowly defined. It's probable comparable to Planescape: Torment, but will probably not have as much replay value for me as Fallout 2.

I'm baffled by the first BG choice....the wonderful BG2 I can see replaying, but BG1 is so linear (and so boring!). I need to start a thread to find out why people liked BG so much. I always thought it got a lot of its popularity stemmed from it being based on a familiar (if not especially good) game system in a familiar (if dull) world. I suppose that the mechanic of choosing companions and having them come along was novel, but I found all the characters in BG one-dimensional and irritating as hell. I actually traded in Jaheira for the dwarven cleric in the lower level of the place that gets flooded and was so pissed when she came back in BG2. The **** was supposed to drown!

You started that thread on BG1 yet maxernst?

[MiSsSmOkEy20]

Ive replayed it to much. Im at the point where I dont really play to much anymore. Usually just when Im bored.

[RangerSG]

DA is very replayable. But Baldur's Gate is much more replayable. And NWN is infinitely playable because of the mod community, even if the vanilla game is vastly inferior, IMHO, to either BG or DA.

[FinneousPJ]

Well, after finishing the game on normal, I found nightmare quite easy after I knew the game and knew how to handle the more difficult fights.