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[Soggy-Snake-]

I said that Condor felt too 'busy' when it came to layout. For such an open map there are certainly a lot of obstacles and the tiers mean you have to go around a lot of things. Kind of hard to explain but I always felt restricted on that map, like I never got out of 2nd gear or something.

[mpompeo27]

Favorite: Ghost
Least fav: Reactor

[AnAverageGamer]

Just curious, why does everybody hate Condor? I've never had problems with that map, but I have only really played up to silver on it (with maybe half of a gold match). The map itself is beautiful, has decent places to hold and defend, and objectives aren't too bad on it. What do people hate other than ammo boxes not filling up fast enough?

I'm not saying Condor is my favorite map (because it's not even close), but I haven't seen anything overly horrible on it yet.

[Heldarion]

Speaking of Ghost Hazard - is anyone else getting screenshake when hosting and standing in the rain?

[Heldarion]

AnAverageGamer wrote...

Just curious, why does everybody hate Condor? I've never had problems with that map, but I have only really played up to silver on it (with maybe half of a gold match). The map itself is beautiful, has decent places to hold and defend, and objectives aren't too bad on it. What do people hate other than ammo boxes not filling up fast enough?

I'm not saying Condor is my favorite map (because it's not even close), but I haven't seen anything overly horrible on it yet.

How about them ammo boxes?

[bloodstalker1973]

Cyonan wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

I did something similar.  I added the bugginess of Condor as why I didn't like it and the look of it (personal taste)

I also thought there should be small DoT to players on White Whiteout and Dagger Sandstorm if you stayed outside too long (almost like the Mako and SP in ME1).  When the sandstorm picks up, if you are outside, your health should drop a little over time.  Just an idea.

Also, I was never really sure what the "hazard" was on Giant Night.  I mean, ok, a bit darker perhaps.  But a hazard, not really.   Anyone else know?

One of the BioWare guys said that it was originally as dark as the flashlight sections of the SP, but that ultimately it ended up not being very fun because you were often being killed by something you couldn't see.

 

The screen also shakes when the guns fire, which would be a slight hazard to snipers if there wasn't already so much screen shake from everything else in the game that we pretty much didn't even notice the guns firing anyway. 

[MermaidsTear]

Least fav: London (pug, Geth, gold, Wv10. 4 devices, teammates bleed out on 3 diff locations across the map :*( me--> human female adept) but condor seems fine to me.

Fav map: white (lots of love from ammo box <33)

[Uchimura]

Favorite: Ghost Hazard
Least: Condor

Heldarion wrote...

Speaking of Ghost Hazard - is anyone else getting screenshake when hosting and standing in the rain?

Isn't that just what happens because your shields are taking damage?

Modifié par Uchimura, 10 avril 2013 - 10:55 .

[stysiaq]

Did the survey, commented on every map.

I'm glad I didn't miss it.

[Belahzur]

Finished the survey, hope the MP team take our comments seriously.

Most favourite: Dagger/Glacier (easy mode)
Least favourite: Condor (broken map)

Modifié par Belahzur, 10 avril 2013 - 10:57 .

[Chealec]

Favourite : Ghost (Acid Rain) took one of the absolute best maps and made is so much prettier ... and a little more dangerous.

Least Favourite : Glacier Hazard ... I ... HATE ... the electro-bees so very, very much... adding them to the map that was already my least favourite (yeah, I don't like Glacier) was... yeah. Mind, on any kind of open map the bees would be far less of an issue.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Favorite: white v2
Least favorite: condor/rio...

[Belahzur]

Just read the whole thread - good to see condor getting the hate it deserves. This is why I like BSN

[Chealec]

Belahzur wrote...

Just read the whole thread - good to see condor getting the hate it deserves. This is why I like BSN

Heh - I actually put in the comment box on the survey "Condor isn't as bad as everyone makes out" ... I don't mind it (apart from the stuck on the loading screen glitch) - they ironed out most of the bugs and I like the bombed out battlefield look. The glitchy ammo boxes suck but hey - I've probably still got 255 Themal Clip Packs.

I never really got the hatred for Condor - as long as you keep moving it's not a bad map IMO *shrugs* ... unless you're playing as a Vorcha.

[Heldarion]

Uchimura wrote...

Favorite: Ghost Hazard
Least: Condor

Heldarion wrote...

Speaking of Ghost Hazard - is anyone else getting screenshake when hosting and standing in the rain?

Isn't that just what happens because your shields are taking damage?

I never noticed that off-host and when your shields are down, the screenshake continues.

[Belahzur]

Chealec wrote...

Belahzur wrote...

Just read the whole thread - good to see condor getting the hate it deserves. This is why I like BSN

Heh - I actually put in the comment box on the survey "Condor isn't as bad as everyone makes out" ... I don't mind it (apart from the stuck on the loading screen glitch) - they ironed out most of the bugs and I like the bombed out battlefield look. The glitchy ammo boxes suck but hey - I've probably still got 255 Themal Clip Packs.

I never really got the hatred for Condor - as long as you keep moving it's not a bad map IMO *shrugs* ... unless you're playing as a Vorcha.

The loading screen glitch still happens, the invisible enemys, crappy ammo boxes. Bad layout overall, the LZ is completely open with no cover apart from the one stupid box container. All that combined just makes it harder than it honestly needs to be.

[SeasonedTurtle]

Anyone else notice how they mispelled Firebase Dagger (Seeker Swarm) and instead put (Seeker Storm) in a couple of the questions?

Anyways, I left comments on a couple of the maps and went with Firebase White (Whiteout) as my favorite. It's grenade friendly, has good cover options, and is decent for just about any gameplay style.

[Chealec]

Belahzur wrote...

The loading screen glitch still happens, the invisible enemys, crappy ammo boxes. Bad layout overall, the LZ is completely open with no cover apart from the one stupid box container. All that combined just makes it harder than it honestly needs to be.

Ye-es ... and there used to be even more glitches, random lag spikes, crashes and I can't even remember what else. The loading screen glitch is the worst though, that's the most common... rarely encounter invisible enemies any more (had it like once in the last four months). Ammo crates are crap, agreed, but it's not like anyone is ever going to run out of Thermal Clip Packs.

Personally, I have no problems with the layout... good map for snipers or running and gunning, none of the objectives are too horrible (nothing like getting a 1,2,3,4 on Jade or Dagger or that Upload on Goddess... or the one on London) even getting an Upload objective at the LZ (or anywhere else on that map) isn't as bad as some objectives on other maps. Otherwise, cover at the LZ doesn't really matter ... it's not like you're camping there on extraction right? ... right?

The only real problem it poses, for difficulty, is if you're playing as a CQC class against Geth or Collectors, it's easy to get sniped and taken down by Primes/Scions ... or if you get an upload objective where Praetorians/Banshees can close on you all-too quickly. You can certainly hit the "resort to missiles" panic button on those waves.

At least you don't get points where things can literally drop down on your head as they spawn (still invincible for a second) or shoot you from off the map (Gacier, Ghost, Reactor and Giant), you don't get points where you fall out-of-bounds (still happens on Rio and Dagger occasionally) and there are basically no points where a Banshee can jump through a wall and instantly synch-kill you (White, Rio, Giant and Glacier being prime culprits)... you can just keep circling around on Condor, murdering everything as you go... there is pretty much no excuse for being synch-killed on that map (Upload objectives notwithstanding).

I actually find it generally easier than Glacier, way less annoying than Glacier Hazard, no more buggy than Rio (and it doesn't have the really long Drone escorts that Rio has), prettier than White or Dagger and just generally ... alright. It's not a great map but I still don't really get the hatred for it.

That's just me though - lots of people have said they like Glacier and I really don't like that map, so I don't really expect anyone to agree with me on Condor.

Modifié par Chealec, 10 avril 2013 - 11:54 .

[Daxamite]

thanks for pointing the survey out, OP

i found it hard to choose but voted for hydra (and no, not because i use the glitch to leave the map!). I complained about Condor bugs and said it should have been removed from MP, and about the effect FBW hazard has on krogan rage or geth hunter mode. I did praise the epic vistas on maps like hydra and rio, and the easter egg details of Vancouver. Least favourite map is glacier hazard :-/

[Rodia Driftwood]

Firebase Gaint at night ftw!


And F*CK Hydra!

[jakenou]

Oh nice. Thanks for pointing this out. Doing it now.

[StoxRegalia]

I trust you all did the right thing when it came to condor

[Cohen le Barbare]

Chealec wrote...

Belahzur wrote...

Just read the whole thread - good to see condor getting the hate it deserves. This is why I like BSN

Heh - I actually put in the comment box on the survey "Condor isn't as bad as everyone makes out" ... I don't mind it (apart from the stuck on the loading screen glitch) - they ironed out most of the bugs and I like the bombed out battlefield look. The glitchy ammo boxes suck but hey - I've probably still got 255 Themal Clip Packs.

I never really got the hatred for Condor - as long as you keep moving it's not a bad map IMO *shrugs* ... unless you're playing as a Vorcha.

Going uphill with a volus on Condor is not the best fun I've had... The look and feel is OK, but there's something about this map, I don't know :-p

[Invisible Juggernaut]

Uchimura wrote...

Favorite: Ghost Hazard
Least: Condor

Heldarion wrote...

Speaking of Ghost Hazard - is anyone else getting screenshake when hosting and standing in the rain?

Isn't that just what happens because your shields are taking damage?

No, that's just the shields dropping. That's a wierd glitch though. I do get the corresponding *ping* noise, but the only thing that happens is the screen goes red. 

[Catastrophy]

Notorious P I G wrote...

I trust you all did the right thing when it came to condor

I guess there is a certain consensus among players.

BTW: I picked Ghost Hazard, because chirping Geth in the rain.