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[Jonata]

 Not entirely Mass Effect 3 related, but surely also Mass Effect 3 relate so I'll post it here regardless. 

I'm planning to roll a Full Renegade Shepard which will be kind of both a "do what she has to do" kind of person and a ruthless, bloody warrior (like it is shown in the Ruthless PP) and I'm trying to figure out what is the best way to roleplay such a Shepard. 

Specifically, I can't decide between a Earthborn / Ruthless (the "canon" Renegade combo) or a Colonist / Ruthless background. C/R seems a lot more charismatic and with great roleplaying potential, however her bloodthirst sounds a little bit too much justified, she's just a "Jack" with unsolved problems and painful trauma from her past.

Earthborn / Ruthless, on the other hand, offers the chance to play a straightforward "almost evil" Shepard, a bloody warrior that has no other reason to be Renegade except some kind of creepy attraction towards violence, disturbingly similar to how Saren was depicted by Anderson in ME1. It's brutal, but the "petty teenage criminal" is pretty plain and lacks charisma to me.

So, what would you choose for a Full Renegade walkthorough? And which of those two combos do you think fit better a very, very Renegade Shepard?

Modifié par Jonata, 10 avril 2013 - 05:31 .

[zeypher]

Colonist/ruthless

[RA RA XD]

I went with spacer/ruthless. THOW IT OUT THE AIRLOCK!

[HolyAvenger]

I went colonist/ruthless. IMO Torfan sounds much more believable with a colonist background.

[zeypher]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I went colonist/ruthless. IMO Torfan sounds much more believable with a colonist background.

Same here, was my entire reason as well

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Earthborn/Survivor

[capn233]

Maybe there were extenuating circumstances on Torfan?

[Jonata]

zeypher wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I went colonist/ruthless. IMO Torfan sounds much more believable with a colonist background.

Same here, was my entire reason as well

Exactly what I'm saying: doesn't it seems too much justified? Less "Renegade"? I've never seen it under the "believability" point of view, however. Earthborn / Ruthless Shepard dose seem unlikely, like a true history monster who for some reason end up saving the Galaxy.

I'm liking the "scarred warrior" profile more, I think I'll go for Colonist / Ruthless as well. Makes more sense, even if I'll end up basically playing a Jack / Shepard hybrid. 

[HolyAvenger]

capn233 wrote...

Maybe there were extenuating circumstances on Torfan?

 

Of course, headcanon is open for all. 

[Abraham_uk]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I went colonist/ruthless. IMO Torfan sounds much more believable with a colonist background.

It provides an interesting background as to why Shepard was so ruthless towards the slavers.
She/he had some bad experiences back on Mindoir (I think...).

[capn233]

Abraham_uk wrote...

It provides an interesting background as to why Shepard was so ruthless towards the slavers.
She/he had some bad experiences back on Mindoir (I think...).

Yes.  It is a believable pairing...

Like Earthborn / Sole Survivor - learned how to survive on the mean streets of wherever.

Spacer / War Hero - something something.

[HolyAvenger]

capn233 wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

It provides an interesting background as to why Shepard was so ruthless towards the slavers.
She/he had some bad experiences back on Mindoir (I think...).

Yes.  It is a believable pairing...

Like Earthborn / Sole Survivor - learned how to survive on the mean streets of wherever.

Spacer / War Hero - something something.

 

Yep, these were my first 3 pairings for Shepards, made the most sense in my head. Space/WH - Paragon Soldier BroShep, Colonist/Ruthless - Renegade Adept BroShep, Earthborn/SS - Paragade Infiltrator FemShep.

[Jonata]

HolyAvenger wrote...

capn233 wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

It provides an interesting background as to why Shepard was so ruthless towards the slavers.
She/he had some bad experiences back on Mindoir (I think...).

Yes.  It is a believable pairing...

Like Earthborn / Sole Survivor - learned how to survive on the mean streets of wherever.

Spacer / War Hero - something something.

 

Yep, these were my first 3 pairings for Shepards, made the most sense in my head. Space/WH - Paragon Soldier BroShep, Colonist/Ruthless - Renegade Adept BroShep, Earthborn/SS - Paragade Infiltrator FemShep.

Don't know, the Earthborn / Soul Survivor seem a bit of a stretch. It is one thing to learn how to survive amongs the streets (or surviving "a life of petty crimes" like the PP puts it) but it is completely different to keep calm while everyone aroudn you just dies at the hands of horrible giant creatures.

The other works just fine, however. In particular, the Colonist / Ruthless background has a unique "Batman / Joker" quality to it: if you play it as a mostly Renegade Paragade, it's actually a (almost righteous) vengeful Paragon, while it basically become a "Jack before meeting Shepard" type of character if you do a full Ren playthrough (like I'm planning to). 

Nice!

[DeinonSlayer]

My canon was colonist/ruthless/paragade. Another interesting combination is spacer/ruthless/renegon.

[darkchaosbunny]

colonist works with any really, especially with war hero/ruthless being the cliche to how the hero's village is burned to the ground setting him up for a life of justice

Spacer being the best for boyscout idealists/military family men

In fact sole survivor isn't so great as the other two show skill, toughness, and leadership where as SS shows that he is just a tough guy, possibly ran to survive (as he didn't know about Tombs)

[capn233]

Jonata wrote...

Don't know, the Earthborn / Soul Survivor seem a bit of a stretch. It is one thing to learn how to survive amongs the streets (or surviving "a life of petty crimes" like the PP puts it) but it is completely different to keep calm while everyone aroudn you just dies at the hands of horrible giant creatures.

If I am completely honest, I never really liked the Sole Survivor notoriety to begin with.  To me it seems the least likely qualification for being put forward as the first human Spectre.

Maybe they selected him for his "luck."

[HolyAvenger]

My personal headcanon for SS is not that Shepard simply survived, but that he took down that Thresher Maw on foot after it wiped out his unit.

That could make one notorious.

[SirValeq]

Well, back in ME1 I chose Earthborn/War Hero for a paragade femshep to be my cannon through all playthroughs, just because I somehow knew, that Earth will become a key place in the series in the end. However, seeing how little mention did my origin get in ME3, I'd say not to bother much choosing it and just start playing.

[Jonata]

iLikeBWgames wrote...

Well, back in ME1 I chose Earthborn/War Hero for a paragade femshep to be my cannon through all playthroughs, just because I somehow knew, that Earth will become a key place in the series in the end. However, seeing how little mention did my origin get in ME3, I'd say not to bother much choosing it and just start playing.

That's true, the background choice is mostly for ME1, since it get basically forgotten in both ME2 and 3 (with some exceptions). I think it's because in ME2 and 3 your "background" simply becomes what you did in ME1, "Hero of the Citadel" and all the rest... too bad it's the same for everyone by that point. 

Earthborn / War Hero was my choice too for the very first walkthrough in the Trilogy and I was pretty excited about ME3 because I thought there would be some mention of it, Shepard being born on Earth and all the rest. I was kinda disappointed but it is for the best, at least now I know that those who are not Earthborn do not get sidelined in ME3. 

Modifié par Jonata, 13 avril 2013 - 10:54 .

[zeypher]

LOL, then why does my colonist shep say its good to be back home when he lands on earth. Earth was never his home

[capn233]

zeypher wrote...

LOL, then why does my colonist shep say its good to be back home when he lands on earth. Earth was never his home

Because the writers sometimes forgot their own story.

And ME3 is a perfect place to start for new players.