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[INVADERONE]

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

Hendrix137 wrote...

Krogan Pizza Delivery Service:


After about 10 failed attempts (including one disconnect) I finally got good objectives but miss sub 20 by 13 seconds. I admit defeat, let's see how long it takes until Xcal or someone else breaks the 20 minutes mark.

Aaand just like that, down goes Xcal...

[Nanostronghold]

The main trouble I have in being bothered that he used the hack cheese is that if you consider that he could have kept doing this until he got HVTs instead and the run would have been faster. He's clearly capable of doing super fast runs so ensuring you get the hack done as fast as possible isn't that big a deal when it still takes a toll on your finishing time.

[SilentStep79]

Belahzur wrote...

Bioware haven't commented on that glitch, they haven't said it's fine, but on the other hand, they haven't said it's an offense, so it's a grey area as far as I'm concerned, and I'm okay with cheesing the game if the oppotunity arises.

yeah, but putting it up on your youtube channel and implying that this is the "optimum" way to complete a plat solo, idk...

[longgamma]

His CoD videos are way better.

[Xcam901]

longgamma wrote...

His CoD videos are way better.

2/10 overused and obvious

[FasterThanFTL]

I will break the 19 minute mark but first someone has to tell me how to hack the game to get 3 pizza delivery objectives in a row. :innocent:

[MaxShine]

I don't mind the hack exploit... I view it as retaliation for the lolrocket/lolprime/loldrone/absurd troll spawns etc...

You can clearly see that xcal is a pro youtuber... Not only does he post the fastest run, but he also adds controversial game elements to increase the number of views... Great work xcal! Well done!

Modifié par 100RenegadePoints, 11 avril 2013 - 02:42 .

[VaultingFrog]

I have to say I am not impressed in the least. I have seen solo plat games far better than this even if they did last longer.

Sure Xcal has the ability to play at a high level however to me there just is no excuse for using any glitch in the game. Doesnt matter if Bioware "doesnt care" or not (and they do care btw). It is a poor example of a solo to me, and I dont enjoy solo games to begin with.

Not saying he is a bad player but I dont think too highly of stuff like this. Very dissapointed indeed.

[K_O_513]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Me and xcal shared videos in the past so I know he's cool but looking at how fast he takes out enemies in this video just makes me wonder. I cant copy that kill speed even after charge weapon synergy with incendiary IV.

Just gotta work your way up to Bruce's level. No shame in that.

[NuclearTech76]

silentstep79 wrote...

Belahzur wrote...

Bioware haven't commented on that glitch, they haven't said it's fine, but on the other hand, they haven't said it's an offense, so it's a grey area as far as I'm concerned, and I'm okay with cheesing the game if the oppotunity arises.

yeah, but putting it up on your youtube channel and implying that this is the "optimum" way to complete a plat solo, idk...

I've asked a couple of times whether it was bannable and they said they were looking at it but it wasn't at the time. That was a few months ago.

That said I made a thread descibing how to do it with some other grey area mechanics and it was not locked but was made to sleep with the fishes. It completely disappeared, so I haven't commented anymore on the subject.

Modifié par NuclearTech76, 11 avril 2013 - 02:45 .

[OutlawStar58]

INVADERONE wrote...

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

Why? He didn't need to do it to complete the solo, he just wanted a faster time. Like the guy who made the comment about zelda speedruns, its just a clever user of the game mechanics. Next minute BSN will say that all quake speedruns are not legit because they used rocket jumping to skip stuff. 

I think we are at a point where we have to apply the same speedrun categories to this game now: with sequence breaking (in ME3 terms objective skipping/shortening) and non-sequence breaking (objectives completed as they should). That way both sides can be happy (I don't see why speedrunners have to appease anybody IMO).

p.s. if the stair trick bugs anyone, then they are sadists and love getting sync killed for their own weird pleasure

TL:DR hack circle glitch is just a sequence break (something done in all speedruns), people shold state whether their time is non-sequence break or sequence break to prevent whining

[Raptor2023]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Me and xcal shared videos in the past so I know he's cool but looking at how fast he takes out enemies in this video just makes me wonder. I cant copy that kill speed even after charge weapon synergy with incendiary IV.

He's using HVB and is constantly using ammo packs for the damage/ammo boost.

[Caineghis2500]

Rad_Rage wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Me and xcal shared videos in the past so I know he's cool but looking at how fast he takes out enemies in this video just makes me wonder. I cant copy that kill speed even after charge weapon synergy with incendiary IV.

Just gotta work your way up to Bruce's level. No shame in that.

Seriously. Do you know the difference between Pc and console? Well do you?

[JewelsWinnfield]

Hack circle glitch is still better than having 10 or more rockets. 

[OutlawStar58]

Hendrix137 wrote...

Hack circle glitch is still better than having 10 or more rockets. 

You see BSN, instead of whining about the video or going "lol reegar anyone could do that", this man got off his ass to make a better one, props to you hendrix

[INVADERONE]

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

Why? He didn't need to do it to complete the solo, he just wanted a faster time. Like the guy who made the comment about zelda speedruns, its just a clever user of the game mechanics. Next minute BSN will say that all quake speedruns are not legit because they used rocket jumping to skip stuff. 

I think we are at a point where we have to apply the same speedrun categories to this game now: with sequence breaking (in ME3 terms objective skipping/shortening) and non-sequence breaking (objectives completed as they should). That way both sides can be happy (I don't see why speedrunners have to appease anybody IMO).

p.s. if the stair trick bugs anyone, then they are sadists and love getting sync killed for their own weird pleasure

TL:DR hack circle glitch is just a sequence break (something done in all speedruns), people shold state whether their time is non-sequence break or sequence break to prevent whining

What??? Sequence Break something done in all speed runs.....sequence break and a trick/glitch are two totally different things....last time I checked all of the speed run tutorial guides that Team Arelex and I have done together I do not ever remember ..ok lets just be direct...ever did this glitch so that we did not have to be in the hack circle. 

I do not get why people are dissapointed with other's wanting to see the game played straight without glitches? When does the mindset change to glitch's/tricks are now the thing people want to defend as opposed to playing the game straight and succeeding? 

I dont have a problem with Xcal. The guy's awesome. I was only dissapointed with the wave 3 glitch as if I were to try this on conole on any platinum solo attempt...I could not get the same result. It would be difficult for me to do half of the glitches I see on PC games from what I have read/heard on how to implement them. So I dont even try! This way if I get something done its never questioned. Again, love the guy's work I was just dissapointed in that one part. He's skilled enough to handle the hack circle in my opinion so the trick was not necessary. In other words I have more faith in Xcal to have been able to do the hack circle wihtout using the glitch/trick. 

Modifié par INVADERONE, 11 avril 2013 - 03:02 .

[JewelsWinnfield]

OutlawStar58 wrote...

Hendrix137 wrote...

Hack circle glitch is still better than having 10 or more rockets. 

You see BSN, instead of whining about the video or going "lol reegar anyone could do that", this man got off his ass to make a better one, props to you hendrix

Faster, not better, but thank you. I wouldn't have gotten this time with a hack, glitched or not.

[VaultingFrog]

Hendrix137 wrote...

Hack circle glitch is still better than having 10 or more rockets. 

Ah but he did do that kind of crap or did you not notice the armored compartments V on his Kroguard?

OutlawStar58 wrote...

You see BSN, instead of whining about the video or going "lol reegar anyone could do that", this man got off his ass to make a better one, props to you hendrix

It doesnt excuse the use of glitches in my eyes. No glitch is acceptable to me.

Also right now all your doing is making yoruself look like an ass. Just callin it like I see it.

[INVADERONE]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Rad_Rage wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Me and xcal shared videos in the past so I know he's cool but looking at how fast he takes out enemies in this video just makes me wonder. I cant copy that kill speed even after charge weapon synergy with incendiary IV.

Just gotta work your way up to Bruce's level. No shame in that.

Seriously. Do you know the difference between Pc and console? Well do you?

Doubtful. He probably doesnt even realize you have solo'd platinum more times than he/she has played this game too so I'd just as well ignore the comment. 

As to the Kill Speed you can on console while using the ammo packs but then you'd still need quite a few...I'd be hard pressed to use them in a solo as you need them in some tough spots at times.

[OutlawStar58]

INVADERONE wrote...

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

Why? He didn't need to do it to complete the solo, he just wanted a faster time. Like the guy who made the comment about zelda speedruns, its just a clever user of the game mechanics. Next minute BSN will say that all quake speedruns are not legit because they used rocket jumping to skip stuff. 

I think we are at a point where we have to apply the same speedrun categories to this game now: with sequence breaking (in ME3 terms objective skipping/shortening) and non-sequence breaking (objectives completed as they should). That way both sides can be happy (I don't see why speedrunners have to appease anybody IMO).

p.s. if the stair trick bugs anyone, then they are sadists and love getting sync killed for their own weird pleasure

TL:DR hack circle glitch is just a sequence break (something done in all speedruns), people shold state whether their time is non-sequence break or sequence break to prevent whining

What??? Sequence Break something done in all speed runs.....sequence break and a trick/glitch are two totally different things....last time I checked all of the speed run tutorial guides that Team Arelex and I have done together I do not ever remember ..ok lets just be direct...ever did this glitch so that we did not have to be in the hack circle. 

I do not get why people are dissapointed with other's wanting to see the game played straight without glitches? When does the mindset change to glitche's/tricks are now the thing people want to defend as opposed to playing the game straight and succeeding? 

I dont have a problem with Xcal. The guy's awesome. I was only dissapointed with the wave 3 glitch as if I were to try this on conole on any platinum solo attempt...I could not get the same result. It would be difficult for me to do half of the glitches I see on PC games from what I have read/heard on how to implement them. So I dont even try! This way if I get something done its never questioned. Again, love the guy's work I was just dissapointed in that one part. He's skilled enough to handle the hack circle in my opinion so the trick was not necessary. In other words I have more faith in Xcal to have been able to do the hack circle wihtout using the glitch/trick. 

1.Thats why I said their are TWO categories for speed runs, one without tricks/sequence breaking and and ones with (which is what you do and yes they are very good)

2. Nobody is stopping you from getting a PC but if its that big a deal, then that would count as the fastest PC record (until Hendrix) because of the differences but still a world record because it can't be discredited just because you don't have the resources to do it

3. He doesn't like taking chances, he could have stayed in the circle but why bother if he could shave off some time

4. People are right to be suspicious of PC runs especially because of N7-Link but xcal has several videos proving his skills in this game whereas Link was questioned for a long time for his legitmacy.

[VaultingFrog]

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

Why? He didn't need to do it to complete the solo, he just wanted a faster time. Like the guy who made the comment about zelda speedruns, its just a clever user of the game mechanics. Next minute BSN will say that all quake speedruns are not legit because they used rocket jumping to skip stuff. 

I think we are at a point where we have to apply the same speedrun categories to this game now: with sequence breaking (in ME3 terms objective skipping/shortening) and non-sequence breaking (objectives completed as they should). That way both sides can be happy (I don't see why speedrunners have to appease anybody IMO).

p.s. if the stair trick bugs anyone, then they are sadists and love getting sync killed for their own weird pleasure

TL:DR hack circle glitch is just a sequence break (something done in all speedruns), people shold state whether their time is non-sequence break or sequence break to prevent whining

What??? Sequence Break something done in all speed runs.....sequence break and a trick/glitch are two totally different things....last time I checked all of the speed run tutorial guides that Team Arelex and I have done together I do not ever remember ..ok lets just be direct...ever did this glitch so that we did not have to be in the hack circle. 

I do not get why people are dissapointed with other's wanting to see the game played straight without glitches? When does the mindset change to glitche's/tricks are now the thing people want to defend as opposed to playing the game straight and succeeding? 

I dont have a problem with Xcal. The guy's awesome. I was only dissapointed with the wave 3 glitch as if I were to try this on conole on any platinum solo attempt...I could not get the same result. It would be difficult for me to do half of the glitches I see on PC games from what I have read/heard on how to implement them. So I dont even try! This way if I get something done its never questioned. Again, love the guy's work I was just dissapointed in that one part. He's skilled enough to handle the hack circle in my opinion so the trick was not necessary. In other words I have more faith in Xcal to have been able to do the hack circle wihtout using the glitch/trick. 

1.Thats why I said their are TWO categories for speed runs, one without tricks/sequence breaking and and ones with (which is what you do and yes they are very good)

2. Nobody is stopping you from getting a PC but if its that big a deal, then that would count as the fastest PC record (until Hendrix) because of the differences but still a world record because it can't be discredited just because you don't have the resources to do it

3. He doesn't like taking chances, he could have stayed in the circle but why bother if he could shave off some time

4. People are right to be suspicious of PC runs especially because of N7-Link but xcal has several videos proving his skills in this game whereas Link was questioned for a long time for his legitmacy.

You completely missed his point... missed it by such a wide margen that I am not sure I can comprehend how wide it actually is.

[OutlawStar58]

VaultingFrog wrote...

Hendrix137 wrote...

Hack circle glitch is still better than having 10 or more rockets. 

Ah but he did do that kind of crap or did you not notice the armored compartments V on his Kroguard?

OutlawStar58 wrote...

You see BSN, instead of whining about the video or going "lol reegar anyone could do that", this man got off his ass to make a better one, props to you hendrix

It doesnt excuse the use of glitches in my eyes. No glitch is acceptable to me.

Also right now all your doing is making yoruself look like an ass. Just callin it like I see it.

If glitched are unacceptable to you then fine thats your opinion but no one is stopping you from doing what xcal did except for yourself.

And please try harder.

[OutlawStar58]

VaultingFrog wrote...

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

OutlawStar58 wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

Man...I love Xcal but I have to admit I was soooo dissapointed when I saw what went on in Wave 3. I guess I didnt expect Xcal to resort to a trick to complete a solo.... I still love the guy but.....I have to admit I am dissapointed....

Why? He didn't need to do it to complete the solo, he just wanted a faster time. Like the guy who made the comment about zelda speedruns, its just a clever user of the game mechanics. Next minute BSN will say that all quake speedruns are not legit because they used rocket jumping to skip stuff. 

I think we are at a point where we have to apply the same speedrun categories to this game now: with sequence breaking (in ME3 terms objective skipping/shortening) and non-sequence breaking (objectives completed as they should). That way both sides can be happy (I don't see why speedrunners have to appease anybody IMO).

p.s. if the stair trick bugs anyone, then they are sadists and love getting sync killed for their own weird pleasure

TL:DR hack circle glitch is just a sequence break (something done in all speedruns), people shold state whether their time is non-sequence break or sequence break to prevent whining

What??? Sequence Break something done in all speed runs.....sequence break and a trick/glitch are two totally different things....last time I checked all of the speed run tutorial guides that Team Arelex and I have done together I do not ever remember ..ok lets just be direct...ever did this glitch so that we did not have to be in the hack circle. 

I do not get why people are dissapointed with other's wanting to see the game played straight without glitches? When does the mindset change to glitche's/tricks are now the thing people want to defend as opposed to playing the game straight and succeeding? 

I dont have a problem with Xcal. The guy's awesome. I was only dissapointed with the wave 3 glitch as if I were to try this on conole on any platinum solo attempt...I could not get the same result. It would be difficult for me to do half of the glitches I see on PC games from what I have read/heard on how to implement them. So I dont even try! This way if I get something done its never questioned. Again, love the guy's work I was just dissapointed in that one part. He's skilled enough to handle the hack circle in my opinion so the trick was not necessary. In other words I have more faith in Xcal to have been able to do the hack circle wihtout using the glitch/trick. 

1.Thats why I said their are TWO categories for speed runs, one without tricks/sequence breaking and and ones with (which is what you do and yes they are very good)

2. Nobody is stopping you from getting a PC but if its that big a deal, then that would count as the fastest PC record (until Hendrix) because of the differences but still a world record because it can't be discredited just because you don't have the resources to do it

3. He doesn't like taking chances, he could have stayed in the circle but why bother if he could shave off some time

4. People are right to be suspicious of PC runs especially because of N7-Link but xcal has several videos proving his skills in this game whereas Link was questioned for a long time for his legitmacy.

You completely missed his point... missed it by such a wide margen that I am not sure I can comprehend how wide it actually is.

Alright shoot, what's his point?

[VaultingFrog]

OutlawStar58 wrote...
Alright shoot, what's his point?

The point is that he is not saying Xcal is unskilled. Far from it. Just that he is dissapointed that his friend (dont really know if they are friends or not) decided to use said glitch in order to complete a plat solo when he has faith that he didnt actually need to resort to using it.

How difficult was that to get out of his posts?