Do you consider yourself to be a good person?
#51
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:08
#52
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:08
#53
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:10
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Lightning Cloud wrote...
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
I don't believe there is an inherent good and bad in this world, we all have our own morals and the animals don't care, it's all chemicals in your brain, nothing more in my opinion, do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't inflict upon another.
Isn't that technically drawing a line at what's good and what isn't?
Also I don't believe so as you're allowing morals to stay as a subjective thing, which is the way it is.
No-one had the right answer so you should allow those other opinions to be heard, or you could argue that you wish to inflict pain because your opinion should rule above all. This is the one rule that separated a good act from an evil one, the act itself doesn't matter, it is the intention that does because morals are subjective.
#54
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:12
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
I don't believe there is an inherent good and bad in this world, we all have our own morals and the animals don't care, it's all chemicals in your brain, nothing more in my opinion, do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't inflict upon another.
This. Also I'm ammoral so arguments that involve good and evil, right or wrong are always ignored by me.
Modifié par ibbikiookami, 11 avril 2013 - 09:15 .
#55
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:16
#56
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:17
My only answer is that I try to do good. No one is perfect, however.
#57
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:18
#58
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:18
And that's just small things, you could also do bigger things, such as treat a homeless guy to dinner. Or hand over your saving to a family member that's gotten in serious financial trouble, and so on and so on.
Modifié par M25105, 11 avril 2013 - 09:20 .
#59
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:22
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
No morals are universal friend.
#60
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:24
#61
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:26
#62
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:29
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
I don't know. Treating others the way you want to be treated is pretty universal as a moral standard, if you ask me.Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@M25105
No morals are universal friend.
#63
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:33
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@M25105
No morals are universal friend.
Treating people like a dick is a universal morally bad thing.
#64
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:33
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
LolNo, plenty of people just do what they want.
Also there's plenty of people I'd like to execute on the street doesn't mean I want to be executed.
#65
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:34
Good in bed
Good looking
Good drinking buddy
Good at rolling fat ones.....
Good for YOU
#66
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:36
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
I know that plenty of people commit atrocities, what others would call "being a dick" in the name of good.
#67
Guest_NOR_MAN_DEE_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:37
Guest_NOR_MAN_DEE_*
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@randumb vanguard
LolNo, plenty of people just do what they want.
Also there's plenty of people I'd like to execute on the street doesn't mean I want to be executed.
You're speaking my language
But you're right about people doing whatever they want.The fact is, if people really did follow certain moral standards consistently and really did treat people the way they want to be treated.. then society wouldn't be the way it is.
#68
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:40
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
While it is true that most people just do what they want it doesn't make it any less true that being the one to treat others the way you'd like to be treated is any less noble.Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@randumb vanguard
LolNo, plenty of people just do what they want.
Also there's plenty of people I'd like to execute on the street doesn't mean I want to be executed.
And I'm sure that person appreciates you not executing them, just as you appreciate not being executed, so in the end, everyone leaves happy
It's a good time all around.
#69
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:43
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
#70
Guest_Aotearas_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:48
Guest_Aotearas_*
M25105 wrote...
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@M25105
No morals are universal friend.
Treating people like a dick is a universal morally bad thing.
Only if its socially inacceptable.
For example treating women like second class humans is pretty much a give in large parts of the world up until today.
#71
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:51
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
It doesn't matter whether or not people follow it when defining subjectivity. What matters is whether or not people agree with it.Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
The subjective moral is there you're correct but until everyone follows it it's still subjective hence no moral(s) applies to all.
And I think you'll have one heck of a time finding anyone who will disagree with the basic principal of the "golden rule"
Besides, something can be good overall even if some people disagree.
#72
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:59
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Because society says so?
What if Society said killing was good? Would it be?
And hundreds upon thousands of people, even more disagree with the Holden rule whenever they break it by, raping, stealing, murdering and oppressing.
#73
Guest_BringBackNihlus_*
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 09:59
Guest_BringBackNihlus_*
I'd like to think I'm a good person. I try to be, at least. I know I have a hellacious temper that can be touched on fairly easily, though.
#74
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 10:01
It's personal. Meaning, for me, if a stranger or someone of no meaning has a negative opinion of me, I don't care. I only care what mine think. To them, if they think I am good then that's what I am. If they think I am bad, I will change to appease them. Simply because their opinion matters. I see myself as capable of both good and bad. As well as everything and nothing. But, to two people, I am everything. That's all that matters. I act in accordance to their best interest.randumb vanguard wrote...
Besides, something can be good overall even if some people disagree.
#75
Posté 11 avril 2013 - 10:06
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
M25105 wrote...
Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@M25105
No morals are universal friend.
Treating people like a dick is a universal morally bad thing.
Only if its socially inacceptable.
For example treating women like second class humans is pretty much a give in large parts of the world up until today.
True but torturing children by breaking their arms and legs or burning large portions of their flesh has always be unacceptable to all cultures across the world. There are degrees of course such as foot binding and and rituals from adolesence to adulthood which stretch the boundary but brutally beating a six-year-old is a universal no-no.
People still do it but it's never been socially acceptable in any culture, ever.
Edit* I suppose my contention with "moral/s" is the religious overtones but whatever I have my principles and I adhere to them regardless of what they cost me because their my principles. But I tentatively would suggest that torturing children is wrong universally across humanity.
Modifié par Fiddles dee dee, 11 avril 2013 - 10:11 .





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