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Why were you able to do countless playthroughs with ME2 but not ME3?


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#101
Mike Shepard

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Maybe this makes me an alien being, but I really enjoyed Mass Effect 3. I didn't rage over the endings (not even for a second). I also enjoyed Mass Effect 1 & Mass Effect 2. So it's not because I like "dumbed down gameplay"

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ME3 was a death march, that's why.

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ME2 had a lot of important decisions to make. ME3 was just the results of a lot of those decisions.

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ME1: 12 times complete + all DLC
ME2: 12 times complete + all DLC
ME3: 3 times. Once w/EC + Citadel DLC

I don't like all the autodialogue in ME3. I found 1 & 2 more fun. 3 is really dark, but then it is a war. And then there's the last 10 minutes (now 20 minutes) just awful.

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Stardusk wrote...

 A questionnaire/ opinion poll...

I did about 20+ runs on ME2, 1.5 on ME3...

What is your story?


The most obvious reason would be ME1 and ME2 have been around longer.

Personally, I have never played a non-import game. So ME1 would have the most plays. I got ME1 maybe 3-4 months before ME2 came out so it leads ME2 by 1 or 2 plays. I've played ME1 anywhere from 13-20ish. I know I've played each class twice. 

ME3 has been played only once. ME3 has only been played once due to the fact that the endings are give up and let the reapers win (refuse), Give up and do their work for them (synthesis), join the reapers (control) and ruin galactic civilization (destroy). There wasn't much... um, enthusiasm to play the series after that knowing that it's sort of all for nothing. That's kind of a buzz kill. I know when I heard they were making a Halo: Reach I wouldn't want it. I read the book. I already know how it ends for the other SPARTANS and I don't play to loss. With the MEHEM I'll probably start playing ME again.

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Stardusk wrote...

 A questionnaire/ opinion poll...

I did about 20+ runs on ME2, 1.5 on ME3...

What is your story?


Lotsa runs on ME1 and 2, so much galaxy and characterisation to explore.....

ME3, managed 1 complete run on ParaShep, tried to do a run with ReneShep, lost the will to live and so buried myself in the MP.

Now Citadels here I did the ReneShep runthrough, deleted all my save games, importe ParaShep again and played through to Citadel, which was awesome in all kinds of way's. Then got past it to go fight TIM aaaaaaand....... nope, will to live through another ending not strong enough. Life's to short to listen to the Catalyst spout more of 'His' view on life when the purpose of the game is to enable the player to enforce his or her views on the ingame world..... and none of my views are supported by the ending in their entirity.

Well, except the MEHEM.

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I've done countless playthroughs for all 3 games, so... *shrugs*

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JamesFaith wrote...

ME1 - I'm student - a lot ot time
ME2 - I'm student and not too much work - still enough time
ME3 - I'm hard working man - minimum free time


This.

#109
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Because ME3 didn't feel like it was my story anymore. To be fair, I had a sour outlook going in since BioWare knowingly shipped ME3 with a broken importer tool, destroying my Shepard's face (I tried to recreate him, but was always bothered by the result). Then there was the abundance of autodialogue which railroaded all Shepard's into one of two categories (paragon or renegade, neutral Shep's like myself were absolutely screwed), followed by a severe amount of forced emotions via the Earth child, unnecessary dream sequences, and Shepard's extremely campy obsession with current and former squadmates. 

Basically, I felt like Shepard was a stranger. 

Oh, and the ending sucked.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 14 avril 2013 - 05:45 .


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ME1: 10 or so times (including Bring Down the Sky)
ME2: 7 or 8 times (plus all story-based DLC)

ME3: Almost 3 times. Never truly fully completed, because I ALT+F4 out of the crap with the starkid and 'pick your favorite color'. However, I got all the way to that point 3 times, and that's close enough to actual completion for me. (DLC: Extended Cut and From Ashes, before I figured 'why bother'.)

Modifié par Shazzie, 14 avril 2013 - 10:53 .


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ME3? I think 6-7 playthroughs already. Not that much free time, i just spend time in franchises that are actually worth MORE than a damn.
I am liking ME3 just fine(could be better but hey) right up until Harbinger's beam. After that my mind goes on it's merry way. Know what i'm saying?

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I've played through each game the same amount of times. Each time I replay the game, I create a new Shepard and play through the entire thing. There are things to love about each game, so why not get the most out of it?

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ME2 was just simply more diverse and epic. Going from a uninhabitable planet to chasing down an assassin in a building was incredibly fun. The one thing ME3 really got right was the combat. It's so much smoother compared to 2.

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Simple question, simple answer.

It's a great game.

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I have finished ME3 2 times, so yeah, I m still playing it.

ME3 is a really good game, that's just a fact.

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The endings, plain and simple.  I completed ME1 about six times, ME2 over a dozen...and I'm on my first NG+ on ME3. Just knowing what's waiting for me at the end has me posting here instead of heading to the Citadel for the coup...

Modifié par Manimal, 15 avril 2013 - 11:13 .


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ME: Finished the game once, going for a new game plus run right now with my default Shepard on a higher difficulty. Only played a few more unifinished stories just for the sake of getting some trophies. Played like hundreds of hours alone on this game.

ME2: Started with a custom Shepard, almost went for the Suicide Mission when I lost interest. Then I restarted with another Shepard and finished the game once.

ME3: I imported my default Shepard from my ME2 playthrough, without playing ME, and finished the game once. Never went back ever since -- except to play Leviathan & Omega DLCs. Citadel DLC is still waiting, but I'm not planning on doing it before importing my new Shep from ME to ME2, then ME3.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 15 avril 2013 - 11:35 .


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Only went through ME 3 times it's a chore of a game, ME2 I did about 8, I loved it untill I got all the dlc and it started to take like 5 min to load into an area, and ME3 about 13 (working on 14), loved the story just as much as ME2 it's just that the combat is way more enjoyable in 3.

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Stardusk wrote...

 A questionnaire/ opinion poll...

I did about 20+ runs on ME2, 1.5 on ME3...

What is your story?


There will be spoilers here obviously.

About 10 on ME 1 over both the XBox and PC - Lots of freedom to explore, gripping story, great characters, was an absolute classic of a generation. Preferred the XBox controls overall, which was rare for a shooter.

5 on ME 2 - Took the bests bits of 1 and improved on them, with dramatic timing, a more impactful story with better pacing. Only losing a bit in the process, some RPG freedoms, free exploration, customisation, squadmate opinions on the mission etc. The main aggrivation was how easy it was for Shepherd to let go of the alliance, and that some of the main series characters were missing. When you met them they scolded you for dying, oh well excuse me for being blown up... kind of makes it hard to write a letter.

1 on ME 3, Yeah i've not done a second on ME3 yet. - I am playing through the whole triology again, but shepherds personality has less options in ME 3, no neutral ground in dialogue, and coupled with autodialogue it really throws off the replay options for me. Autodialogue is the worst feature of all for me. I am hoping as I am playing a slightly different character this time all the way through, ME 3 will look a bit different anyway. Plus I never liked the whole notion of - working for the alliance, not working for the alliance, working for the alliance, Shepherd seems all over the place. With the Council and then the Alliance distrusting me all the way, I was ready to go merc in the third one, or at least carry on working for cerberus. My xenophobic renegade shepherd was shaking hands with the races he wanted to kill :), I am hoping my more paragon Shep will sit a bit easier in ME 3, but still why would he or I go back to work for people who want me in Jail? Despite the fact i've saved them who knows how many times.

I'll be picking up the DLC, as they did a few things I am glad of. Revist to Omega, Citadael and FINALLY a DLC that engages your squadmates, the way people have called out since ME 1 and Bring Down the Sky. That only took what, a decade ;), and it looks like it was done in style too!

The endings well. All I'll say is on the next one, don't introduce a character 5 minutes before the end and make them an important character, this never, ever works well. I am not attached to them, I don't know them, I've barely even seen them beyond glimpses. I didn't mind at all that I died, personally if they were out of character options, I would have made a last stand or a taken the run sequence and made it a series of climatic battles, where all the old squadmates fight alongside your team. They live or die based on how you do, that would have made for a gripping run towards the base, then put on a last stand or a boss fight or both in one! Krogan - Led by Wrex/Grunt, Biotics Led by- Jack/Liara, Quarian or Geth Fleet Ground Support Led by... you get the idea.

Modifié par Torrential, 16 avril 2013 - 07:20 .


#120
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I think Mass Effect 3 is a much more emotionally charged and draining experience, so it doesn't have as much impact on multiple playthroughs. Mass Effect 2 is still good, but it's less emotional and more of just fun. I don't mean that negatively, just what i think, sry if i didn't phrase well, please don't kill me, I am always terrified to say anything on the bioware forums.

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Actually I played, ME3 as many times as ME2. Seems like a lot of others did as well.
As for ME2 at the risk of getting myself shot down in flames I think the story 'wandered' too much. All the side missions for different characters was like a collection of short stories rather than one solid narrative. It doesn't encourage me to go back there again. I would be more likely to replay ME1 or ME3 at this point.

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Funnily enough, what made ME great was the other stuff never the reapers. The reaper plotline has generally been the most annoying parts of the franchise. The reason a lot liked the 2 was because reapers were near non existent in it. That is precisely why i want next ME to be set after the events of 3, as i want MEU without reapers.

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TMB903 wrote...

ME2 was just simply more diverse and epic. Going from a uninhabitable planet to chasing down an assassin in a building was incredibly fun. The one thing ME3 really got right was the combat. It's so much smoother compared to 2.


This.

Although I have to say, that while ME has the most intense storytelling the gameplay sucks and the side-quests are damn boring and always the same. The mako...no words needed.

ME2 on the other hand had at times amazing side-quests and the loyalty-missions were mostly awesome, but the game loses most of its pace during the middle and that planet-grinding...I still wonder if the BioWare even thought when they created that? And it sucked how little skills you had and the weapon-upgrading was nothing more than a crappy joke. ME2 is the hardest to me to play through because during the middle up to the Reaper corpse mission it gets at times really boring.

ME3 has the best gameplay, the fastest pace and the most exciting missions- but the weakest narrating. I missed those many choises in dialogues, I wondered why the hardest decision in ME1 (Rachni queen) was made completely meaningless with the artificial one, why were there so many auto-dialogues? But then again, the pace in the game, that feeling of pressure during the war, it was awesome, the gameplay was great compared to ME1 and 2, the DLC's were awesome so far (still have to play Citadel though)...despite the ME-unworthy ending and the timing of the DLC's, wether Leviathan should've been already in the game instead of being published as DLC and all those discussions, I won't let all that ruin that ME3 ends the trilogy (until its ending) with a big bang.


So yeah, all of the games have their ups and downs, good and bad sides and for me the good sides outweigh the bad sides in all three games. I enjoyed and loved all of them equally.

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 Actually for me, its twice for each game - 2 for ME2, and 2 for ME3. One Normal, then one Insanity.

While I quite liked the ME3 ending, it didn't reach the same heights as ME2 did. The Suicide Mission really was the embodiment of your entire squad working together to achieve the final goal. Nobody was left out, and I remember the music playing as we went through the Omega 4 Relay - I swear I got a lump in my throat as my assembled team, all of whom I grew to love, went for the final battle together. 

ME3 really didn't have this big finale. While I am happy with the Destroy/Synthesis/Control endings (its BioWare's story after all, they can tell it how they wish), I think the story would have benefit greatly from reaching that point in the same way the ME2 Suicide Mission did. In the end Priority Earth was just another mission with Shepard + 2 squadmates.

And while I absolutely love the ME3 Multiplayer, I actually prefer the single player combat of ME2 - its more cover based and tactical. Insanity on ME2 was genuinely hard, while Insanity on ME3 is simple in comparison - about the same as Silver on Multiplayer, which really isn't that difficult if you've been playing for a while.

At the moment I'm just enjoying watching ME2 Insanity vids on YouTube, the single player gameplay is so much more interesting and exciting to me. It makes me want to do another Insanity run on ME2, maybe with a class I've never used before - perhaps Adept, or Vanguard.

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me1 was like 5 times. Me2 was like 18 times. most on ps3, and some with xbox. Also most of my playthroughs are the same, with me romancing tali, saving wrex, and saving, then killing the rachni queen. Also, me3 has me at about 10 playthroughs. I love all 3 games, but in terms of favorite to least it has to be ME2(Tali-mance introduced) ME3(Tali-mance, combat, and Looks (in my opinion) were all improved) and then ME1. I made the mistake of playing me2 first because I was a playstation owner at the time. And going to outdated graphics, and ****-tastic auto-saves, and okay, but clearly inferior combat is extremely difficult.