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[TODD9999]

Torrential wrote...

100% agree on the story, as there feels little impact in the final choice for ME 3, it didn't reference the previous choices as the main villian/character was never introduced. He wasn't really there for 100 hours of gameplay except some vague references then boom he's the main end character = THIS NEVER WORKS, in films or games. Introducing someone we don't know, have never met or cared about as the main and final character - bah! As for ME 1, it had some of the greatest story development going, not individual characters but story.

However! On character development, buy citadel DLC for ME 3, really if you are into the carrying over of characters or impact from one game to another, support the ONLY DLC in 7 YEARS or more, that bothered to include the current and previous squad! LOTSB did for 1 squad member I agree, that is the very fortunate exception that many people enjoy. If you don't support the citadel DLC why would another developer remake it, it's the one that made me decide to play through ME 3 again, and buy the other DLC. However and I don't congratulate them for this it took them 7 - 10 years of fans saying we want this for them to bother doing it.  That is making a DLC that engages the current party characters people have loved for years.

Again with ME 4 they will fail again and ignore every single character that earned them money, I know bioware so I know this. They have already said as much which seems likely to shoot themselves in the foot, as always.

I read some reviews, watched some videos, and did not see something I wanted to purchase.  Citadel is unadulterated fanservice.  If I was satisfied with the game and series, then that wouldn't really bother me: it'd be a fun little way to enjoy the conclusion of Shepard's story, chuckling and shaking my head at meta-jokes.  However, with things as they are, it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth; in this light, fanservice seems less like a joking back-and-forth between the devs and fans, and more like an attempt at a cash grab by reminding everyone about all the good stuff that happened in the past while ignoring the ending.  In the end, you have your R&R break, and then the game plows on to its inescapable conclusion.  Citadel is not intended to be the end of the game, and I will not pretend that it is.

Or, put a little more simply: ME3 is a burger, and the Citadel DLC is some bacon for a little more. 

- If the burger is good, and bacon will complement it, then heck yeah, I'll buy that bacon. 
- Even if the bacon won't really complement it, as long as the bacon and burger are both good, why not?  I mean, who doesn't like bacon? 
- But if the burger is bad, then what's the point of getting bacon?  You won't really be able to enjoy it in the middle of all that bad burger, and you're just wasting your money.

In my opinion, of course.  Everyone is welcome to theirs.

Who can say about ME4, or DA3, or any other future BioWare products.  I look forward to them, not because I'm eager to buy them, but because I'm curious as to whether they will prove to be something I feel is worth buying..

[SilJeff]

Edit: double post:ph34r:

Modifié par SilJeff, 19 avril 2013 - 04:36 .

[SilJeff]

For me:
ME1: 7 playthroughs (I think it is a great game, so I play it all the time)
ME2: 7 playthroughs (I think it is a masterpiece, so I play it all the time)
ME3: 7 playthroughs (I think it is great, but massively underrated, so I play it all the time)

And i'm working on my 8th and am already planning a 9th that will also be my 'perfect' playthrough where I also read/watch the expanded universe titles

I think all three games are amazing, and yes, I do NOT mind the EC endings. It gave me closure, gave me enough differences to satisfy me, and filled in basically all the plotholes I noticed (with Leviathan's help of course). And yes, I am ok with the catalyst existing. Here is the opinion on the endings I agree most with: 

http://galacticpillo...ffect-3-ending/

Modifié par SilJeff, 19 avril 2013 - 04:52 .

[Interloper]

TODD9999 wrote...


Or, put a little more simply: ME3 is a burger, and the Citadel DLC is some bacon for a little more. 

- If the burger is good, and bacon will complement it, then heck yeah, I'll buy that bacon. 
- Even if the bacon won't really complement it, as long as the bacon and burger are both good, why not?  I mean, who doesn't like bacon? 
- But if the burger is bad, then what's the point of getting bacon?  You won't really be able to enjoy it in the middle of all that bad burger, and you're just wasting your money.

In my opinion, of course.  Everyone is welcome to theirs.

Who can say about ME4, or DA3, or any other future BioWare products.  I look forward to them, not because I'm eager to buy them, but because I'm curious as to whether they will prove to be something I feel is worth buying..

10/10 for the burger analogy. 

[WoolyJoe]

I played through Mass Effect 2 more, but that was most likely because I was playing it through in preparations for ME3.

So I'm probably on side with the OP, but for different reasons.

Modifié par WoolyJoe, 19 avril 2013 - 04:44 .

[Clips7]

The Sin wrote...

I played ME2 SP way more than ME3 SP for a couple of reasons :-

- The difficulty was better. On Insanity ME2 is way better ME3.
- ME2 had a lot more gameplay than ME3, more combat
- ME2 had a more squad members than ME3
- ME2 has less BS and less autodialogue than ME3
- ME2 had a lot more freedom when it comes to playing. You can pick a lot of your missions, ME3 just pushes you around everywhere
- ME2 has better sidequests than ME3

This....i especially felt it had more interesting squad members than 3 and it had far more freedom in terms of exploring other planets...3 was good but it felt so closed in and linear ( and kinda rushed), and you really couldn't explore the planets...you basically scanned them for information and resources instead of actually landing on them unless the game itself required you to.

I only have ME2 &3 and whenever i play this series, i always start off with2, because for some reason...i can't seem to save both Jack and Miranda...even with full paragon and even with doing both loyalty missions..i have only done it once (and that was beforeME3 dropped) after that i wasn't able to get that neutral blue option in the dialogue branch that causes you to balance out the argument between both miranda and jack.

I end up going on miranda's side of the argument since the neutral option isn't there because...well miranda!!!..........but i'm going to keep trying to save both so i can really see jack in prt3...because i kinda like how she was modeled in 3...

Modifié par Clips7, 20 avril 2013 - 12:12 .

[Pressedcat]

SilJeff wrote...

For me:
ME1: 7 playthroughs (I think it is a great game, so I play it all the time)
ME2: 7 playthroughs (I think it is a masterpiece, so I play it all the time)
ME3: 7 playthroughs (I think it is great, but massively underrated, so I play it all the time)

And i'm working on my 8th and am already planning a 9th that will also be my 'perfect' playthrough where I also read/watch the expanded universe titles

I think all three games are amazing, and yes, I do NOT mind the EC endings. It gave me closure, gave me enough differences to satisfy me, and filled in basically all the plotholes I noticed (with Leviathan's help of course). And yes, I am ok with the catalyst existing. Here is the opinion on the endings I agree most with: 

http://galacticpillo...ffect-3-ending/

That link makes for a really interesting read. I've been intending to start my mostly paragon engineer Shep for some time (as soon as the rest of the dlc goes on sale on XBL), and was unsure which final choice to go for. I always imagined my engineer Shep as being more 'book smart', and that article makes a compelling argument for choosing control.

[Twisted Path]

Glancing through this thread I guess I'm in the minority but I played through ME2 a bazillion times and managed to get through ME3 twice, the second time just for the sake of "winning" with my first Mass Effect character. The reason is pretty simple: I thought Mass Effect 3 was a bad game and didn't enjoy it. It's a huge step down from ME2, what with the constant autodialogue, lack of roleplaying options and poorly written dialogue and overall story.

[N7-RedFox]

Stardusk wrote...

 A questionnaire/ opinion poll...

I did about 20+ runs on ME2, 1.5 on ME3...

What is your story?

I did almost exactly the same. I wanted to play every option in ME2 because it was a great game from start to finish so I tried it with every kit.

I played ME3 through 3 times. Once before EC and twice after EC was released. Male Paragon/ Male Renegade/Female Paragade.

But I struggled to play ME3 SP after that. The ending just left a very sour taste.

What we got:-

1. Shepard dies and becomes a Reaper
2. Shepard dies and forces everyone to integrate with Reapers
3. Shepard destroys the Reapers but is soon to bleed out and die because he just took a huge fire explosion to the face and there are no medics around to save him.


What we should have got:-

1. Shepard destroys the Reapers and escapes the Citadel
2. Shepard dies and the Reapers harvest everyone
3. Shepard forges a truce with the Reapers and both sides accept cease-fire... for now

Modifié par N7-RedFox, 20 avril 2013 - 09:47 .

[radishson]

I'm probably one of the few people here who only played each game once. That's moreso because I don't like replaying games in general - I find it boring when you've already seen what happens.

I know having different types of Shepards can add replay value for some people, but my FemShep is the only one who will ever be canon to me and playing a new one would ruin that feeling.

Modifié par radishson, 21 avril 2013 - 03:37 .

[IST]

I've rolled ME3 twice, loved it so much more the second time (with Leviathan and Omega included), am currently doing a a ME1->ME2->ME3 playthrough with all associated DLC, just finished ME2 and to be honest, ME3 couldn't come fast enough.. hanging out for the faster paced gameplay and smarter enemies on insanity (ofcourse).

It is probably just as much my keenness for Citadel (haven't played it yet) that is also talking, but i'm REALLY hanging out to get back into ME3 multiplayer (definite Bioware Redemption Zone material) and ME3 in general.

I'm 100% fine with the ending and all (WITH extended cut, it literally made a huge difference to me, even if it wasn't that much content which is odd), also I found that Leviathan answered so many questions, it makes the context of the ME3 ending alot more plausable and understandable.

IMO anyways.

LOVE YOU LONGTIME MASS EFFECT.

Proud N7 Vest Wearing Member,

DEMIKLY. 

[IST]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

 A questionnaire/ opinion poll...

I did about 20+ runs on ME2, 1.5 on ME3...

What is your story?

I did almost exactly the same. I wanted to play every option in ME2 because it was a great game from start to finish so I tried it with every kit.

I played ME3 through 3 times. Once before EC and twice after EC was released. Male Paragon/ Male Renegade/Female Paragade.

But I struggled to play ME3 SP after that. The ending just left a very sour taste.

What we got:-

1. Shepard dies and becomes a Reaper
2. Shepard dies and forces everyone to integrate with Reapers
3. Shepard destroys the Reapers but is soon to bleed out and die because he just took a huge fire explosion to the face and there are no medics around to save him.


What we should have got:-

1. Shepard destroys the Reapers and escapes the Citadel
2. Shepard dies and the Reapers harvest everyone
3. Shepard forges a truce with the Reapers and both sides accept cease-fire... for now

Bittersweet was the way to go, Destroy feels like a good end to a great trilogy.

Also, a truce with the Reapers??? .. um, they don't seem the truce forging type bro..

[Display Name Owner]

There are a few things I don't like about the story, which doesn't help replayability. The Cerberus heavy campaign made the whole Reaper war pretty underwhelming, relative to expectations at least. I can't help but think about the things I would have liked to see done differently.

I guess what 1 and 2 had that 3 doesn't is the feeling that all your actions will add up and have consequences, which isn't really 3's fault, since it is the last in the series. But we see what things added up to in 3, some of it's great (Genophage arc for example), some of it really isn't (Collector base, Cerberus arc, etc.).

The Citadel fetch quests really don't help either.

I still think ME3's a great game and I really do enjoy playing it. It IS better than ME2 (I'm undecided as to ME1. It definitely trumps it in terms of gameplay, but ME1 feels so different to the other 2 it's difficult to compare). But yeah, the anticlimactic ending and some other flaws really break my immersion. I find I kind of go through spells of playing it loads and not touching it at all.

[Neizd]

ME2 - Variables that you get by replaying the whole story...and decisions at the end, give you a lot of endings for ME2, each different. Played it 20+ times or more.

ME3 - Just reload save game...because big ben standing or not doesn't make much difference. Played it 2 times. One paragon, one renegade and that's all.

[Reever]

Time. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime!!!!!

And I still got 4 playthroughs on ME3. With many more to follow...

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The final 10 minutes of the game ruined it for me.

[xmeduo]

Dont feel like going into detail.

ME2 had alot more depth. Characters better were developed, story was great and combat was great. Being commander Sheppard in that game actually felt BA. Not to mention I think the OST and level design was better.

Not to mention.... the ending of me2 a bit more dynamic. Everything you do during the game can mean your success or failure.

[MrFob]

There are a couple of reasons for this, I guess.

- Well, the ending has to be mentioned, there is no way around it. After playing through for the first time, I simply didn't have the stomach to start another run through before the EC came out.
- I think I played ME1 a lot because it was very new at the time and there were no other games that blended dialogue and shooter gameplay like ME did at the time
- ME2 was very well structured for replaying it because you could just do a mission here and one thee, than take a brake and come back. This doesn't work as well with ME3
- My job demands a lot more time now than 5 years ago
- ME3 got me into trying to figure out how games work, rather than playing ME3, So I fiddle around with it instead of plazying it. If the time spent on this counts as playing time (I am playing around with the game after all), then I easily spent just as many hours on ME3 than on its predecessors.

[Star fury]

ME 1&2 - 6-7 playthroughs.

ME3 - one and only one.

Reason?
Non-linearity was lost, it's like railway.

Main missions except Tuchanka and Rannoch really suck.

Sidequests are horrible in DA2 style.

Choices matter, duh.

Endings... Extended cut didn't fix it. 

Modifié par Star fury, 22 avril 2013 - 12:04 .

[Sanunes]

I have been able to complete ME3 a few times, but from my experience the biggest thing holding me back is going through the ending again. Now its not because they are bad (they aren't the best by any means) its because in all previous Mass Effect games I have been able to skip over the parts I don't like, but in Mass Effect 3 I had to sit and watch the end of the game each time without being able to skip any of it.

[Kiadaw]

I am the opposite, I played ME3 twice, & all the DLC, but can't play ME2 again, due to the chore of planet scanning.

[idunhavaname]

Priority: Earth. Thats why.

No no its not because of the ending, its because of the mission before that. Earth was the most dull misison I have ever experienced and not because it lacked boss fights. In ME2, you always look forward to ME2 Suicide MIssions. The epic soundtrack, the ability to choose who leads. Those are the things that made me love the last mission of ME2. I can't say the same with ME3 Earth. Worst part is, they used the same soundtrack from previous missions.

[Saito404]

I would rather drink molten metal than play ME2 again.

[mwags85]

ME1 and ME2, multiple times. Can't even count. Amazing games!! ME3 only twice and never purchased a piece of DLC for it, total bullcrap.

Modifié par mwags85, 23 avril 2013 - 04:44 .