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[mykejm]

Original Stikman wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I don't think anyone ever said that Gold is more difficult than Platinum, merely that Platinum is a lot more boring because of the boss spam (YES, PHANTOMS ARE BOSSES, DEAL WITH IT).

no boss in the game is trivialed by the scorpion or acolyte

deal with it

Yet the Phantoms are 'boss' enough that people equip sidearms specifically to deal with them.

Which other unit is like that?

Modifié par mykejm, 12 avril 2013 - 02:53 .

[FMultimedia]

 I didn't read all the replies, so maybe someone mentioned this already, but don't other factors beyond type / number of enemies count? I know that's important, but, what about:

* reduced ammo/nades on Plat?
* shorter dmg immunity length after reviving? (hell that alone makes the play MUCH harder when there are enemies on top of your body!)
* enemies increased shields/health?
* enemies increased dmg?
* probably a thousand other tweaks such as dmg caps and stuff we're not even aware of?

Don't all these factors in those waves which as supposedly hard on plat than on gold?

(links from here, including credits)

Modifié par FMultimedia, 12 avril 2013 - 03:21 .

[Simbacca]

Disciple888 wrote...

all the bsn silver players became gold players thru power creep and now hate on plat cuz

scrubs gonna scrub

FTFY

The same excuses are made all over the interwebz

"i don't play plat cuz it's just boss spam"

Eh, no.  It spawns enough bosses (atlas, banshee, prime, praetorian) that you actually have to deal with them during the rounds, instead of just continually ignoring the one or two that spawn during gold rounds to deplete the spawn budget with loltroopers, but it also spawns plenty of mid-tier enemies.

Then they invariably respond with:

"don't like how plat limits what classes I can use since you have to use the OP weapon DPS classes"

to which you can rightfully respond with:  l2p plat scrub

The plat complainers everywhere do so so they don't have to admit they just don't want to or can't step up their game.  They want to believe that playing gold puts them in the elite since it used to be the max difficulty.

Modifié par Simbacca, 12 avril 2013 - 03:23 .

[me0120]

I really hope we can get Stikman published.

[Disciple888]

eloquently put.  This here be the reason y u on my friends list

Simbacca wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

all the bsn silver players became gold players thru power creep and now hate on plat cuz

scrubs gonna scrub

FTFY

The same excuses are made all over the interwebz

"i don't play plat cuz it's just boss spam"

Eh, no.  It spawns enough bosses (atlas, banshee, prime, praetorian) that you actually have to deal with them during the rounds, instead of just continually ignoring the one or two that spawn during gold rounds to deplete the spawn budget with loltroopers, but it also spawns plenty of mid-tier enemies.

Then they invariably respond with:

"don't like how plat limits what classes I can use since you have to use the OP weapon DPS classes"

to which you can rightfully respond with:  l2p plat scrub

The plat complainers everywhere do so so they don't have to admit they just don't want to or can't step up their game.  They want to believe that playing gold puts them in the elite since it used to be the max difficulty.

[Sulaco_7]

Of course platinum is harder.

You don't see people hiding in a box in gold Rio do you?

[me0120]

Sulaco_7 wrote...

Of course platinum is harder.

You don't see people hiding in a box in gold Rio do you?

There have been such threads.

[Happy Shepard]

If it makes you feel better, yes Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.

Skill matters. N7 doesn't. Biotic Slash spammers are noobs, grenades spammers are skilled players.

My name doesn't make sense and your trollbaits are boring.

[Cyonan]

It's more accurate to say that Platinum is a DPS race rather than boss mob spam.

[Dorick]

TC, I completely agree with you on this, "Boss Spam" is a made up term to make gold players feel like they dont suck.

[Xaijin]

Slojack wrote...

I like when title makes the thread sound like a college thesis paper.

From a backwater community college, where the thesis writer thinks he just discovered something that people were writing about 50 years earlier.

not boss rush

Pretty sure 3/4 of a wave budget consisting of bosses is exactly that.

Modifié par Xaijin, 12 avril 2013 - 04:07 .

[Original Twigman]

Xaijin wrote...

Slojack wrote...

I like when title makes the thread sound like a college thesis paper.

From a backwater community college, where the thesis writer thinks he just discovered something that people were writing about 50 years earlier.

not boss rush

Pretty sure 3/4 of a wave budget consisting of bosses is exactly that.

lol, more butthurt... where is Ashen's Butthurt Form?

[viper_veteran]

Original Stikman wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

What makes gold somewhat more difficult is the packs of infantry that spawn.

no

It is well known that the majority of the time gamers don't get killed by a banshee for instance but by the maruders and cannibals that accompany her. Tried running past a group of maruders and got elbowed to death/shot.

I'm going to go out on a limb here but I am guessing that if bioware published details on how many gamers die to particular enemies it would be infantry/elite infantry units that'll make the bulk of it.

[FlowCytometry]

Dorick wrote...

TC, I completely agree with you on this, "Boss Spam" is a made up term to make gold players feel like they dont suck.

I dunno about others, but I'd use the term 'boss spam' as a derogatory remark as to the nature of the difficulty increase being poorly implemented, not to indicate that I think its actually easier than gold. Gold sans collectors is way easier, and also way more lenient w/ accepted builds in public lobbies.

[megawug]

Wow... the elitist BSN rhetoric on this thread has reached North Korean levels.

[Simbacca]

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.

Gold players that are happy there and don't act elitest aren't scrubs.

Gold players that try to act like they're just as good as platinum players, making "boss spam" excuses to try and cover the fact that they simply can't hang, trying to imply that they're somehow righteous for not playing a "poorly implemented difficulty" (another excuse), are scrubs.  They could develop the skill with some effort but the fact that they hold themselves back with poor, bitter excuses instead is what makes them scrubs.

Modifié par Simbacca, 12 avril 2013 - 04:56 .

[cgj]

when you play on plat you certainly kill more bosses than you do on gold but I'm fine with it
i don't understand really why so many think platinum is poorly implemented
mixed enemies, tougher enemies, more of the dangerous units, i don't think they could have done much better, mixing factions was a great idea

i mean, it sounds like many wanted a gold 2.0 which because of how the game is designed would have been almost just as easy

[Xaijin]

Original Stikman wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Slojack wrote...

I like when title makes the thread sound like a college thesis paper.

From a backwater community college, where the thesis writer thinks he just discovered something that people were writing about 50 years earlier.

not boss rush

Pretty sure 3/4 of a wave budget consisting of bosses is exactly that.

lol, more butthurt... where is Ashen's Butthurt Form?

Droll that you think giving your topics the amount and tone they deserve is any kind of butthurt at all.



tldr; your topics and logic are kind of special, and not the kind of special you assume they are.

Modifié par Xaijin, 12 avril 2013 - 05:06 .

[Happy Shepard]

Simbacca wrote...

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.

Gold players that are happy there and don't act elitest aren't scrubs.

Gold players that try to act like they're just as good as platinum players, making "boss spam" excuses to try and cover the fact that they simply can't hang, trying to imply that they're somehow righteous for not playing a "poorly implemented difficulty" (another excuse), are scrubs.  They could develop the skill with some effort but the fact that they hold themselves back with poor, bitter excuses instead is what makes them scrubs.

How many BSners are actually arguing that Gold is harder than Platinum? And can you prove they're not able to beat Platinum? Numbers and videos or screenshots, please. At least put some effort in your theory of epic butthurt.

But again, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and call others scrubs in a coop game. I'd really like to know how some of the new supposed elite perform in actual PvP games. I bet they're getting annihilated constantly and then try to cover their insecurities by stroking their e-peen in a coop game. They could develop the skill with some effort but they prefer acting like pros at killing enemies with poor AI behaviour and doing Platinum solos or speedruns.

Don't try to answer because everything you'll say will be dismissed as bitter excuses. I'm out.

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 12 avril 2013 - 05:26 .

[FlowCytometry]

Simbacca wrote...

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.

Gold players that are happy there and don't act elitest aren't scrubs.

Gold players that try to act like they're just as good as platinum players, making "boss spam" excuses to try and cover the fact that they simply can't hang, trying to imply that they're somehow righteous for not playing a "poorly implemented difficulty" (another excuse), are scrubs.  They could develop the skill with some effort but the fact that they hold themselves back with poor, bitter excuses instead is what makes them scrubs.

I'm not elite nor trying to fake it- just pointing out that not all difficulty increases are well done. If you like plat- have fun and enjoy the rewards. Me? I'm fine in 'scrubland', cause I'm still having fun even this late into the game's lifecycle.

[Original Twigman]

Xaijin wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Slojack wrote...

I like when title makes the thread sound like a college thesis paper.

From a backwater community college, where the thesis writer thinks he just discovered something that people were writing about 50 years earlier.

not boss rush

Pretty sure 3/4 of a wave budget consisting of bosses is exactly that.

lol, more butthurt... where is Ashen's Butthurt Form?

Droll that you think giving your topics the amount and tone they deserve is any kind of butthurt at all.



tldr; your topics and logic are kind of special, and not the kind of special you assume they are.

yet you still come here to make sure you are "putting me in my place"

lol, please continue

[Original Twigman]

Happy Shepard wrote...

Simbacca wrote...

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.

Gold players that are happy there and don't act elitest aren't scrubs.

Gold players that try to act like they're just as good as platinum players, making "boss spam" excuses to try and cover the fact that they simply can't hang, trying to imply that they're somehow righteous for not playing a "poorly implemented difficulty" (another excuse), are scrubs.  They could develop the skill with some effort but the fact that they hold themselves back with poor, bitter excuses instead is what makes them scrubs.

How many BSners are actually arguing that Gold is harder than Platinum?

There was a thread on it in the first page for hours. Several posters here have argued it as well.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Platinum is boring as **** because of equipment and rockets. Deal with it. I soloed it, I never return to it.

[kaileena_sands]

megawug wrote...

Wow... the elitist BSN rhetoric on this thread has reached North Korean levels.

Elitism on BSN has reached critical mass! Abandon thread! I repeat, abandon thread! 

Simbacca wrote...

The plat complainers everywhere do so so they don't have to admit they just don't want to or can't step up their game.  They want to believe that playing gold puts them in the elite since it used to be the max difficulty.

You assume that many people give a damn about getting an "elite" title. Hint: They don't. Lol, elite players in ME MP.  I would also say a few more things about your post, but I don't want to get banned twice this week. My quota is only 3 times per month.

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 12 avril 2013 - 05:43 .

[Disciple888]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Platinum is boring as **** because of equipment and rockets. Deal with it. I soloed it, I never return to it.

lolgiant