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Let's get this over with: Platinum > Gold and isn't a Boss Spam; A Case Study on Cerberus Platinum vs. Cerberus Gold


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#151
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Happy Shepard wrote...

Simbacca wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

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Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.


Gold players that are happy there and don't act elitest aren't scrubs.

Gold players that try to act like they're just as good as platinum players, making "boss spam" excuses to try and cover the fact that they simply can't hang, trying to imply that they're somehow righteous for not playing a "poorly implemented difficulty" (another excuse), are scrubs.  They could develop the skill with some effort but the fact that they hold themselves back with poor, bitter excuses instead is what makes them scrubs.


How many BSners are actually arguing that Gold is harder than Platinum? And can you prove they're not able to beat Platinum? Numbers and videos or screenshots, please. At least put some effort in your theory of epic butthurt.

But again, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and call others scrubs in a coop game. I'd really like to know how some of the new supposed elite perform in actual PvP games. I bet they're getting annihilated constantly and then try to cover their insecurities by stroking their e-peen in a coop game. They could develop the skill with some effort but they prefer acting like pros at killing enemies with poor AI behaviour and doing Platinum solos or speedruns.

Don't try to answer because everything you'll say will be dismissed as bitter excuses. I'm out.


You're butthurt is showing.

It's doesn't make me feel any better at all, heck I wasn't even talking about you.  Don't do speedruns either, anyone can spawn nuke.  The point, if you could ever see it through you massive butthurt, was that if complainers spent half as much time playing platinum as they do whining about it, gold would start feeling as boring as silver to them too.  But go ahead and keep holding yourselves back instead, and getting defensive when your epeens are deflated.


As i assumed, only bitter excuses. 

My point, if you could ever comprehend it, was that maybe not everyone cares as much about skill as you or other special individuals do and actually have thoughts not solely based on insecurities or jealousy of your greatness. But go ahead and keep belittling others for their opinions. It always makes my day when you guys try to troll. It's as entertaining as german sketch comedy shows.

But this time i'm really out. Have to treat my massive butthurt so i can sleep tight tonight.


I thought you were out?  Your frail ego means you just couldn't hold to it, huh.  I never claimed to be great, I simply respond the general sentiment around the net of some players that their somehow better for not playing platinum.  I rather them actually try and expand the plat players pool.  You weren't even one of them when I posted but your insecurity doesn't let you keep quiet.  Then you try to bring a whole off-topic other games argument into a BSN ME3 forum post because you have no ground to stand on.  So, as was already pointed out, your butthurt is showing.

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Simbacca wrote...

It spawns enough bosses (atlas, banshee, prime, praetorian) that you actually have to deal with them during the rounds, instead of just continually ignoring the one or two that spawn during gold rounds to deplete the spawn budget with loltroopers, but it also spawns plenty of mid-tier enemies.


This just shows what you know.

The fastest way to deplete the spawn budget is to focus on the elites (Phantoms, Dragoons, Ravagers, Hunters, Rocket Troopers, Pyros, Brutes, Scions) instead of either bosses or mooks. On Gold or Platinum.

If you focus on Atlases and Banshees on Platinum, you haven't learned all you could about this game yet.


By deal, I meant deal with them attacking you.  You can't always as completely and easily avoid them as you can on the other difficulties (especially on small maps).  They will shoot you more often.

But continue misconstruing points so you can feel superior.

Modifié par Simbacca, 12 avril 2013 - 04:12 .


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I don't understand why is it a debate about Platinum difficulty at all when you can have a team having 4 Armored Compartments V giving 36 rockets for the game. And Cain Mines. But, Mr. "we could ROFLSTOMP Hydra/Collector/Gold anytime with using only light melee" PlatinumMasters NEVER EVER use such a thing. I know, I know, sorry, my bad.

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 I'm surprise this is still going on...What about a poll? :D

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While Platinum is certainly more difficult than Gold, and while Phantoms technically aren’t bosses, they’re certainly difficult enough to count as such, and I think that’s why people make the argument. With the classes I typically play (recently it’s been Drell Infi, Juggernaut, and Collector), phantoms pose very little issue, but for some classes, they’re an absolute nightmare, and more so than almost all other units in the game. Again, I personally agree that Platinum is harder (although only because it relies on absolute DPS more than anything else, which makes it more difficult to play many of the less weapons-based classes), but I’m sure for some people, dealing with phantoms on Gold keeps them up at night.

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Original Branchman.... You got to teach me how to start riots.

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Hahaha guys this thread has some REAL gems in it!! :D:D:D

I'm just skimming through it and I have to say, bsn never fails to amuse me! :lol::lol::lol:

Here are some of the best:

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.


"Boss Spam" is a made up term to make gold players feel like they dont suck.



Any other I missed?


Hahaha please, please, please, keep this up guys... My day's getting better and better :D

Modifié par Deerber, 12 avril 2013 - 04:27 .


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I thought you were out? Your frail ego means you just couldn't hold to it, huh. I never claimed to be great, I simply respond the general sentiment around the net of some players that their somehow better for not playing platinum. I rather them actually try and expand the plat players pool. You weren't even one of them when I posted but your insecurity doesn't let you keep quiet. Then you try to bring a whole off-topic other games argument into a BSN ME3 forum post because you have no ground to stand on. So, as was already pointed out, your butthurt is showing.

ugh..

no, not everyone deriding platinum as 'boss spam' is trying to claim they are a better player because they don't play plat. Just because you are good at something doesn't mean you have to like it- ask anyone that's had to speedrun how they like doing the same thing over and over on one map.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 12 avril 2013 - 04:38 .


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Deerber wrote...

Hahaha guys this thread has some REAL gems in it!! :D:D:D

I'm just skimming through it and I have to say, bsn never fails to amuse me! :lol::lol::lol:

Here are some of the best:

Platinum is the elite difficulty and all the Gold players are scrubs.


"Boss Spam" is a made up term to make gold players feel like they dont suck.



Any other I missed?


Hahaha please, please, please, keep this up guys... My day's getting better and better :D


I can't tell if this armchair psychology is funnier than the armchair psychology about nerfers.

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this thread delivers

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Blegh IDC plat or Gold

Plats only harder cause all the dmges are raised along with having mixed trooper assortment which can be flipping annoying the "Bosses/mid bosses" lesser extent of annoyance than the mix grouping

Gold...yeah it can be a tad rough but man it's really not hard to organize up a team for it most time...and to be quite honest....it's not much step behind plats difficulty it's just more "predictable"

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Daforth wrote...

I don't understand why is it a debate about Platinum difficulty at all when you can have a team having 4 Armored Compartments V giving 36 rockets for the game. And Cain Mines. But, Mr. "we could ROFLSTOMP Hydra/Collector/Gold anytime with using only light melee" PlatinumMasters NEVER EVER use such a thing. I know, I know, sorry, my bad.


I don't understand this comment. Are you saying Platinum difficulty is moot because of Armored Compartments?

If so, you could say the same thing taking that into gold

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Phantoms are bosses.  They are the hardest unit in the faction (some people say in any faction), and that alone makes them bosses.  Also, they can sync-kill.  And as far as being bullet sponges, I've seen Phantoms soak up more damage than a Brute or a Scion, if you factor in blocked powers and on-host DR.

Also, Platinum is boss spam.  That's why maximum armor DPS is the most important criteria for an effective Platinum build.  I'm not using "boss spam" in a derogatory sense - it just accurately describes what you face in Platinum.  And yes, it's harder than Gold.

Modifié par Miniditka77, 12 avril 2013 - 05:23 .


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Original Stikman wrote...

Daforth wrote...

I don't understand why is it a debate about Platinum difficulty at all when you can have a team having 4 Armored Compartments V giving 36 rockets for the game. And Cain Mines. But, Mr. "we could ROFLSTOMP Hydra/Collector/Gold anytime with using only light melee" PlatinumMasters NEVER EVER use such a thing. I know, I know, sorry, my bad.


I don't understand this comment. Are you saying Platinum difficulty is moot because of Armored Compartments?

If so, you could say the same thing taking that into gold


Yepp, that is what I am saying. Difficulty does not matter, execution does. Hence, arguing about difficulty has no sense. As well braging about platinum supremacy. The only sense of this debate would be to compare congrete game setups (map/faction/difficulty level) with concrete team setups, executions and then arguing which harder. Otherwise it is a moot point.

Modifié par Daforth, 12 avril 2013 - 05:39 .


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Miniditka77 wrote...

Phantoms are bosses.  They are the hardest unit in the faction (some people say in any faction), and that alone makes them bosses.  Also, they can sync-kill.  And as far as being bullet sponges, I've seen Phantoms soak up more damage than a Brute or a Scion, if you factor in blocked powers and on-host DR.

Also, Platinum is boss spam.  That's why maximum armor DPS is the most important criteria for an effective Platinum build.  I'm not using "boss spam" in a derogatory sense - it just accurately describes what you face in Platinum.  And yes, it's harder than Gold.


1)Primes are the hardest.
2) brutes can sync-kill
3) on-host DR isnt intended.

if we go by your definition of boss spam, then gold is just much a boss spam as platinum for Cerberus.

Compaing (using phantoms as "bosses") Cerb Gold vs. Cerb Platin, the amount of bosses is 30/37 (I might be missing one or two due to some errors on Cyonan's list)

The amount of bosses from Waves 6-10 for the two is 1:1, until wave 11, where gold exceeds Platinum by 2

This is if you count Phantoms as bosses....

So, if you do count them as bosses then "boss spam" is incongruos with the actual game-play as gold seems to not be too far behind, and even surpasses Platinum in the last half of the round.

Phantoms are not bosses

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Original Stikman wrote...



3) on-host DR isnt intended.


Phantoms are not bosses

Well, if I can remember, a dev said somewhere that the DR was supposed to work on all players, not just the host. So, the DR is intended, it's just not applied in the intended way, so you are probably incorrect (unless you meant what I am saying). Also, phantoms aren't bosses, but they sure as hell are the second cheapest unit in the game right behind geth primes.

Modifié par robarcool, 12 avril 2013 - 06:24 .


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this thread is comedy gold.

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Phantoms are not bosses. Yes their magic cannon does ridiculous amount of damage, they can sync kill, and sometimes things end badly if they get in melee range unnoticed. That said, they are ridiculously easy to kill for someone who's prepared. One acolyte shot alone is enough to take down their barriers and make them stop. GI + javelin can easily kill them with one shot. Anyone with a maxed out lash will make them look like a joke. There are just too many different ways to deal with them easily within few seconds.

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So in summary: you're saying Platinum is harder than Gold?:huh:

... *slow sarcastic clap*

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Disciple888 wrote...

this thread delivers


Stikman's mikshake brings all the scrubs to yard

and they're like, "i'm betta than ya'll

damn right, i'm betta than ya'll

i can beat you, but it'd have to be gold."


DHKany wrote...

this thread is comedy gold.


This guy gets it.

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Simbacca wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

this thread delivers


Stikman's mikshake brings all the scrubs to yard

and they're like, "i'm betta than ya'll

damn right, i'm betta than ya'll

i can beat you, but it'd have to be gold."


DHKany wrote...

this thread is comedy gold.


ahahaha <3

This guy gets it.



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This thread is great.

but Platinum is still little more than a DPS race =P

Except for wave 10 Collectors which didn't get the memo and throws 6 boss mobs at you. That one is boss mob spam.

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Platinum boss spam gets old fast.

But surely I'm just saying that because I'm a scrub that can't actually play on Platinum.

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Simbacca wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

this thread delivers


Stikman's mikshake brings all the scrubs to yard

and they're like, "i'm betta than ya'll

damn right, i'm betta than ya'll

i can beat you, but it'd have to be gold."



ahahahahaha!

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VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

Platinum boss spam gets old fast.

But surely I'm just saying that because I'm a scrub that can't actually play on Platinum.

 

l2p you scrub

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l3p