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[Y0-Y0Jimb0]

I'm a bit of a late comer to the whole ME series , having played ME2 and ME3 first... I was buired deep in Skyrim land at the time!

Now that I've managed to complete ME1, I'm just blown away as to how good version it is - from the story line, the size and scale of the cites, the actual missions and sub missions, access to all parts of the Normandy,  your contact and interplay with all of the characters inc meeting Souverign , the skills and weapons/upgrades tree. There's a few things that I don't like about the game - the landscapes
are pretty poor, the Geth even on hardcore are too easy to kill, the Mako can drive up 90 degree angles and your locked into 50% of the galaxy map but thats about it. There is so much that is right with ME1 its close to perfection and  I had thought ME2 was a truly epic game.

Currently on a sceond play through this time as a Vanguard and the game is still amazing me. When I've played ME2 after ME1, some of the changes like the skills/weapons tree, totally restricted access to the citadel - its only after playing ME1 did I realise how huge the place was, not being able to go back to planets like Navro and Faros, not being able to walk off the Normandy  when docked or access the ships hold, or the chit chat in the lifts and the list goes on. ME2 would have been the ultimate game had they kept all of the best RPG elements and open world aspects of the game.

Sorry for rambling on .... but I just wanted to praise ME1 !!!

Y0-Y0

[Melierax]

I did not like the Mako, much too bouncy. But i missed the upgrades a lot, skill upgrades as well as ítem upgrades.

But before writing a list of all the things I miss about ME1, I want to put it as simple as I can: ME1 was way more an RPG than ME2/3. Including character development (skills), "open world" (still pretty limited) etc.

Plus: Liara looked a lot different (better, more feminine) in ME1 than she did in ME3

[CDR David Shepard]

ME1 is the "best" to me...simply because without it...ME2 and ME3 wouldn't have been as good.

ME3 is truly my favorite of the three games...but it's only so great because ME1 and ME2 came before it. In my opinion of course.

Either way...I can never play ME3 without playing through ME1 and ME2 first...so in essence...they are all one game to me.

[CDR David Shepard]

Melierax wrote...

I did not like the Mako, much too bouncy. But i missed the upgrades a lot, skill upgrades as well as ítem upgrades.

But before writing a list of all the things I miss about ME1, I want to put it as simple as I can: ME1 was way more an RPG than ME2/3. Including character development (skills), "open world" (still pretty limited) etc.

Plus: Liara looked a lot different (better, more feminine) in ME1 than she did in ME3

Her face was so much better looking in ME3...in my opinion.

[Y0-Y0Jimb0]

Need to go back and check on Liara .. I think your right that she is somehow better in ME1. Other minor things like accessing your teams lockers, taking the lifts, being able to control more of your squads powers and weapons during combat were all done right and your interaction with the Hannar, and others etc is so much better.

The other thing about ME1 is that the story itslef is more complete, from the get go and when you finally meet Soverign is spot on and even Bring Down the Sun as a DLC was excellent. Its not like ME3 where you need to get the DLC's - Leviathan, Ashes etc to get the bigger picture.

Modifié par Y0-Y0Jimb0, 12 avril 2013 - 02:07 .

[Melierax]

For me, ME3 has the smoothest gameplay/controls of all three games, what i really like. But as I said, you lose freedom as the series continues. In ME1 I was able to learn specializations like "Pistol" or "Assault Rifle", which I really missed. It was great to be able to land on a planet and just explore. I would have loved it, but driving the Mako was a pain in the *** and everything seemed so empty, too less "interactions, cutscenes and cinematic staging" if you understand. I always was happy when i completed a planet so i could continue playing the (by far) more exciting story.

I think it is funny how they removed the mako, added scanners, removed scanners and added.. well, scanners in part III again. About the DLCs.. i hate them ^^ they cause games to be released incomplete. "Yeah, we can add that later via DLC and get money for it." Imho, DLCs should only provide aesthetic content. Story and other essential content should be packed together and released in big addons, which legitimate the price. DLCs make developers do sloppy work: Either they release a finished, polished product ("it's done when it's done"), or disguise patches as DLCs.

Ps: http://masseffect.wi...ki/Liara_T'Soni take a look at Liara in the different games. I think, Liara gained some weight and aged a lot in ME3, her nose is different, I liked her slender throat, face and figure-hugging outfits. The corners of her mouth dropped in ME3.

[taglag]

Yes Me1 would have been my favorite, except for the 150 limit on items, and the limited for fem Shepard relationship's.

ME2 is my favorite though, but it is very close. I was not that pleased on my first playthough of ME2, because I missed so may thing trying to hurry, and get to ME3..[ I wish I had never done that ] But when I went back I found I very much enjoyed ME2, I cursed the Mini game a lot at first, but once i got use to it, I enjoyed it, [ quick save..LOL ] but still it was alright.

But I agree, every time I play one, I find something new, and the Choices at the making of a new character also make it very re playable.

The randomized maybe this time i will get all the good armor for everyone aspect is also interesting.

It was very well though out, with a wonderful ending.

   And I think liara is better, voice and all in ME1. I know texture wise this is not the case, but there is a difference about her that I can not quite put my finger on. in the next 2 installments she seems very cold, and un emotional, withdrawn.

Modifié par taglag, 15 avril 2013 - 09:22 .

[BounceDK]

Combine ME1's RPG elements and exploration with ME2's combat mechanics, and you'd have one hell of a game. Instead Bioware did a 180 lol.

[nukembaby]

I'm starting a new ME1 playthrough, my first in 4 years or so, after having played ME3 a few times and ME2 about a dozen times before that. I had forgotten how much more of an RPG ME1 is--I need to re-train myself to think more carefully about weapon and eq stats, mods, squad talent trees, money, etc. It's a nice change of pace from the frenetic fighting of the later games that's for sure. The random item drops (a classic RPG element) in particular make it pretty addictive; I have to find two more Rail Extension VIIs! ME3 multiplayer also does this with its Store--which may explain why it's also so addictive to play.

[taglag]

Yeah I can not seem to get my self to start ME3 again. Having played it through to see all the different colors.

I find my self very depressed, trying to play the Character in 3.. those who have finished the game might understand.

Modifié par taglag, 16 avril 2013 - 09:06 .

[Usefull_idiot]

I liked ME 1 the most. Even though ME 2 and 3 where good, it seems like they dumbed them down a little and made them way too linear.

[Y0-Y0Jimb0]

I kicked off ME3 for teh PC to see if it was any different from the PS3 version and if the Leviathan/Citadel DLC's would some how improve it but nope it was like watching a movie where you get to use the remote once in a while.

So right now I'm back on my 2nd play through of ME1 and my what a difference between the two. I'm enjoying ME1 where as ME3's not even on the same league (graphics excluded).

Mell.. your right on Liara I think she looks much better in ME1 - more natural and feminine. Jokers also better in ME1 than the ME 3, and I noticed that they also changed Aria's as well for ME3 and not for the best as I though she looked perfect in ME2.

Nuke .. right now in ME1, I'm trying to do the same .. this time I've really gone for charisma/intimidate options rather than simply try and fight my way through. I'm also trying to
upgrade all of the characters differently and hopefully making the right choices with weapon mods, armor, which actual weapons to keep and which to sell on. Even driving the Mako around I'm having to be on my toes just in case a Thresher Maws pops out of now where and I've bumped into a few new characters that I totally missed the first time around. I hate the 150 limit on items so I'm constantly trying to sell off older kit and some bugs where your team mates get stuck and then won't move but those are small things compared to the good. There's so many elements to the ME that they got right and makes it a joy to play .

I'm looking forward to taking this Shep into ME2 and see what and who turns up !

[Gerudan]

For me ME2 is the best part of the series. Sure, the actual story was a bit pointless, since it didn't drove the story of the trilogy forward and the skill and update system were a bit too simple, but the controls were the best, the characters were the best and the ending was satisfying.

For me all three games have severe flaws and problems, they are special because of the characters and the fact, that it is a closely connected trilogy, like no other game trilogy in gaming history.

[-TC1989-]

Gerudan wrote...

For me ME2 is the best part of the series. Sure, the actual story was a bit pointless, since it didn't drove the story of the trilogy forward and the skill and update system were a bit too simple, but the controls were the best, the characters were the best and the ending was satisfying.

For me all three games have severe flaws and problems, they are special because of the characters and the fact, that it is a closely connected trilogy, like no other game trilogy in gaming history.

I think I'd have to agree with you about ME2. I'm playing through it right now, and I love the darker theme of the story. I agree too that it is pointless in the long run, but I still enjoy it for what it is. I told myself that ME1 was the best, but playing the trilogy over again, ME2 is just undeniable. Nothing put me more into the moment than the suicide mission, one of the best moments in gaming for me.

[Brako Version 5.0]

Gerudan wrote...

For me ME2 is the best part of the series. Sure, the actual story was a bit pointless, since it didn't drove the story of the trilogy forward and the skill and update system were a bit too simple, but the controls were the best, the characters were the best and the ending was satisfying.

For me all three games have severe flaws and problems, they are special because of the characters and the fact, that it is a closely connected trilogy, like no other game trilogy in gaming history.

Yeah Mass Effect 2 feels like one of those games that was created just for yourself.

For me it was perfection, so much so that the story, voice acting (and very limited interaction compared with ME2), combat, and overall, makes going back to ME1 feel very basic to play.

For me, most of the skill upgrades were pointless in Mass Effect. In ME2 you could actually feel when you upgraded a skill with 4 upgrades, than needing about 15 slots like in the original. I did miss certain weapon and armour upgrades definitely, but not enough for me to crave them.