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[PirateMouse]

Here's a question for those who picked Destroy ...

Would you still pick Destroy if it required you to kill all quarians?

All asari?

All turians?

All humans?

All organics?

How far are you really prepared to go? How far does the end justify the means for you?

[N7Avin180]

All organics? No. A single race? Yes.

[dreamgazer]

Ruthless calculus. Depends on the equation.

[Steelcan]

It depends. But really if Destroy killed organics I'd have some serious beefs with its logic.

[krukow]

Irrelevant since it doesn't.

[XI BlackHawx IX]

All Asari yes without a doubt

Anyone else no

[Argolas]

dreamgazer wrote...

Ruthless calculus. Depends on the equation.

As sad as it may be, I agree.

[Zazzerka]

It would be kind of redundant if it killed all organics.

Here's a question for those who picked Control ...

Would you still pick Control if it required you to enslave all quarians?

All asari?

All turians?

etc.

[PirateMouse]

krukow wrote...

Irrelevant since it doesn't.

Of course it's relevant.  It speaks to what and how much you're willing to justify in your quest for a kill.

[Zazzerka]

PirateMouse wrote...

Of course it's relevant.  It speaks to what and how much you're willing to justify in your quest for a kill.

Auld does this quite a lot better than you.

I hope that stings.

[Steelcan]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I'd sacrifice Miranda to save the asari.

Am I doing it right?

. Not in any way shape or form

Modifié par Steelcan, 12 avril 2013 - 03:40 .

[PirateMouse]

Zazzerka wrote...

It would be kind of redundant if it killed all organics.

Here's a question for those who picked Control ...

Would you still pick Control if it required you to enslave all quarians?

All asari?

All turians?

etc.

Of course not ... but "enslaving" all Reapers is hardly equivalent as it only acts against an enemy force (the most terrible enemy force in the history of the galaxy, in fact).  By contrast, killing all synthetics means murdering friendlies and allies.  Your question and attempted analogy would make sense in this context if the Control ending already required you to "enslave" all synthetics.

That said, if you still want to pursue that, make your own thread about it.

[XI BlackHawx IX]

Steelcan wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I'd sacrifice Miranda to save the asari.

Am I doing it right?

. Not in any way shape or form

[PirateMouse]

Zazzerka wrote...

PirateMouse wrote...

Of course it's relevant.  It speaks to what and how much you're willing to justify in your quest for a kill.

Auld does this quite a lot better than you.

I hope that stings.

No, I'm not really bothered by it.  You're welcome to troll away if you like; it only reflects on you really.

This is a serious question.  I really want to get people to think about it and see what they say.

[Tom Lehrer]

Everyone went into the war knowing full well they may not come out of it alive, the Geth included.

[PinkToolTheater]

I'd sacrifice the Yahg, Batarians, Vorcha, Jellyfish together with Geth

[Zazzerka]

PirateMouse wrote...

This is a serious question.  I really want to get people to think about it and see what they say.

If you say so. These kinds of threads have a track record.

You could start by not assuming that we all get our rocks off to genocide.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

all organics,no what's the point.Let the cycle continue.But as Garrus said,10 billion over here die so 20 billion over there can live.

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 12 avril 2013 - 03:54 .

[PirateMouse]

Zazzerka wrote...

PirateMouse wrote...

This is a serious question.  I really want to get people to think about it and see what they say.

If you say so. These kinds of threads have a track record.

You could start by not assuming that we all get our rocks off to genocide.

I didn't say you "get your rocks off" on it, though I've never shied away from calling it what it is.  I am implying and do believe that some of you justify it past what you'd be willing to do if it meant sacrificing people you cared about more.  I'm reminded of an argument Ashley made about how sacrificing aliens would be like sacrificing your dog -- how you love your dog but would do it anyway if you had to? Just take that and apply it to friendly synthetics instead.

On the other hand, I'm quite sure there are at least some who would be willing to sacrifice any or even all current advanced organics if it meant killing the Reapers.  I'll even go so far as to say that I could, myself, make the case for doing so, despite the fact I would hardly agree with such a decision.  In any case, part of the point of this thread is to get at that question and see how close to the mark I may or may not be.

And for this record this Auld, whomever that is? I'm not Auld.  I'm me.

Modifié par PirateMouse, 12 avril 2013 - 03:57 .

[Ruadh]

How many species would you have to sacrifice before it stopped being destroy and became refuse?

[Clayless]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

Everyone went into the war knowing full well they may not come out of it alive, the Geth included.

Though I don't think anyone went into the war knowing that, even if there's other ways for them to win and survive, their entire race will be wiped out by one of their allies.

[dreamgazer]

PirateMouse wrote...

This is a serious question.  I really want to get people to think about it and see what they say.

There are many, many hypotheticals for more "complicated" scenarios involving each of the three endings.  

What if Synthesis forced all synthetic life to appear aesthetically indistinguishable from organic life?

What if ReaperShep was, in fact, guaranteed to pull a David Archer after a predetermined period of time?

It really doesn't accomplish anything though, especially after a year of "discussion" on the topic.  It is what it is.

[Reorte]

Controllers, if Control was stated to have a given probability of failure (things going back to how they were) how high would that probability have to be to make you choose Destroy instead? Synthesis is out of the question just for the sake of argument here.

[PirateMouse]

Reorte wrote...

Controllers, if Control was stated to have a given probability of failure (things going back to how they were) how high would that probability have to be to make you choose Destroy instead? Synthesis is out of the question just for the sake of argument here.

Why don't you make your own thread for this?