remydat wrote...
Fade9wayz wrote...
It's a flimsy bet, but that's the best I can do. As for the argument of future synthetics thinking that all organic life is against them based on that choice, it doesn't really hold. The only ones who know about this choice are the Catalyst and Shepard. One is utterly wiped, the other very likely dies as well, and if not, can keep this to her/himself, which is what I would do.
The legend of Shep is told throughout the times as the Old Man and Boy note. It is actually worse if the story is told without people knowing there was a choice. If people know there was a choice then it could be rationalized that the decision to kill synthetics in Destroy was simply the fault of one man Mr. Super AI. You can't blame us for that.
If all we know is this machined killed the Reapers and all synthetics ie there was no choice then the conclusion is that the organics tried to solve a threat to both synthetics and orgnanics by creating a machine that killed all synthetics. ALL. Not only that, this machine that killed ALL synthetics was created by organics over millions of years. So try convincing Mr. Super AI that every single cylce and thus every single organic race over millions of years designed a weapon that was designed to eliminate all synthetic races. You basically just prove to Mr Super AI that this was not a choice by one man but a concerted effort by orgnanics over millions if not billions of years to kill two birds with one stone ie kill Reapers and eliminate the synthetic threat.
Now explain to me how you are going to convince it you built a machine with such a scale that just magically killed all synthetics but you had no clue. This dude will be like WTF, do you think I am some dumb AI like those Geth you eradicated?
Oh yeah, I'll give you that I forgot about that last, useless scene. That scene only makes sense for me in the Refuse choice where it actually brings closure. Not so much in the other choices, especially since they released the EC.
Back to topic.You seem to forget that all these past civilisations that led to the crucible were completely annihilated by a super-race of what? Synthetics. Synthetics they didn't even know about, let alone threatened. Cycles after cycles of organics were relentlessly erased by the same Synthetics who didn't care about how the future organics would feel about that, not that they ever tried to make friends with organics anyway. If that super AI has any shred of logic, its natural conclusion should be that it is normal, that in the context of war and desperate choices for self-preservation, organics wouldn't hesitate to use any means to destroy the threat, even if it means indiscriminately destroying any other tech advanced enough to suffer from a large scale sorta-EMP beam.
If that super AI feels that threatened by organics past choices, even if in that new civilisation it exists in a much more open and accepting context, then too bad for it. It will need to grow a thicker skin, so to speak, and either suck it up and prove a AI can be fully integrated in a diverse galactic civilsation, like EDI did, or take drastic measures to ensure its own self-preservation. After all the Geth did just that in the Morning War. Besides, history proved that synthetics are not the only one concerned. The Rachni were almost wiped out and only survived by sheer luck. The Krogans were neutered when they were deemed too much of a threat for the galaxy as well.
Anyway, you can't judge the descendants of a nation by the acts of some of their ancestors. Besides, it's not like there is no hope since the whole Geth/Quarians affair at least proved there is room for reconcilitation and cooperation when both parties are willing to work things out.
As it is, we simply differ on moral stands here. I find it much more unbearable to inflict a super-tyrant AI on the whole galactic community than taking the risk of wiping any sentient life in this cycle in the hope the next galactic civilisation, organic or synthetic, can grow and develop freely. The best way to ensure that is destroy. As it is, other synthetics are destroyed in the process, but it's not like organics survive this without a scratch either, Batarians were almost wiped out, depending of the player's choices, Hanar and Drells are essentially exctinct, Krogans and Rachni too.
The ironic thing is that Geth might have survived if they hadn't just integrated Reaper code... So I don't see why I should be afraid a future hypothetical AI might feel hurt in its feelings that organics might so selfishly chose self-preservation in such an extreme context.
Edit: tldr, judging things out of their context is no good.
Besides, I don't see why you care so much about our motivations for chosing Destroy. I don't care for your motivations in chosing Control or Synthesis, it's just a game after all, and I might very well take the other choices in other playthroughs for sh** and giggles.
Modifié par Fade9wayz, 13 avril 2013 - 11:18 .
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