remydat wrote...
The Twilight God
Leviathan confirms it's story. It tells me I will die which is usually not a good idea if you are trying to lie. Its dumb logic is precisely the dumb logic I would expect a machine to make.
Are you not reading. How can it lie about Synthesis or Control not killing Shepard? He
HAS to kill himself to perform them so it can't lie about it. Lying would be the dumbest thing it could do in that regard.
"Hey, jump head first down into that chasm. Don't worry, the fall or the energy beam won't kill you. Scout's honor."
Or
"Hey take hold of those live electrical prongs. You'll be fine. Oh, that pain and skin disintegration... ignore that and walk it off later"remydat wrote...
The problem it identifies was perfectly shown in the game when organic races tried to exterminate or exterminatd 2 synthetic races and still have laws that say synthetics should not exist. It admits its mistake once new data in the form of the crucible and Shep is provied.
It isn't new data. The fact that it PREBUILT the devices for Synthesis and Control meant the Reapers had a working knowledge of the Crucible and pre-prepared accordingly. It had to know exactly what the Crucible was and was capable of doing to make devices to utilize it. And dispite this they fought to keep it from docking and claim to have tried to destroy the concept???
The Quarians do not demonstrate that any organic race will inevitably try to kill off any synthetic race. It shows that the Quarians tried to kill off a synthetic race. What next, does a black father not taking care of his kids prove all black men past and present don't take care of their kids. What you propose is a intergalactic negative stereotyping of the Milky Way.
If anything it would generate a positive stereotype as the Geth did not wipe out the Quarians when they easily could have. Furthermore, peace was established not surprisingly in a cycle in which things did NOT go as planned for the Reapers. In the Prothean cycle Javik mentions an organic race who was self synthesized with an AI race. The conflict, JUST LIKE IN THE PRESENT CYCLE, did not occur until the Reapers stepped in and instigated it. Funny how the Reapers destroyed even the synthesized society without a second thought.
Good luck with Synthesis.
remydat wrote...
The purpose I was referring to was that of the Catalyst not Shep. We can agree Shep's pupose was to destroy the Reapers. Then he learned the full story and that destroying the Reapers meant killing EDI and the Geth and my Shep would not allow that.
He didn't learn anything. He was told a story that he has no reason to believe in 100% truthful given the source. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Geth were wiped out. That is your headcanon. And risking galactic society to save one individual (EDI) is beyond insanely reckless. As a player there is no real penalty for such recklessness, but for Shepard (if it was real life) that is beyond crazy.
remydat wrote...
You are in no position to conclude whether it served it's call. If we could peak into an alternative universe without the Reapers and see that a Super AI race was created and exterminated all life then one would conclude, the harvest served its purpose.
Of course I am in a position and I concluded it did not serve its cause. It did not preserve life. That is an objective fact.
Nice "what if". But your basing this hypothetic non-reaper reality on... baseless hypotheticals. The fact that life does exist shows that no synthetics wiped out all life. So it never occurred. It would be a baseless assumption on the part of the Reapers to suggest that synthetics would systematic scour the galaxy, rock by rock, exterminating all traces of organic compounds. It's laughable and not based in reality. Not to mention the fact that there are a myriad of ways they could go about preventing organic-synthetic wars. But they either won't or can't. If you think the Reaper's "solution" is warranted then you must believe Control will ultimately fail if that "can't" or they are lying if they "won't".
Good luck with Control.
remydat wrote...
Intelligence has nothing to do with conscience or morality for that matter.
Good, so you agree that those races, those people they slaughtered, AREN'T being preserved. You'd think the Reapers would just show up and collect data for a library.. maybe make a few wax statues and then go back to dark space and leave everybody alone if all they want to preserve is memories and achievements.
remydat wrote...
The Reapers are the collective intelligence of the races they harvested. This is made perfectly clear when EDI in synthesis explains that the Reapers shared the knowledge and culture of those races. Just because you don't like them doesn't change what th story says.
See above. I never said they didn't have memories and knowledge taken from those races. In fact I explicitly stated they did in the previous post.
You tend to ignore question you can't answer and I typically let you slide by, but I'm going to hold you to this one:
The Twilight God wrote...
remydat wrote...
I see plenty to trust the Catalsyt. You don't
Please, share with us your reasons for trusting it seeing as you have plenty apparently.
Please, enlighten us about the many reasons we should blindly put our absolute trust in the "Reaper Ambassador"
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