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[Sacred_Fantasy]

Karlone123 wrote...

I understand some people may not be bothered by this, but I really enjoyed her feature in Mark of the Assassin. Would anyone be interested in seeing Tallis again?

I don't buy DA 2's DLCs, but I'm interested in hearing her voice as one of the romanceable companions. <3

[LobselVith8]

Karlone123 wrote...

I understand some people may not be bothered by this, but I really enjoyed her feature in Mark of the Assassin. Would anyone be interested in seeing Tallis again? 

I specifically avoided MoTA because of how the plot, once again, railroaded the player into a specific conclusion, no matter what choice you make or dialogue option you chose. I've seen playthroughs, and I've also seen how none of the companions (or the player) were allowed to actually debate Tallis on her ridiculous views. I also found her view of mages to be animals (from Redemption) to be a main reason why I'd prefer to avoid her.

[Xerxes52]

I wouldn't mind having her as a party member again.

[ManOfSteel]

I don't mind either way. She is the least annoying DA2 elf, however. I'll take her over Fenris (ugh...) and Merrill.

[CrazyRah]

Preferably not. I would be alright if she didn't return at all to DA:I. However if she do return i hope she's a character i don't need to spend that much time with or that she's at least not Tallis

[Paul E Dangerously]

In the words of Daniel Bryan..

"No! No! No! No! No!"

[esper]

I really didn't like her.
I REALLY, really didn't.
And what happended made no sense.

What would have made sense was that if we abandonded Tallis in the cave (which I always do), she steals the scrolls instead of fighting with Hawke and espaces during Hawkes fight with leopold and the duke. In this scenerio we could learn what the scroll contain, somehow. (They would have to rewrite the confrontation, but there should be two different lead ups to the final fight).

If we don't abandon her, she helps us in the final fight, give us the jewel, but never says what the scrolls contain, because, honestly, what's in that scroll is not something any qunari secret should reveal.

[10K]

She's in the same boat as most DA2 characters for me. Wouldn't care if she showed up or not.

[Beerfish]

Enigmatick wrote...

Please God, no. She's worse than Allers.

Child please, not even REMOTELY close.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Beerfish wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

Please God, no. She's worse than Allers.

Child please, not even REMOTELY close.

Agreed. 

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Enigmatick wrote...

Please God, no. She's worse than Allers.

I disagree with Enigmatick if in thier opinion they mean Allars and  Tallis were "bad" 


IMO However I will say that  if i had to rate them Tallis wins of course but liked them both 

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 12 avril 2013 - 08:04 .

[lil yonce]

Yeah, bring her back. I liked her and her story was interesting.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Beerfish wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

Please God, no. She's worse than Allers.

Child please, not even REMOTELY close.

Ding ding ding. One is a minor character, the other one has an entire DLC revolving around them as a vanity project.

[TK514]

Don't see why not. She an enjoyable VA and they could certainly do worse.

[Rawgrim]

No. That would mean that ultimate Mary-Sue Talis returning.

[Eralrik]

Since were going to be in Orlais I would like to see Cassandra and her Mage friend in DAI and my favorite of all the characters Leliana which I assume she will be in DAI as she is the right hand of the Divine.
Tallis was interesting and funny at times in the game though I wished there was more of her in DA2 I actually thought she might stick around after her quest was done, but alas nope. The movie really sucked it would have been good if it wasn't for all those annoying cut scenes.

[JamieCOTC]

ibbikiookami wrote...

I want her to return... so I can kill her.

MisterJB wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
As long as she no longer has the power to indoctrinate the PC into serving the Qun, fine.

Uh...I've got MotA installed but haven't played it yet - are you really forced into that?

Personally, I find it to be a bit of an hit and miss regarding the Qunari.
For one, Hawke is allowed to criticize other aspects of the Qun beyond its denial of religion which I thought was an improvement but; and these might be spoilers; by the end of the DLC, when Hawke and Tallis have recovered a secret that could tremendously hurt qunari operations through all of Thedas, Hawke just lets her walk away. No fighting, no smoke trick, nothing. She just walks away with it.
It goes somewhat like this:

"Hawke: Give me the list!
Tallis: No!
Hawke: Well, I tried."

This. Seriously Bioware? How much linear do you want DA to be?

While I agree she should have been killable and then take the item from her dead body, this is more of a problem w/ the story of MotA than of Tallis's character. It happens all too often w/in the core game itself, including the ending in shich the player's actions make little to no difference in the grand scheme.

[Maverick827]

For the record, I have never played MotA.  From a purely literary standpoint, however...

FINE HERE wrote...

First, it seemed like she was trying too hard to be likeable.

Fair enough for you, but this is pretty subjective.  I could say the same thing for, say, Alistair.  He's always joking around like a class clown vying for attention!  I don't actually believe that, but it's just an example.

Second, she had conflicting idealogy. (Believed in the absolute truth of the Qun but felt bad for killing a guard that was only doing his duty/role/job? If he ran away or let Tallis and the PC go, that would be him rejecting his duty. And yet she doesn't shed a tear for the assassins she killed at the opening 'Look at how awesome I am!' scene.)

First, having a conflicting ideology is not inherently bad.  In fact, I'd say a character without conflicts is pretty bland.  No one is black and white.  You say that she believes in the "absolute truth" of the Qun, but that is obviously not the case if her actions contradict that belief.  Thus, her belief isn't "absolute" even if the character herself says that it is.  That's the whole point of inner conflict.

Second, a guard and an assassin are two very different professions.  It's entirely logical for a person to feel little to no remorse in killing a murderer but feel the opposite for killing a guard.

Third, You HAVE to keep her with you, no matter how much your ideals clash or how little you like her. My mage Hawke didn't want to spend time with a psychopath that would sow her mouth shut.

Can you leave the DLC at any point?  If so, this is sort of your fault.  If not...then it's still sort of your fault.  You should realize the meta implications of why she's required in the DLC that's about her.

Fourth, the only option the game really gives you to abandon her lets her get away with what she was planning anyway, so that was annoying. You can't stop her or prevent her from succeeding aside from not playing the dlc.

The entiery of Dragon Age 2 is about ultimately not being able to change fate.  It's a deconstruction of pretty much every other BioWare narrative where the player character is able to shape the world to, if we're all being honest, an unrealistic degree.

Fifth, she lies to you, and I guess that pissed off a few people.

A lot of beloved characters lie to you.  Even if this was the very first time, not wanting the character back because of this would just be petty.

Sixth, the dlc was all about Tallis. Every little bit. It was the Tallis show, not the Hawke show, not the PC's show.

Again, the rest of the game isn't like this.  Why would the DLC be?  DA2 is a character-driven narrative, but the plot is never really in the hands of Hawke/the player.  The appeal of DA2 is the greater characterization of Hawke.  If the DLC didn't deliver on that - what with this supposed Qun railroading - then that is definitely a concern, but not one that is Tallis's fault.

Modifié par Maverick827, 12 avril 2013 - 09:07 .

[Rawgrim]

Her leaping 50 feet through the air, backwards, from a stand still position, ruined it for me. Why the heck would she need help to get atop a balcony?

[-TC1989-]

Scelous wrote...

To all the haters: What exactly was so annoying about Tallis? I'm just curious.

For one I think her voice is too recognizable. So with that I just couldn't lock into her character all that well. I think too her character had too much influence on Hawke, which was annoying. My Hawke was more of an aggressor, and wasn't the type to be so easily swayed into doing someone else's bidding just to help them out (especially if I didn't know them that well), and I think it forced that a little too much. Another thing too, was that she kept on deceiving Hawke, and not telling him what he/she really needed to know. I hate personally being kept in the dark in the first place, and when I'm helping you find something? Of course this is just my opinion.

[DragonMage95]

I think Felicia Day and I really enjoyed Tallis. Tallis had flaws but I think she is misunderstood. I don't really understand the hate people have for the character, I understand some didn't like her but she wasn't horrible. I think having her return and having her as a companion could be a good opportunity to give Tallis more depth and purpose which could do her justice. Also, does anyone else think the term "Mary Sue" is overused and means nothing?

[Kimihiko]

[Nerdage]

Well I liked her and wouldn't mind seeing her return, she seemed fun. If she's to accompany me again though she needs to learn to melee properly, because never being in the right place to use most of your abilities is really annoying.

That said, I'd hope for a less ostentatious entrance this time; even Flemeth wasn't that showy and she turned into a dragon. Twice.

[dgcatanisiri]

Honestly, I liked her. She presented a different view to the qunari, as someone who was not born into it but accepted it. I was disappointed that the last DA2 DLC was a spotlight for her, but that's not Tallis's fault. And there's an obvious character arc in trying to convince her to break with the qun if she has so many questions when the qun does not allow for questioning.

So I'm not against her appearing. But if she doesn't, I'm not put out by it, either.