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[Ihatebadgames]

Mage vs. Templars,with the Qun ready to go after both when they are weak.All sides need their top agents.Sister Nightingale and Tallis have a history,probably knives and blood drawn.It could be interesting IF done right.
While i did not like the handcuffs on Hawk for the DLC,he did have them on most of the game as an observer anyway.Why not the more NPCs to save the better.

[Fredward]

Yes pls. I can understand Chobot, I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady but VA is not in her future. But Felicia's voice work is fine and from someone who had no idea who she was before MotA I think a MASSIVE chunk of the abuse she gets is just because some people cannot stand the idea of someone from the "real world" being in the game. Which is just anal.

[Robtachi]

The Simpsons started to really go downhill once random celebrities started popping up in episodes when they so badly did not belong and ruined the ambiance of the show.

Let's take the hint, please.

[Chiramu]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Yes pls. I can understand Chobot, I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady but VA is not in her future. But Felicia's voice work is fine and from someone who had no idea who she was before MotA I think a MASSIVE chunk of the abuse she gets is just because some people cannot stand the idea of someone from the "real world" being in the game. Which is just anal.

No, her character is bad and she should feel bad. 

[grumpymooselion]

I found Mark of the Assassin went downhill really fast once you found out she was a part of the Qun, and that you couldn't effect . . . anything . . . and that her role of view of the Qun was completely contrary to all other descriptions and views on it prior - even from the views of other Qunari you'd come across. It was really frustrating to play through beyond that point, it sort of stuck in my side because prior to that very particular point I'd really enjoyed the DLC.

Mind you, the actress did a fine job. If she made appearances as other characters I'd be fine, but that one? The character and the character's surrounding writing are my issue. The actress, again, was just fine - there's no reason why I wouldn't want to hear her doing more voices for DA3 or any other game.

Modifié par Janan Pacha, 13 avril 2013 - 09:20 .

[TheJediSaint]

Yes, I enjoyed her in MOTA and I hope to see her (voicing a character) again in the future.

[kumquats]

Twisted Path wrote...

Should say: I have nothing against Felicia Day. I take it she was in some tv shows that were really funny or something?

But the character of Talis was terrible and even as a voice actress I don't think her "quirky-girl" voice fits well with a medieval fantasy setting. Veronica already felt a little out of place in New Vegas but that setting at least partially runs on weird quirky stuff. Maybe if she voiced a tinkerer gnome or something it could work.

She is famous for her web series The Guild, where her character is an Elf Priest, I believe.
She also has a youtube channel, with a lot of cool stuff going on. One of my favourites series is Wil Wheaton, who plays Table Top games with a lot of other youtubers, celebs and creative people from the gaming Industrie. For anyone interested, he played the Dragon Age Table Top game. So awesome.

I'm more then indifferent about the DLC character Tallis, but Felicia Day, does a lot for the gaming community and for female gamers.
She is NOT a fake like Diana Allers and no one can be a worse VA then Diana Allers. >.<

Personaly I think, Felicia should stick to the things she does best, then have a cameo with Tallis.

[Ferretinabun]

syllogi wrote...

FINE HERE wrote...

Scelous wrote...

To all the haters: What exactly was so annoying about Tallis? I'm just curious.

First, it seemed like she was trying too hard to be likeable.

Second, she had conflicting idealogy. (Believed in the absolute truth of the Qun but felt bad for killing a guard that was only doing his duty/role/job? If he ran away or let Tallis and the PC go, that would be him rejecting his duty. And yet she doesn't shed a tear for the assassins she killed at the opening 'Look at how awesome I am!' scene.)

Third, You HAVE to keep her with you, no matter how much your ideals clash or how little you like her. My mage Hawke didn't want to spend time with a psychopath that would sow her mouth shut.

Fourth, the only option the game really gives you to abandon her lets her get away with what she was planning anyway, so that was annoying. You can't stop her or prevent her from succeeding aside from not playing the dlc.

Fifth, she lies to you, and I guess that pissed off a few people.

Sixth, the dlc was all about Tallis. Every little bit. It was the Tallis show, not the Hawke show, not the PC's show.

Pretty much all of this.  If the story wasn't so obviously a vehicle for the novel idea of having Felicia Day in Dragon Age, I wouldn't dislike Tallis as much as I do.

Plus, we often throw around the term "Mary Sue" inappropriately when talking about characters, but Tallis, who looks suspiciously like the actress who created her, is a special snowflake elf amongst the Qunari who gets to do things and act in ways that go against everything we've learned about the Qun, who is beloved by everyone who meets her, even Hawke, whether the player likes it or not, and is super talented, quirky, and toothache inducingly cute, is a huge Sue.

+1

I'm sure Felicia Day's lovely and I wasn't that bothered by her VA, but the character of Tallis is TERRIBLE. The fact that she's Qunari is fun as a one-shot plot twist, and trying to face the conflictions of being an elf Qunari could potentially make for an interesting character, but besides that, she is the absolute posterchild of a Mary Sue. To make her bearable she would have to be significantly nerfed to make sure the whole DA world does not revolve around her.

Never mind killing her (it'd probably end up being a Noble Sacrifice death anyway) it'd be nice if she just found something she wasn't AWESOME at, and maybe *failed* once in a while.

[AshenShug4r]

A resounding NO from me. Ridiculous fan service that is only appreciated by FD fanboys/girls.

[Firky]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Yes pls. I can understand Chobot, I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady but VA is not in her future. But Felicia's voice work is fine and from someone who had no idea who she was before MotA I think a MASSIVE chunk of the abuse she gets is just because some people cannot stand the idea of someone from the "real world" being in the game. Which is just anal.

But, is that because you didn't know her before MotA, though?

To me, regardless of anything about Tallis at all, having real life, identifiable voices, and especially actors, is seriously immersion breaking. I absolutely love Michael Hogan, who was Saul Tigh in BSG. And he has an amazing voice, IMO. But when I came across him in Skyrim, even though he only marginally looked like himself, I kept expecting the cylons to attack.

I still played MotA in the end, but this is one of very few deal breakers for me, I think. Along with concurrent party member control, probably.

I don't know. It might be just me. I'm just picturing BG2 with, I don't know, Aerie played by Taylor Swift. (I don't have the slightest problem with Taylor Swift, but it's just not my thing. I'd be expecting her to whip out a guitar. I don't know, does she even play the guitar?)

(Edit: PS. Also, to my mind, it's not like seeing films with the same actor playing different roles, because the technology isn't really good enough to provide all the nuances of facial expression etc, yet. So, it feels like a jarring Michael Hogan voice, rather than a performance by Michael Hogan. But like I said, maybe just me.)

Modifié par Firky, 13 avril 2013 - 11:17 .

[Zainx]

God no, i'm already on the fence in regards to DAI. Having Felicia and her pet Mary Sue in my game,is almost definitely going to push me into not buying the thing.

[Cedryn]

NO, please NO. At least not as Tallis and her scanned face and Mary Sue attitude. I didn't mind her in Fallout New Vegas though. They were just trying too hard in MotA: Tallis is so awesome, you have to love her, you have to...

[dsl08002]

maybe

[NovaBlastMarketing]

ev76 wrote...

I enjoyed mota and the character Felicia day played so yes more Felicia day please. Thank you.

+Alot  

MOTA  was  a 5*  DLC Felicia Day and  Tallis is very talented at everything she does and  Tallis a great creation

[Fredward]

Firky wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Yes pls. I can understand Chobot, I'm sure she's a perfectly nice lady but VA is not in her future. But Felicia's voice work is fine and from someone who had no idea who she was before MotA I think a MASSIVE chunk of the abuse she gets is just because some people cannot stand the idea of someone from the "real world" being in the game. Which is just anal.

But, is that because you didn't know her before MotA, though?

To me, regardless of anything about Tallis at all, having real life, identifiable voices, and especially actors, is seriously immersion breaking. I absolutely love Michael Hogan, who was Saul Tigh in BSG. And he has an amazing voice, IMO. But when I came across him in Skyrim, even though he only marginally looked like himself, I kept expecting the cylons to attack.

I still played MotA in the end, but this is one of very few deal breakers for me, I think. Along with concurrent party member control, probably.

I don't know. It might be just me. I'm just picturing BG2 with, I don't know, Aerie played by Taylor Swift. (I don't have the slightest problem with Taylor Swift, but it's just not my thing. I'd be expecting her to whip out a guitar. I don't know, does she even play the guitar?)

(Edit: PS. Also, to my mind, it's not like seeing films with the same actor playing different roles, because the technology isn't really good enough to provide all the nuances of facial expression etc, yet. So, it feels like a jarring Michael Hogan voice, rather than a performance by Michael Hogan. But like I said, maybe just me.)

If it's just like something that bothers you on a personal level and you restrict that to yourself then cool. Different strokes and all that. But people are tearing holes in Felicia for no other reason than that she exists. If you have a problem with the character or lack of decisions then that the writers problem, not hers. I mean really. And I'm using "you" here as in general, not you specfically. And yes I know she created the character but I'm pretty sure she didn't have control of executive decisions in the DLC. I think. Probably.

Out of curiosity, how would you feel if Jennifer Hale voiced someone in DAI? Personally I feel it's unfair to begrudge someone from working on something they love just cuz they're semi-famous. As long as they can actually do the job anyway, which she did just fine.

[Firky]

If someone's semi-famous, they're likely quite good at what they do. I wouldn't begrudge anyone work, especially if it's something they work incredibly hard at.

I'd (personally) prefer that actors in games were obscured as far as is possible, though. (Especially physical appearance.)

I don't know what voice actors do, but I'd guess a good performance, regardless of tech, would involve sounding like the character rather than the actor. (I still think a good performance must be challenging.)

I think it's a question of explicitness.

(PS. Tearing holes in someone is is always bad. I just don't dig the concept. I guess a large volume of games are going down the more voiced, rather than less, route though.)

Modifié par Firky, 13 avril 2013 - 08:54 .

[alhamel94]

Enigmatick wrote...

Please God, no. She's worse than Allers.

just want to point out that at least felicia isnt a journalist, i mean really bw/ea not sure whos idea that one was lets make a character for a games journalist and have her voice her. yeah that is never a questionable thing to do

[alhamel94]

Firky wrote...

If someone's semi-famous, they're likely quite good at what they do. I wouldn't begrudge anyone work, especially if it's something they work incredibly hard at.

I'd (personally) prefer that actors in games were obscured as far as is possible, though. (Especially physical appearance.)

I don't know what voice actors do, but I'd guess a good performance, regardless of tech, would involve sounding like the character rather than the actor. (I still think a good performance must be challenging.)

I think it's a question of explicitness.

(PS. Tearing holes in someone is is always bad. I just think don't dig the concept. I guess a large volume of games are going down the more voiced, rather than less, route though.)

well we know steve blum will be somewhere in the game like he always is

[Welsh Inferno]

Not particularly.

Anyone saying she was worse than Allers though: Dont be stupid.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 13 avril 2013 - 09:00 .

[DragonMage95]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Not particularly.

Anyone saying she was worse than Allers though: Dont be stupid.

 

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I don't mind Felicia Day, but I didn't really like how Tallis was used as a character.

So, I suppose you could say I have no problem with Felicia Day returning, only not as how Mark of the Assassin did it.

[Angrywolves]

I feel reasonably sure she'll be a party member in DAI, regardless of those fans like her.

[Renmiri1]

I liked her on MotA but her other movie was better, Talis came as less bad ass there. I didn't mind she being the protagonist on MotA because I really like Felicia Day but I can see how it annoyed a lot of fans.

[alhamel94]

i so truly believe that the biggest problem is simply using the likenesses. its just a bit jarring to just see felicia in a game, its not that she did bad or anything but she is just physically there and its just o gods thats strange