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[Solmanian]

MichaelStuart wrote...

How long does the average person live in Thedas?

Average lifespan in medieval society is a complicated thing. The average is heavily schewed due to child mortality. But for people that reached adulthood there's nothing them for living to atleast their forties or fifties.

Magic healing seems to be scarce (it's probably the most complicated field of study for mages) and not readily available to the general population. It also been shown to be far inferior to modern medicine. There's no "resurection" spell. When your companion reach 0 HP they aren't considered mortaly wounded or dead, but merely knocked unconcious.

[andy6915]

Probably Qunari (kossith). Sten survived WEEKS in his cage and had absolutely no food or water in that time and Sten didn't even act like that was impressive, and is still in literal fighting shape immediately after being freed. Any race that has that survivability and endurance to malnourishment most likely live a long time and don't get hit as hard by age as other races.

[WardenWade]

BlazingSpeed wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

1) Arlathan Elves (supposedly)
2) Golems
3) Dragons
4) Darkspawn

And from there the races kind of even out. ~_^

But are there any Arlathan Elves left?

It would be interesting if there were somewhere in Thedas...

Agreed!

[DragonAgeLegend]

I'm pretty sure the Quanari live the longest..

[Vortex13]

SinerAthin wrote...

sirus1988 wrote...

I thought the brood mothers just breed excessively and continuously?

If I were to guess it would probably be the Dalish Elves since they were somewhat immortal.

Aye, but even though the Darkspawn are prone to early deaths due to high violence, they CAN live quite long

I might be wrong here, but I was under the impression that Darkspawn were effectively immortal. They could never die of natural causes; I mean you fight ancient Darkspawn, and the goul-ified Warden Commander in the Legacy DLC had been there since Hawke's father had left, and he was still combat ready. 

Anyway, what about Dragons? I believe the High Dragons could be immortal, if you count their sleeping under the ground as being alive.

[Senya]

Good point. Though, I wouldn't want to live as a darkspawn. And not all High Dragons are underground. Just the Old Gods, who might be a different variety. High Dragons are said to be female and live over 1000 years, while the Old Gods, it sounds like, lived even longer if the Archdemon Dumat is the same Old God who whispered to the First Archon. Not to mention the Old Gods are referred to as male.

Sten also mentions in the comics that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".

So, I would say the Old Gods are different than high dragons. Sorry for my rant. I just discovered it and I love new lore.

[alhamel94]

biologically speaking smaller organisms would tend to live longer that being said we just dont know enough about internal systems to make an educated guess for any species. basically we can speculate but it is somewhat meaningless unless bioware either directly tells us or tells us more of the anatomy of the various races

[Senya]

^^

True, but the Old Gods are canonically long-lived and this is a fantasy setting. So, biology, I think, will be hand-waved as necessary.

[Face of Evil]

The presence of magic makes musings over biology moot.

Darkspawn don't need to eat or sleep, and they never die unless they're killed. How the hell is that possible? It's not, except through magic.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 14 avril 2013 - 05:53 .

[Mary Kirby]

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

[TheJediSaint]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Interesting, thanks Mary.   Especially the part mentioning Qunari sanitation and medicine.   I guess that's one of the benefits of a society that does away with all that pesky individualism.

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 14 avril 2013 - 06:11 .

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Ah huh, so Mary Kirby finally reveals the source of the Elves fabled Immortality, they were never immortal, they just extended their lives through blood magic.

Well that is one mystery down, care to reveal what Flemeth really is?

[Hrungr]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

I do recall though one Elf mentioning their race live longer than humans, but at the moment I can't remember who said it...

[gangly369]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Ah huh, so Mary Kirby finally reveals the source of the Elves fabled Immortality, they were never immortal, they just extended their lives through blood magic.

Well that is one mystery down, care to reveal what Flemeth really is?

I'm pretty sure that Mary is talking about present day DA, and is in no way confirming that the elves didn't have immortality in the past

[Henioo]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Does that mean viddathari following the Qun also live longer as they get to use the qunari medicine and whatnot? Or does it only apply to giant Qunari?

[MisterJB]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Well, now. This is interesting.
A topic often brougth up in various debates regarding the animosity between humans and elves is that since a developer supposedly said that the Dalish live longer than city elves, that gives credence to their Quickening theory.
However, now you're saying that is actually not true. Dalish don't live any longer than city elves.

Modifié par MisterJB, 14 avril 2013 - 11:05 .

[TheJediSaint]

MisterJB wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Well, now. This is interesting.
A topic often brougth up in various debates regarding the animosity between humans and elves is that since a developer supposedly said that the Dalish live longer than city elves, that gives credence to their Quickening theory.
However, now you're saying that is actually not true. Dalish don't live any longer than city elves.

Dailish probably don't die from disease as often, but that's countered by the added risk of being eaten by a bear.

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 15 avril 2013 - 12:36 .

[Palidane]

TheJediSaint wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Well, now. This is interesting.
A topic often brougth up in various debates regarding the animosity between humans and elves is that since a developer supposedly said that the Dalish live longer than city elves, that gives credence to their Quickening theory.
However, now you're saying that is actually not true. Dalish don't live any longer than city elves.

Dailish probably don't die from disease as often, but that's counted by the added risk of being eaten by a bear.

Agreed. This definitely sheds a new light on the Quickening.

[Chiramu]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Wow, how did the Qunari get sanitation and medicine? 

[Huge_Beaver]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Hah, guessing Mister JB and General User are very happy with this piece of news .
Anyhow, didn't a devoloper or writer say that the Dalish did live longer than the City elves? If not through the lack contact with humans wouldn't the exercise the Dalish recieve increase their lifespan? The part about not living in ghettos which probably lacks proper hygiene facilities probably helps aswell :s

Modifié par Huge_Beaver, 15 avril 2013 - 12:49 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Called it.

[Knight of Dane]

Chiramu wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Wow, how did the Qunari get sanitation and medicine? 

They've always been depicted as superior, and they don't rely as much on magic as other nations in Thedas so I would hazard a guess that they just researched it.

[Xilizhra]

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

But that's clearly contradicted by several lines of dialogue in DAO, with what was said about Dalish living "long lives," and Master Ilen's father having lived back to a time before Calenhad united Ferelden. So either city elves also live that long, or I request that you reassess this statement.


If this is in fact true... then the Quickening can't be cured by isolation alone. Which, I suppose, isn't all that surprising; just removing oneself from the source of a disease won't stop the disease itself, especially if it's become transmitted through birth. Apparently a more thorough cure is necessary. Perhaps it'll come up in future games; the genophage, after all, was cured.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 15 avril 2013 - 02:08 .

[TheJediSaint]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

All the races have approximately the same life-span. But Qunari have sanitation and medicine, and so on average tend to live the longest. Dalish do not live any longer than city elves. The only Dalish to "reclaim" any immortality was Zathrian, and he was using a blood magic curse.

Wow, how did the Qunari get sanitation and medicine? 

They've always been depicted as superior, and they don't rely as much on magic as other nations in Thedas so I would hazard a guess that they just researched it.

Not so much superior as better organized.   Their culture probably has a high precentage of professional. healers and such.  And you'll be amazing how much proper sanitation will increase average life expectantcy.

[andy6915]

Xilizhra wrote...

But that's clearly contradicted by several lines of dialogue in DAO, with what was said about Dalish living "long lives," and Master Ilen's father having lived back to a time before Calenhad united Ferelden. So either city elves also live that long, or I request that you reassess this statement.

You are amazing(ly idiotic). So when a Bioware person working on the series tells you differently then what you wanted to believe so much in that elf thread, you tell that Bioware person that they are wrong and that you are right. A-freaking-mazing. You're so bigheaded that your head must have its own gravitational field with planets orbiting it. Seriously, you're trying to tell a guy involved with the canon of the series that your own fan canon is more accurate.

Modifié par andy69156915, 15 avril 2013 - 02:30 .