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[MegaSovereign]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

10 playthroughs later and I still haven't forgiven them.

This post is not an insult attempt or any kind.

And here I fail to see any, even smallest bit of logic.
Why play the game while being still angry at comapny and the game ?

I'll let my post speak for itself. Interpret it how you want.

[Mr.House]

Very simple, it's a video game.There is far more crap I have to deal with then still being bitter at a video game company.

[RULost119]

In the beginning, I was furious. However, the idea of the Intelligence never bothered me really. It was more or less that I was told to pick one of three colors without any real information. When they came back with the EC and gave us the option to question him, that made up for the vast majority of my issues. The idea of Shepard dying to save the universe or having to choose to sacrifice allies to do it never bothered me. I told my wife the minute I finished ME2 for the first of many times "I don't see how this can have a happy ending." So I expected something dark anyway.

All in all, Bioware gave me my favorite game of the last generation (KOTOR) and my favorite game series of this one. (ME) When the crap hit the fan about the endings, they could have easily charged for the EC. Sure, it would have alienated even more fans, but so many would have shelled out the cash. Then they put out some very good (IMO) single player DLCs and a lot of multiplayer DLCs. (And those were for free, in an era where 3 new maps and a gun usually costs $15)

While I'm not sure on ME4, mostly because I wonder where it can go, Bioware was forgiven long ago here.

[Kuro.Ookami]

ME3's last hour cannot spoil hundred of hours that I thoroughly enjoyed.

[wright1978]

Not sure forgiveness is the right word but game is done now. Still think ME3 is a flawed product but i'll move on and try and take the enjoyment from that flawed product where i can. Then i'll keep my fingers that future Bioware games will learn from ME3's missteps

[dreamgazer]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

So with that said, I don't really feel the need to forgive them for anything. I understand why they did the things they did. I don't really feel the need to get excited about ME4 though. The things that drew me to ME3 aren't there, and ME3 wasn't good enough to make ME4 an automatic buy. That's not really a knock on Bioware. I'm just really picky about what I buy.

Essentially.

[cerberus1701]

Because it's a ****ing video game?

And as much as I love it, and still play it it's not that important.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I never had any hurt feelings that needed forgiveness.

[Manimal]

BioWare and EA have made some questionable decisions over the past couple years, and with a baby on the way, I think I'll let my money do the talking. Fan boys and girls (and haters too) can type whatever they want on this forum, the only thing that makes any real difference is whether or not you buy, or preorder, or even rent ME4. Hopefully at least some of you will wait for the first price drop to pick it up. That alone might send enough of a message that the fans' trust has been violated in a very real way.

[Melra]

There was nothing to forgive.

[Silcron]

Lathrim wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I never had any hurt feelings that needed forgiveness.

[JasonShepard]

Okay, first off, this is where I'm coming from:

Prior to ME3, I avoided every possible press-release, advert, developer interview - all of it - so that I could avoid the slightest spoiler about the game. I wanted to play it without knowing what was going to happen next. And hey - the advertising was targeted at people who might not pick up the game, or might not even know about it; there was no point advertising it to someone like me who had pre-ordered the CE already...
(I did something similar with DX:HR, having only seen one trailer that convinced me the devs knew what they were doing. It is a LOT of fun to play a game with no fore-knowledge of where it is going.)

So, as a result, I never saw or heard any of the so-called pre-release-lies. I went into ME3 with high expectations, yes, but those expectations were based on what I'd seen ME2 and ME1 do.

And although the original ending disappointed me, it didn't inspire me to a hulk-like rage...

So, let's get going:

mahler5 wrote...

Basically, why forgive an inferior product that almost completely invalidated nearly every choice from the previous games...

- I disagree that choices were invalidated. Squadmates that died in previous games stayed dead. Heck, I had Ashley in my squad and as my LI, and she could have died in ME1! Having seen how Bioware played it in ME2, I was expecting my choices to colour my gameplay experience rather than direct the plot - and the genophage arc followed that prediction, but took it far further than I would have expected!

mahler5 wrote...

...left enough plot holes to sink an aircraft carrier...

- I didn't notice too many plot holes, and those that I did, I was more than willing to fill them in with my own headcanon for the sake of the experience. I did it to explain Project Lazarus in scientific terms, so carried on doing it here.

mahler5 wrote...

...ended on such a sour note as to warrant the one of the largest backlashes in gaming history?

- Okay, yeah, the original ending was pretty bad. It left 'What next?' entirely up to the imagination, with very little in-game direction of what to think. However, the EC epilogue did a good job of fixing that, and as a Controller I was happy to decide the rest of the post ME3 universe for myself. I enjoy the Control ending too, which is a bit of a help, for the themes of self-sacrifice and self-identity that it invokes.

Overall, then I think the answer is: I enjoyed 99% of the original game, and by now I enjoy closer to 99.9% (the Catalyst still bothers me a bit, as does Destroy's mandatory Synthetic death penalty. And I still wish Harbinger had actually spoken at some point...) But I still love the Mass Effect universe, I still enjoy playing ME3, and the Citadel DLC was absolutely brilliant.
And Paragon-Control is a happy enough ending for me.

(PS Before anyone jumps down my throat claiming Control will lead to a Reaper dictatorship - I did mention headcanon above, didn't I? Yeah, I thought I did. I decide what happens post-Control in my universe, and it isn't that.)

Modifié par JasonShepard, 12 avril 2013 - 10:16 .

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Kuro.Ookami wrote...

ME3's last hour cannot spoil hundred of hours that I thoroughly enjoyed.

[Nole]

Seriously, people that is still angry for a videogame needs to get a life.

[Wynterdust]

I do not forgive as they did nothing that needed forgiveness. I actually liked the ending and respect them even more for not changing it. Lynch me.

[argan1985]

I haven't "forgiven" but I honestly don't care that much; games are just entertainment to me. However, after spending money on such a half-assed mediocre shooter marketed as RPG (hailed as OMGGOTFYWTF! by the media, by the way) with so bad writing and simply not living up at all to what they promised...I'm not buying any more Bioware games. There are way more promising developers and games out there anyway now.

Modifié par argan1985, 12 avril 2013 - 10:40 .

[Asharad Hett]

I have somewhat forgiven them because the Citadel DLC was wildly entertaining.

[Jukaga]

Wynterdust wrote...

I do not forgive as they did nothing that needed forgiveness. I actually liked the ending and respect them even more for not changing it. Lynch me.

+1

Maybe it helped that I ignored all previews and reviews and didn't play the game till a year after release, with all DLC and the EC except Citadel installed  from my very first playthrough . I went in with no preconceptions and immensely enjoyed the experience from start to finish.  Now with the Citadel DLC, it's even better.

[Iakus]

Solaxe wrote...

I'll forgive them if they don't screw up DA3 or ME4

This.

Modifié par iakus, 12 avril 2013 - 11:09 .

[BigGuy28]

Until they give us the real Mass Effect 3 I will never forgive them. No matter what though I will never forget, I reluctantly gave them a pass on Dragon Age 2 thinking it's terribleness was a fluke but after Mass Effect 3 it's obvious they don't care anymore. What little info I've seen of Dragon Age 3 already shows that it is going to be yet another terrible game by them.

[tracesaint]

I never found it necessary to forgive them. I thought it could have been better, but it was still great. Besides, I have to work for a living. Other things to worry about.

[MetioricTest]

I've "forgiven" them because ME3 is and always was one of the greatest games I've ever played.

Sure the ending sucked a rusty fire hose and tarnished the trilogy but aside from that it's a damn good game