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Those of you who have forgiven Bioware for Mass Effect 3, why?


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ioannisdenton

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First of all the original ending was a nightmare. it ruined my sleep. 't was awful.
Rachni choice.... what the?
False CONSEQUENCE trailer on thessia, check it out on official bioware youtube channel...
What the?
Priority earth and war assets.. what the??
All it sums up to is FALSE advertising, blubbermouth and TONS iof promises.

apart from that Me3 has really some detail. you can see it clearly.

I am at peace now with the ending.

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I'll never really stop doubting them, not for a while, but it's over. The ship has sailed, and we await the next, and see if anything was learned.

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Forgive.. seriously im a consumer all that matters is product satisfaction. Only thing i can say i will more careful of bioware branded products in the future. There is no other relationship.

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To forgive implies there was a wrong or injustice done that deserves forgiving. There was not. I was, at one point, upset that the ending did not meet my expectations in both story-telling choices and resolution. I also thought that other elements towards the end could be improved. I did not forgive anything, because Bioware never did anything morally or personally wrong to me. Instead, they gave away, for free, a re-cut version of the ending. I like the re-cut version a lot better. It isn't perfect, but the gesture was and is greatly appreciated. I paid for a product and I got the product I paid for, I was not entirely happy with it, however, and Bioware made an effort to address that dissatisfaction. They didn't always act or speak perfectly, bit neither did I or anyone else who was dissatisfied with the story's end. Overall, they made as good as I think I could reasonably expect them to and I look forward to their future work.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Apparently a lot of people like to go on a video game forum to talk about how video games are too trivial to care about.



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Because after they realised many fans didnt like the original endings, they really wanted to fix it. They released the EC free and implemented most of the fan feedback to the Citadel DLC. I think the result was nice, so im in peace with them now. I hope they've learned and dont screw up with ME4 and DA3..

#82
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Forgiven is a strong word. As a consumer, I make decisions based on the quality of the good. Bioware has quality games, but recently they have gotten by on their rep. So, take it from me that NO consumer truly forgives or forgets. Bioware just has an opportunity to have me as a future customer, however that window may close at anytime. Forgiveness is only for friends or family.

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I've never heard of the word forgiven

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People really need to step back and take a look at this objectively.

It's a game. It's a story. It's a piece of writing. This piece of writing has a badly written ending.

So what?

Honestly, I don't get what the huge deal is or why everyone rages. Even extremely good writers write something ****ty - bad writing happens. You need to look at it, say "wow, that's bad", and move on. It's a piece of writing - criticize it, point out what's bad, but to hold a grudge against its writers?

Are they not permitted to make any mistakes or something?

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Forgive.. a company. A company that deals in $$ over morals and whatnot. Ahahahahaha... no. Sounds about as silly as being a loyal *insert company* buyer.

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I did forgive them for both ME3 and DA2 but I still remember that BW is not what it used to be. They could create games that didn't have big ending backslash or they could be more creative than reusing the same maps.

ME3 is not like what any BW fan would expect of them and I don't mean only the ending because some people might like it. What I mean is little stuff like Tali face, journal system, priority:earth that was only about killing enemies, Commodore 64 music in Shepard's cabin, Killing important characters via Twitter...there is a long list to choose from.

If the next ME game or DA3 are good then I may change my ming about BW but right now they not my greatest game making company.

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I think it really boils down to your personal investment.

Those who didn't bury themselves emotionally see it as a company/consumer relationship. In that regard, the entire idea of "forgiving" Bioware is silly.

But those who invested themselves kinda felt like it WAS a friend or family relationship. They honestly feel Bioware MEANT IT when they said stuff like the player was involved in the story, and were literally HURT when the truth was revealed. So, yeah, they demand apologies from Bioware and feel that their "forgiveness" to Bioware somehow matters.

Modifié par chemiclord, 14 avril 2013 - 12:28 .


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ME1 is the only bioware game id recommend.

time has never changed my opinion of any bioware game.

#89
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I would gladly forgive Bioware, if Bioware was still Bioware, but they're not. They're EA now.

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I don't "forgive" them a damn bit, but I'm also not going to put them on blast either. It's clear to me that at this stage they got the point of all the vitriol and aren't going to admit it. Above all, I'll wait and see with Mass 4.

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I haven't been mad at them yet, am I doing it right?

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Dunabar wrote...

I haven't been mad at them yet, am I doing it right?


No, talk about auto-dialogue, and make a bunch of restaurant metaphors!

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I don´t recall being mad. And I agree with destroy and my headcannon, so it´s fine. The game was still great.

I choose to ignore what I don't like, so there goes the synthesis and Edi the Sexbot.

Only disappointed with some story inconsistency and maybe some unnecessary characters, but I handled much more worse endings. If you watch Haneke or Tarr films on daily basis, you are fine without sunshine and rainbows endings.

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chemiclord wrote...

I'm not exactly sure what I need to forgive them FOR.

Near everything that is claimed as a "lie" or an "insult" is sensationalist garbage created by bitter fans looking for a reason to justify their rage; even if they have to make up said reason by ripping quotes of their context, twisting meanings, or outright fabricating material.


This part I agree with, however I love Mass Effect 3 and it is far from an "inferior product" as the orignal post claims.

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I played some other games, thought about some of the books I'd read, and realized that the endings weren't that awful, just a bit of a kerfluffle.

And when the EC came out for free, that did a lot.

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I've... made peace with the endings.. I can see what they tried to do, and it was a good idea; badly implemented, yes, but not so terrible as to remain angry at it. I'm at peace, and while I'm not perfectly satisfied, that's acceptable for now.

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I decided to give BioWare another chance with the Extended Cut. Glad I did.

I needed closure, and I got it.

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I do not regret my decision, but I both rue and lament it.

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chemiclord wrote...

I'm not exactly sure what I need to forgive them FOR.

Near everything that is claimed as a "lie" or an "insult" is sensationalist garbage created by bitter fans looking for a reason to justify their rage; even if they have to make up said reason by ripping quotes of their context, twisting meanings, or outright fabricating material.



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I'm not sure I ever needed to forgive Bioware for ME3. I find it was an experience that was just as good as the previous games. Like the previous games, it had it's faults and missteps that could have been avoided (like the journal system and the lack of visual choice impact), but overall, despite all of these errors, this trilogy is miles better than any game I have ever played (save KOTOR).

To those who will say that ME3 was horrible and killed the franchise, they are entirely entitled to their opinion and I respect that. However, in my opinion, any game that can make me come back to do multiple playthroughs, buy all the DLC, browse the forums day and night for new info, and care about the characters and universe, is a game worth playing, Despite the ending (which I agree could have been better), Bioware tried and succeded (for many) in making the EC for us, the fans. Every company makes mistakes. Few would have the guts to say that the fans needed more closure and make free DLC for them.
So no, I have not forgiven Bioware, because I never had to begin with. Thanks for an awesome trilogy Bioware Posted Image
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