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[TemplePhoenix]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Yet such things happen. Maybe even BECAUSE these guys spent YEARS working on the game. And I don't see the reaction to the game having a Massive Effect on their employment status, though I think it was likely they just thought their captive audience would applaud literally anything they did. And to be fair, many seem to do exactly that. Or shrug it off as business as usual.

There is such a thing as "enabling", and it takes some resolve to break that cycle.

.....aaaaaand point missed. Never mind, should have known better than to try.

[SpamBot2000]

TemplePhoenix wrote...

.....aaaaaand point missed. Never mind, should have known better than to try.

What point? That considering the creators of Mass Effect not entirely incapable of distinguishing derivative crap from "genius" is "just stupid"? I got that you think that, thanks.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 14 avril 2013 - 05:57 .

[Clayless]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

What "shoddy practices" would those be? Certainly not fraudulent marketing, then turning around and insulting the people whose money they took with lies. Because they weren't selling anything, remember?

Lies, deceit, doing terrible things like using a charity for their own devices, so much in fact that the charity had to step in and change the rules so something like that never happens again.

As for your hysterics over "delusions", that's still a step back from your previous diagnosis of "rabies", so I guess you're slowly coming around to your senses.

And your underlined superlatives... have you considered filling a balloon or a zeppelin with that hot air? You could go a long way with one.

You're still talking about this post? I hope you do realise that "rabid" used in that context doesn't mean the person has rabies? Is English your first language?

The rest of your post is just playground rubbish. I'll skip past that and ask you directly, why don't you move on? It's been a year, so why don't you move on and do something more constructive with your time?

[TemplePhoenix]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

What point? That considering the creators of Mass Effect not entirely incapable of distinguishing derivative crap from "genius" is "just stupid"? I got that you think that, thanks.

That's incredible, considering that's not even remotely what I wrote, let alone what I think. But you win; carry on the argument you're having in your head if that's what makes you 'happy.'

[iggy4566]

HAHAHAH why would anyone forgive them for lying to our faces an being very rude to every one and then wounder why they don't get any money from folk any more.

[Skvindt]

 I haven't forgiven them but I don't have any bad feelings towards them.

I'm just going to make sure to buy their games when they are heavily on sale.  If they fail to make a top-quality product, their game doesn't deserve a top-quality price.

[SpamBot2000]

Robosexual wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

What "shoddy practices" would those be? Certainly not fraudulent marketing, then turning around and insulting the people whose money they took with lies. Because they weren't selling anything, remember?

Lies, deceit, doing terrible things like using a charity for their own devices, so much in fact that the charity had to step in and change the rules so something like that never happens again.

As for your hysterics over "delusions", that's still a step back from your previous diagnosis of "rabies", so I guess you're slowly coming around to your senses.

And your underlined superlatives... have you considered filling a balloon or a zeppelin with that hot air? You could go a long way with one.

You're still talking about this post? I hope you do realise that "rabid" used in that context doesn't mean the person has rabies? Is English your first language?

The rest of your post is just playground rubbish. I'll skip past that and ask you directly, why don't you move on? It's been a year, so why don't you move on and do something more constructive with your time?

What lies? What deceit? The charity thing wasn't so well thought out, but it wasn't totally heinous either. You realize that it was the Penny Arcade guy who viciously attacked the Retakers who "stepped in"? The guy who just recently was openly trumpeting his plans to "ruin" the career of a Forbes columnist for lulz? That's a very twisted and bitter individual.

And nice of you to again question my understanding of a word that a dictionary you yourself quoted defines primarily as "having rabies". Is English my first language? What do you think?

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 14 avril 2013 - 06:17 .

[Clayless]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

You're still talking about this post? I hope you do realise that "rabid" used in that context doesn't mean the person has rabies? Is English your first language?

The rest of your post is just playground rubbish. I'll skip past that and ask you directly, why don't you move on? It's been a year, so why don't you move on and do something more constructive with your time?

What lies? What deceit?

There was a thread around here at one point with many out of context quotes. Lies and deceit.

The charity thing wasn't so well thought out, but it wasn't totally heinous either. You realize that it was the Penny Arcade guy who viciously attacked the Retakers who "stepped in"? The guy who just recently was openly trumpeting his plans to "ruin" the career of a Forbes columnist for lulz?

Source for the Mass Effect related one?

And nice of you to again question my understanding of a word that a dictionary you yourself quoted defines primarily as "having rabies". Is English my first language? What do you think?

Wait, serious question here: Do you think that if someone says a word they're using all dictionary definitions of it? Seriously, answer that question honestly.

Also, answer my question that you suspiciously cut out of your quote.

[MrStoob]

They had a lot of good will from me until ME3. The attitude stunk from BW considering their videos espousing the virtues of the gamer/developer 'contract', which they broke. Particularly as the game was released incomplete/broken - no face import, it really did make my heart sink that they couldn't even be bothered to get that working when they KNOW it's important to the ME fanbase. As my very first experience of the 'completed' ME3 game, it sent alarm bells.

Did I enjoy ME3? Yes, but with a hell of a lot of 'buts', we all know the details.
Have I forgiven them? Not really.
Will I buy a BW game again? Probably, I bought the DLC! But that's hope for you.

[Vinchisters]

I'm glad that the percentage of butthurt people on BSN has decreased over the past months.

[SpamBot2000]

@Robosexual

Hah, you're doing it again. I ask you about your wild accusations of the Retakers, you say "There was a thread at one point!" Then you turn right around and ask me for sources. Hilarious.

And that question I so suspiciously ignored... well, there were quite a few threads around at various points.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 14 avril 2013 - 06:28 .

[DirtySHISN0]

alleyd wrote...

 I have nothing to forgive Bioware for, my relationship with the brand was just another consumer transaction

I was literally about to type this myself.

Its not like we are in some sort of commited relationship with them. If their product seduces me enough with its suggested quality, i will buy from them.

Simple as.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 14 avril 2013 - 06:47 .

[Clayless]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

@Robosexual

Hah, you're doing it again. I ask you about your wild accusations of the Retakers, you say "There was a thread at one point!" Then you turn right around and ask me for sources. Hilarious.

And that question I so suspiciously ignored... well, there were quite a few threads around at various points.

It's deleted now, but it was pretty big as was regularly (mis)-quoted by anti-enders as a source for Bioware's lies. You can think I'm making this up if you want, it really doesn't make heads or tails to me, but it was a pretty well known thread.

Anyway I'm gonna assume that due to your lack of sources, ignoring of questions, point blank denial of one of the biggest anti-ender threads and even trying to redefine the English language means you've ran out of arguments, or more accurately, you had no legs to stand on in the first place and my mind-numbingly easy attempt to show this was all it took to make you fall apart.

Get back to me when you're no longer too scared to answer questions, because this was far too easy.

[Leanansidhe]

Forgive them for what?

As far as I'm concerned, they did absolutely nothing wrong.

ME3 was amazing.  The fact that some of you can't see that is just sad.

It's like you go out looking for things to be offended by.

"This person said this totally innocuous thing that I have decided is worthy of outrage!"  /rage

I will never understand that mentality.

Keep making your games, BioWare.  I'll keep buying them.

[Cutlass Jack]

SKRemaks wrote...

Forgive them for what?

As far as I'm concerned, they did absolutely nothing wrong.

ME3 was amazing.  The fact that some of you can't see that is just sad.

It's like you go out looking for things to be offended by.

"This person said this totally innocuous thing that I have decided is worthy of outrage!"  /rage

I will never understand that mentality.

Keep making your games, BioWare.  I'll keep buying them.

Yeah this. Sure I didnt like the ending, but that didnt take one iota away from all the enjoyment I had getting to those last 10 minutes. No more than Giant Reaper Baby (Incredibly stupid as it was) took away from ME2.

[feriwan]

Jukaga wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...

chemiclord wrote...

I'm not exactly sure what I need to forgive them FOR.

+1



They have given me a fantastic entertainment product.

I am very gratefull to Bioware.

Ready to get into Mass Effect 4!!

Shad Croly wrote...

Well said.

Fully agree. I don't understand the hate, I had a great ride for the whole trilogy and was given satisfactory closure in 2 out of the 4 endings. The fact that I keep starting new playthroughs after promising myself to move on to a new game tells you something.

Yup, Bioware isn't forgiven because they did nothing that needs to be forgiven. Loved the trilogy, original endings weren't that great, but EC fixed that. And that was free DLC.
Bioware is still awesome.

Modifié par feriwan, 14 avril 2013 - 07:23 .

[Lachdannen]

Having heard the horrible **** storm of protest, I waited till recently and picked up ME3 when it was on sale, refusing to obtain it at full price. 

I'm getting the impression my hesitation was justified: This did a great job of telling the story in an interactive and engaging way. However, the ending? Even with the the extended cut, which should have been there in the first place (for comparison, I watched the old version vs. the new of the paragon choice, which is what I ended up doing), and I'm still not terribly pleased. 

The game was good. I just wish the ending had finished as strong as the second games ending did (not counting the DLC for ME2. I'm talking the original ending).

Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to play with video editing stuff to mash together my preferred ending if i can

[Iakus]

Lachdannen wrote...

Having heard the horrible **** storm of protest, I waited till recently and picked up ME3 when it was on sale, refusing to obtain it at full price. 

I'm getting the impression my hesitation was justified: This did a great job of telling the story in an interactive and engaging way. However, the ending? Even with the the extended cut, which should have been there in the first place (for comparison, I watched the old version vs. the new of the paragon choice, which is what I ended up doing), and I'm still not terribly pleased. 

The game was good. I just wish the ending had finished as strong as the second games ending did (not counting the DLC for ME2. I'm talking the original ending).

Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to play with video editing stuff to mash together my preferred ending if i can

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