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[SilJeff]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

Hey! How bout this:

If you like one of the 3 colors, pick one.

If you like one of the 3 colors, or the 4th in the EC, pick one.

If you like the MEHEM, install it.

How hard is that? It's amazing how difficult it is for people to let other people play a game and choose the ending to THEIR game, that they want.

Did everyone romance the same people? No. No complaints.

Did every choose the same class? No. No complaints.

Did everyone have the same favorites? No. No complaints.

Did everyone choose the same ending? No but

COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN!

Ask yourself, why complain about something that has no affect on you?

the internet..... and people respecting others' opinions and not fighting over it.....

That would be a cool thing, but it'll never catch on

Modifié par SilJeff, 26 juin 2013 - 10:37 .

[AlexMBrennan]

The problem with MEHEM is that one would also have to remove Vendetta and the Leviathans from the game in order for it to be coherent with the rest of the story.

How about not buying Leviathan DLC in the first place?

[Sable Rhapsody]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
How about not buying Leviathan DLC in the first place?

And skipping through most of the dialogue on Thessia, as it's godawful anyway.

[Steelcan]

MEHEM is simply the envy of console players such as myself.

[Bill Casey]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

The problem with MEHEM is that one would also have to remove Vendetta and the Leviathans from the game in order for it to be coherent with the rest of the story.

Vendetta tells us the citadel is the catalyst and the people who desired control were indoctrinated and actively sought to prevent the crucible from being built...

[GreyLycanTrope]

Reviving a 2 month old thread. What is this sorcery?

[Iakus]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Vendetta tells us the citadel is the catalyst and the people who desired control were indoctrinated and actively sought to prevent the crucible from being built...

The presence of the Catalyst is hinted by Vendetta on Thessia. 

Vendetta: "Though I believe the Reapers are only servants of the pattern.  They are not its master.  
Shepard: "So who is the master?"
Vendetta: "Unknown.  Its presence is inferred rather than observed."  

Thus, MEHEM destroys the build-up.

Not much of a buildup, really.

I either ignore that statement or chalk it up to "sequel bait"  SOmething bigger than the Reapers which may come down the pike someday.

[Nole]

MEHEM is what happens when you think you can do a better job than the writers.

[essarr71]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Thus, MEHEM destroys the build-up.

Id take a slap in the face over a knife in my back.

i personally dont use the mod - but I highly respect the effort and completely understand why people wont play without it. 

[Bill Casey]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Vendetta tells us the citadel is the catalyst and the people who desired control were indoctrinated and actively sought to prevent the crucible from being built...

The presence of the Catalyst is hinted by Vendetta on Thessia. 

Vendetta: "Though I believe the Reapers are only servants of the pattern.  They are not its master.  
Shepard: "So who is the master?"
Vendetta: "Unknown.  Its presence is inferred rather than observed."  

Thus, MEHEM destroys the build-up.

No it does not...
Its presense is inferred, rather than observed...

[Iakus]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...
Of course you would. 

MEHEM would make more sense without that little detail from the VI of a scientist who had done extensive research on the Reapers.

A scientist who couldn't pinpoint this "greater pattern" and merely inferred its existence.

It's about as meaningful as the dark energy references in ME2.  And as easily ignored.

[Nightwriter]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

Hey! How bout this:

If you like one of the 3 colors, pick one.

If you like one of the 3 colors, or the 4th in the EC, pick one.

If you like the MEHEM, install it.

How hard is that? It's amazing how difficult it is for people to let other people play a game and choose the ending to THEIR game, that they want.

Did everyone romance the same people? No. No complaints.

Did every choose the same class? No. No complaints.

Did everyone have the same favorites? No. No complaints.

Did everyone choose the same ending? No but

COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN!

Ask yourself, why complain about something that has no affect on you?

We must not have been looking at the same BSN.

[Iakus]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

iakus wrote...

With MEHEM, Vendetta's dialogue is about as meaningful as the dark energy references in ME2.  

Fixed.

Okay...not seeing the point here...ME2 implied dark energy would be an important plot pont in ME3.   

Except that his theory of a greater master behind the Reaper cycles is confirmed to be true on 2 seperate occassions.  Plus, he has studied the Reapers extensively and gained enough information to acknowledge the possible existence of a greater power pulling the strings.  Bioware put that bit of dialogue there in order to foreshadow everyone's favorite AI.

Once is when Shepard talks to the Leviathan who mentions the Intelligence.  However, it is never stated that the Intelligence is the Catalyst, nor that the AI is housed on teh Citadel.   Or even that the Intelligence still existed as a separate entity  

THe second is...when?  Vendetta's "bigger pattern" talk?  That was even more vague.  

Therefore, going back to my original point, one would need to remove Vendetta from the game (and not download Leviathan) in order for MEHEM to be coherent with the rest of ME3's plot.

Meh, not really.  One could easilly imagine the Intelligence now exists among the Reapers., controling them and driving them to tfufill their purpose.

 Regardless, even if it's a loose end, I'd take that in a heartbeat over the absolute garbage that is the endings we got.

[Bill Casey]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Except that his theory of a greater master behind the Reaper cycles is confirmed to be true on 2 seperate occassions.  Plus, he has studied the Reapers extensively and gained enough information to acknowledge the possible existence of a greater power pulling the strings.  Bioware put that bit of dialogue there in order to foreshadow everyone's favorite AI.

Therefore, going back to my original point, one would need to remove Vendetta from the game (and not download Leviathan) in order for MEHEM to be coherent with the rest of ME3's plot.

By that logic, we should remove anyone who mentioned Sauron in the Lord of the Rings novels...

[Coyotebay]

It's easy to make it work through addition rather than subtraction.  Instead of avoiding DLC, the mod could be updated to include a reference to whatever was controlling the catalyst stepping aside to let Shepard do what needed to be done.  Maybe the oversear saw the building of the crucible itself as a sign that it had been wrong all along and decided to not interfere with the Reapers' destruction.  Now the ending works more or less.

[Hey]

there is a lot of flossing going on in this string. if you aren't going to add anything new at least post some provocative gifs.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Vendetta tells us the citadel is the catalyst and the people who desired control were indoctrinated and actively sought to prevent the crucible from being built...

The presence of the Catalyst is hinted by Vendetta on Thessia. 

Vendetta: "Though I believe the Reapers are only servants of the pattern.  They are not its master.  
Shepard: "So who is the master?"
Vendetta: "Unknown.  Its presence is inferred rather than observed."  

Thus, MEHEM destroys the build-up.

Build-up? to what?  Missing out on having the entire MEU destroyed in the last five minutes? Picking what color I want the galaxy to blow up in? And laying in a pile of rubble for the rest of eternity? or having my name put on the board, but it's not even MY character's name. It's Commander Shepard. It's only my character's name if I give my character the first name of "Commander". This is what I miss.

Maybe the Protheans had it wrong. Apparently Vigil got it wrong since Walters retconned about half of it.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 27 juin 2013 - 07:33 .