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[MrFob]

WittingEight65 wrote...

MEHEM is what happens when you think you can do a better job than the writers.

Nah, that was MEEM.

Modifié par MrFob, 27 juin 2013 - 08:06 .

[Flumburken]

I won't play a mod that supports breaking what the writers intended to put in their work, no matter if it ruins the player/observer's own preferences. Personally I'm okay with the endings because they still conclude yet don't conclude at the same time. It opens new windows of posssibilities for the universe to be expanded on, such as the next Mass Effect game.

Putting a mod for the very ending is like if someone edited an old 18th century female portrait with larger boobs; It shows the same things but what the viewers want to see, not what it' SUPPOSE to be.

Really, I'm tired of "Ending is ruined" debates which has lasted over a year now. Just wait until the next title releases. THEN you'll truly see if the endings of the trilogy were worth it or not.

Modifié par Flumburken, 27 juin 2013 - 07:59 .

[Yestare7]

 

Mmmm... let's see,

http://social.biowar...19/polls/44634/


out of the 660 people who voted, MEHEM ranked second, and don't forget, console players don't have the option.

Clearly beating Control and Synthesis.

Didn't hear me in the back? I said: Clearly beating Control and Synthesis.

[Cobalt2113]

Yestare7 wrote...

 

Mmmm... let's see,

http://social.biowar...19/polls/44634/


out of the 660 people who voted, MEHEM ranked second, and don't forget, console players don't have the option.

Clearly beating Control and Synthesis.

Didn't hear me in the back? I said: Clearly beating Control and Synthesis.

You're really trying to sell that as a representative sample?

LOL

Tell me, anyone, what would 660 people be when expressed as a percentage of the people who played mass effect? Maths isn't really my strong suit. How many decimal places would you need?

[N7Katana]

Who cares about the ending when the coolest characters died? D:

[Yestare7]

Cobalt2113 wrote...

You're really trying to sell that as a representative sample?

Sigh...   I explicitly stated: Out of the 660 people who voted.

Read first.

[Hey]

 

[jstme]

Flumburken wrote...

I won't play a mod that supports breaking what the writers intended to put in their work, no matter if it ruins the player/observer's own preferences. Personally I'm okay with the endings because they still conclude yet don't conclude at the same time. It opens new windows of posssibilities for the universe to be expanded on, such as the next Mass Effect game.

Putting a mod for the very ending is like if someone edited an old 18th century female portrait with larger boobs; It shows the same things but what the viewers want to see, not what it' SUPPOSE to be.

Really, I'm tired of "Ending is ruined" debates which has lasted over a year now. Just wait until the next title releases. THEN you'll truly see if the endings of the trilogy were worth it or not.

Let me get this right - you suggest to wait to next ME game that is not a thematic sequel to the trilogy according to the developers to see if (horrible) ME3 endings to the trilogy were really as horrible as they appear to be?
This is too artistic for me. 

[NOD-INFORMER37]

MEHEM stands for "Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod", and it is a mod for the PC version of Mass Effect 3 that, using brilliantly altered cutscenes and mod skills, lets the player experience a different ending than Bioware's one. Although some things from the original ending are emmited from MEHEM (primarily the starchild scene) it is still a fully satsfying and positive conclusion to the series which many people were hoping to see in the "vanilla"(original) game. 

MEHEM was created by MR.FOB, and he and his team continues to add/polish to this modification all the time
 


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MEHEM is also a topic which allows for people who conscripted/divided themselves into "teams" (i.e "pro-enders" and "ending-haters") as an excuse to attack one another even further, as I'm sure you're aware since just on the first page (and counting) some deliberately came here for that sole reason. 

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 27 juin 2013 - 09:30 .

[Ridwan]

Oh my, I posted in this thread a year ago! I was so young back then, full of dreams and hopes and I had that youthful spark in my eyes.

MEHEM is still better than the crappy ending. And the whole art crap excuse (that the game shouldn't be modded) is just another reason why I think that calling games art is detrimental. They're toys meant for entertainment, nothing more.

[Flumburken]

jstme wrote...

Flumburken wrote...

I won't play a mod that supports breaking what the writers intended to put in their work, no matter if it ruins the player/observer's own preferences. Personally I'm okay with the endings because they still conclude yet don't conclude at the same time. It opens new windows of posssibilities for the universe to be expanded on, such as the next Mass Effect game.

Putting a mod for the very ending is like if someone edited an old 18th century female portrait with larger boobs; It shows the same things but what the viewers want to see, not what it' SUPPOSE to be.

Really, I'm tired of "Ending is ruined" debates which has lasted over a year now. Just wait until the next title releases. THEN you'll truly see if the endings of the trilogy were worth it or not.

Let me get this right - you suggest to wait to next ME game that is not a thematic sequel to the trilogy according to the developers to see if (horrible) ME3 endings to the trilogy were really as horrible as they appear to be?
This is too artistic for me. 

 

People keep using the word horrible like when spitting. I honestly can't see what's specifically horrible with the endings. I still like them for what they are, I'm not picky about it. True, I went "what the fffff" pre-cut DLC but afterwards I was okay with it personally. But back to the matter at hand:

If people REALLY want to stretch that far having to use a mod for their satisfaction, fine then. Just don't ruin a portrait I happen to like.

[AlexMBrennan]

Flumburken wrote...

I won't play a mod that supports breaking what the writers intended to put in their work, no matter if it ruins the player/observer's own preferences. Personally I'm okay with the endings because they still conclude yet don't conclude at the same time. It opens new windows of posssibilities for the universe to be expanded on, such as the next Mass Effect game.

Putting a mod for the very ending is like if someone edited an old 18th century female portrait with larger boobs; It shows the same things but what the viewers want to see, not what it' SUPPOSE to be.

Really, I'm tired of "Ending is ruined" debates which has lasted over a year now. Just wait until the next title releases. THEN you'll truly see if the endings of the trilogy were worth it or not.

I'd be a lot more inclined to take your opinion seriously if you
A) didn't insult everyone who disagrees with you (to your credit, "putting bigger boobs" on a painting is slightly better than calling us ****)
didn't seem to confuse artistic merit with stuff you personally like

You're really trying to sell that as a representative sample?

LOL

Tell me, anyone, what would 660 people be when expressed as a percentage of the people who played mass effect? Maths isn't really my strong suit. How many decimal places would you need?

I'd be a lot more inclined to take your opinion seriously if you didn't confuse sample size with representative-ness.

[gesco420]

A happy end isn't necessarily what I wanted or needed. I personally think the EC fixes most issues along with the rest of the dlc. All together I really enjoy the game and still play it. Did I have issues with the original ending? Yes. Is it what I wanted or expected? No. I agree with most that the star child is a big problem. I also think the Crucible is kind of lame. It's a MacGuffin. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. I feel this one doesn't. All the time spent gathering allies should've resulted in a conventional battle where if the galactic readiness was high the Reapers would be defeated. Can't do much about it now and like I said I still play the Mass Effect series including ME3 because I have fun doing so. Also looking forward to the next ME game.

[Bourne Endeavor]

WittingEight65 wrote...

MEHEM is what happens when you think you can do a better job than the writers.

Considering what they offered. That isn't difficult. 

[Kel Riever]

WittingEight65 wrote...

MEHEM is what happens when you know  you did a better job than the writers.

ALL FIXED FOR YOU!

[Ecrulis]

Flumburken wrote...

jstme wrote...

Flumburken wrote...

I won't play a mod that supports breaking what the writers intended to put in their work, no matter if it ruins the player/observer's own preferences. Personally I'm okay with the endings because they still conclude yet don't conclude at the same time. It opens new windows of posssibilities for the universe to be expanded on, such as the next Mass Effect game.

Putting a mod for the very ending is like if someone edited an old 18th century female portrait with larger boobs; It shows the same things but what the viewers want to see, not what it' SUPPOSE to be.

Really, I'm tired of "Ending is ruined" debates which has lasted over a year now. Just wait until the next title releases. THEN you'll truly see if the endings of the trilogy were worth it or not.

Let me get this right - you suggest to wait to next ME game that is not a thematic sequel to the trilogy according to the developers to see if (horrible) ME3 endings to the trilogy were really as horrible as they appear to be?
This is too artistic for me. 

 

People keep using the word horrible like when spitting. I honestly can't see what's specifically horrible with the endings. I still like them for what they are, I'm not picky about it. True, I went "what the fffff" pre-cut DLC but afterwards I was okay with it personally. But back to the matter at hand:

If people REALLY want to stretch that far having to use a mod for their satisfaction, fine then. Just don't ruin a portrait I happen to like.

See, I'd buy the whole "art" and "portrait" BS if Bioware hadn't blatently ripped off their endings from Deus Ex, seriously that level of plagarism would get you a 0 on a paper in college and I refuse to praise bioware for that astonishing lack of creativity. 

Modifié par Ecrulis, 27 juin 2013 - 03:02 .

[Bill Casey]

Flumburken wrote...

People keep using the word horrible like when spitting. I honestly can't see what's specifically horrible with the endings. I still like them for what they are, I'm not picky about it. True, I went "what the fffff" pre-cut DLC but afterwards I was okay with it personally. But back to the matter at hand:

If people REALLY want to stretch that far having to use a mod for their satisfaction, fine then. Just don't ruin a portrait I happen to like.

They are fundamentally racist (synthetic people will destroy you all, rawr) and attempt to justify the worst of human atrocity...

[MegaSovereign]

Whats this MEHEM ending...

A feel good version of a bad ending.

[SomniariKess1124]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Whats this MEHEM ending...

A feel good version of a bad ending.

What he said.

[Daiyus]

I'm really struggling to understand the community here. Mass Effect 3 had a huge backlash. The endings were berated, beaten, and downright rejected by a huge population. Then Mr Fob turns up with an optional mod for a niche market, and now he's getting scorned for that too? That's just ridiculous.

My opinion, the ending was meh, but the journey was amazing. If you like the Original ending, great! If you liked the Extended Cut, good for you! If you were still underwhelmed and want to try a new persons idea for it, give MEHEM a chance. If you don't like that either, then you can stop playing, have a go yourself, headcanon, or suck it up and pick the ending that least offends you.

Really no need for all the negativity and abuse!

[SomniariKess1124]

Daiyus wrote...

I'm really struggling to understand the community here. Mass Effect 3 had a huge backlash. The endings were berated, beaten, and downright rejected by a huge population. Then Mr Fob turns up with an optional mod for a niche market, and now he's getting scorned for that too? That's just ridiculous.

My opinion, the ending was meh, but the journey was amazing. If you like the Original ending, great! If you liked the Extended Cut, good for you! If you were still underwhelmed and want to try a new persons idea for it, give MEHEM a chance. If you don't like that either, then you can stop playing, have a go yourself, headcanon, or suck it up and pick the ending that least offends you.

Really no need for all the negativity and abuse!

It's because we hate that 5 out of the... what, 7 ways to end the game, it ends with shepard's death. and the two endings where shepard lives, you have to struggle to find assets, and play multiplayer.

Edit: plus it gets annoying when you think you've got all the assets you need, go into the War Room, look at the assets terminal, and find that you're still falling short.

Modifié par SomniariKess1124, 27 juin 2013 - 07:29 .

[Endurium]

MEHEM for me is the right way to end a game with a mostly Paragon Shepard. However, before I re-install it I want to run a full Renegade murderer through the series.

Also thanks to being on PC I modded the assets to effectively remove multiplayer from the equation. Hopefully Bioware doesn't do that again. I'm rather disappointed in them for thinking that was a good idea.

[GimmeDaGun]

Meh-em....


...nooo, just kidding, though I don't like it for many reasons and still prefer the original one. But it's a good thing that there's a mod like this for those who don't enjoy or rather hate the ending of the game. At least it gives them a chance to enjoy the game (if they don't hate the whole thing).

Not that it matters the slightest but I find MEHEM pretty boring and predictable. Not my cup of tea, just like the Citadel dlc.

[Iakus]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Whats this MEHEM ending...

A feel good version of to a bad ending.

Fixed that for ya 

[MegaSovereign]

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Whats this MEHEM ending...

A feel good version of to a bad ending.

Fixed that for ya 

No, you didn't.

The fact that you feel the need to edit what you don't like is pretty symbolic of the MEHEM and ending situation.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 27 juin 2013 - 07:46 .