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[iOnlySignIn]

heroicmass wrote...

Seriously, an SP screenshot.

SP and MP use the same game engine with the same enemy AI behavior. The screenshot is used to demonstrate an idea. If you can comprehend it, why are you complaining. 

As for your comment about using the usual weapons, the venom does many things those weapons can't do.

Thrilling.

As for showing the enemies you hate what for, nothing does it better than the venom rocketing them into orbit.

Yeah, except I have to walk up to them first, but I just don't have the time, sorry.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 13 juin 2013 - 02:52 .

[HeroicMass]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

Seriously, an SP screenshot.

SP and MP use the same game engine with the same enemy AI behavior. The screenshot is used to demonstrate an idea. If you can comprehend it, why are you complaining. 

As for your comment about using the usual weapons, the venom does many things those weapons can't do.

Thrilling.

As for showing the enemies you hate what for, nothing does it better than the venom rocketing them into orbit.

Yeah, except I have to walk up to them first, but I just don't have the time, sorry.

If you can't kill things with the venom from afar, then use another weapon.  It isn't for everyone.  However, those that are capable with it can dominate.  Also, don't be afraid to use it on caster classes to deal with highly elevated enemies.  That screenshot you posted was the most extreme example of how to deal with an enemy with that gun.  No gun is perfect in all situations and any assumptions by you about that are completely ridiculous.

If you really want to know how to deal with that nemesis in that screenshot, use Incinerate from EDI and then concussive shot from Garrus.  Fire Explosion, problem solved.

[satchel]

Complaining that the venom is bad because you can't shotgun snipe with it is like saying the javelin sucks because it doesn't do AOE or shoot farts.

[SlimJim0725]

Max Dmian wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Hey Max, any ETA on when the Batarian Soldier run will be up?

I actually forgot to save the recording...
Gotta do it again I guess, HeroicMass said he'd be up for it on Saturday.
I'll be on again tomorrow btw.

Disappointed. That was a flawless run for me and nearly flawless for the team. Maybe Caine has it.

[iOnlySignIn]

skinsatchel wrote...

Complaining that the venom is bad because you can't shotgun snipe with it is like saying the javelin sucks because it doesn't do AOE or shoot farts.

You're a real funny one if you enjoy AOE farting the same way I (and many other players) enjoy shotgun sniping. But I'm not judging - fart all you want. I'll keep enjoying shotgun sniping while you keep enjoying AOE farting. Just please don't do it in the same room I'm in.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 13 juin 2013 - 04:58 .

[iOnlySignIn]

heroicmass wrote...

That screenshot you posted was the most extreme example of how to deal with an enemy with that gun.  

Hardly. I just Googled "Cerberus Nemesis" and this is one of the first few results which are actual gameplay screenshots. If some such as this is the "most extreme example", then I envy you for being able to find excitement everywhere. Life must be a wonderous adventure for you.

heroicmass wrote...

those that are capable with it can dominate

If you really want to know how to deal with that nemesis in that screenshot, use Incinerate from EDI and then concussive shot from Garrus.  Fire Explosion, problem solved.

Bravo. This indeed shows how the Venom can dominate in capable hands.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 13 juin 2013 - 05:05 .

[satchel]

Oh my.

[NuclearTech76]

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Modifié par NuclearTech76, 13 juin 2013 - 05:27 .

[Max Dmian]

 Keep it civil guys, no hostility in my thread please.

@iOnlySignIn

To answer your question: In that special case all the weapons you mentioned will have an advantage of course, you're absolutely right, every gun has a weakness - and the Venom is definitely not a long range weapon.

And I actually meant what I'd said, you can only try to bounce the shots off the wall which will work in this case.
The Venom is a close to mid range weapon. And as Heroic has said, enemies in cover can be dealt with by bouncing the shots off walls/ceiling or aiming at a spot right next to them if you can predict the trajectory of the cluster bombs. Of course, you can't always judge the inclination - but I usually just go with more shots then 
If it is low cover, shooting on it will also help.

There is new gameplay coming soon with some of the guys in this thread, I'll try to show how I deal with enemies in cover then.

[HeroicMass]

NuclearTech76 wrote...


Wow. You're quite the salty, troll aren't you?

this isn't the first time I have seen him/her act this way.  It brings me great joy to see people get all upset 

For Max, I will leave it alone going forward.

[MermaidsTear]

Nice vid, but for non-grenade class we still need to bring a secondary right? Or it takes forever to kill an atlas.

[waltervolpatto]

I had a time for one go and i was doing the vorcha Engineer just for fun. Reaper gold white. Used disruptor ammo, I wish I had incendiary...

My teammates... Not so good. Clutched wave 3 device, 5 midway 789 and 10 . Died doing the last killing I was out of amost everything... I can say I used in soldier as well, but is fun with some power combination.....

[Max Dmian]

MermaidsTear wrote...

Nice vid, but for non-grenade class we still need to bring a secondary right? Or it takes forever to kill an atlas.

On Gold I don't, on Plat I sometimes bring a Hurricane.

[Alijah Green]

Warp rounds OH MY

[Max Dmian]

Alijah Green wrote...

Warp rounds OH MY

I use them on my Fury.

[MzAdventure]

Max Dmian wrote...

Alijah Green wrote...

Warp rounds OH MY

I use them on my Fury.

Caught the live show of Max's Venom Fury last night...

it was AWESOME! 

Will be trying today, and if I can replicate with even a quarter of the effectiveness, I will still be very, very happy.

[iOnlySignIn]

Finally tried it on my QME (for Shotgun Mastery No. 6, so tired of the Wraith now).

It is indeed excellent! Perhaps the best shotgun for the QME. Only the Raider comes close IMO. Venom trades some damage for survivability - it's stagger allows you to be very aggressive - something very important for a Grenade nuke class.

Although I find it completely unnecessary to aim at the ground now I've got used to the projectile trajectory. On a good host I can hit anything across the map with no problem - this gun is actually no more difficult to aim than the Graal.

Will try it on the Fury next.

TL;DR I was wrong. This gun requires a lot of getting used to but after that it's one of the best caster weapons in the game IMO. It just needs to be used more like a grenade launcher instead of a shotgun.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 30 juin 2013 - 05:11 .

[Max Dmian]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Finally tried it on my QME (for Shotgun Mastery No. 6, so tired of the Wraith now).

It is indeed excellent! Perhaps the best shotgun for the QME. Only the Raider comes close IMO. Venom trades some damage for survivability - it's stagger allows you to be very aggressive - something very important for a Grenade nuke class.

Although I find it completely unnecessary to aim at the ground now I've got used to the projectile trajectory. On a good host I can hit anything across the map with no problem - this gun is actually no more difficult to aim than the Graal.

Will try it on the Fury next.

TL;DR I was wrong. This gun requires a lot of getting used to but after that it's one of the best caster weapons in the game IMO. It just needs to be used more like a grenade launcher instead of a shotgun.

Sorry, just seeing this now!

Glad you found a way to finally make it work for you 
It just took some getting used to, hope this thread helped.

[Supreme Leech]

Just saw your video with invader, I must say, that was some pretty epic venom gameplay

[Deerber]

Bumping this because I finally maxed my Venom and I started using it on my Fury in some games. So far, it's pretty good but I think I still need to get used to it.

I've found lots of nice info in this thread, and if I ever dish the SE out of the closet, it's gonna be with a Venom in hand.

Thanks for sharing Max!

[Ledgend1221]

Deerber wrote...

Bumping this because I finally maxed my Venom and I started using it on my Fury in some games. So far, it's pretty good but I think I still need to get used to it.

I've found lots of nice info in this thread, and if I ever dish the SE out of the closet, it's gonna be with a Venom in hand.

Thanks for sharing Max!

Why you lag out?

[Deerber]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Bumping this because I finally maxed my Venom and I started using it on my Fury in some games. So far, it's pretty good but I think I still need to get used to it.

I've found lots of nice info in this thread, and if I ever dish the SE out of the closet, it's gonna be with a Venom in hand.

Thanks for sharing Max!

Why you lag out?

I crashed 


And no matter how many times I try to restart Origin, the friend list won't load.


GoddamLolOrigin... 

Was fun while it lasted, and nice to play with you. Will send a FR if you don't mind 

... And if Origin doesn't mind.

[Max Dmian]

Deerber wrote...

Bumping this because I finally maxed my Venom and I started using it on my Fury in some games. So far, it's pretty good but I think I still need to get used to it.

I've found lots of nice info in this thread, and if I ever dish the SE out of the closet, it's gonna be with a Venom in hand.

Thanks for sharing Max!

Holy batman, seeing this for the first time.
Have you gotten used to it by now? 

[Deerber]

Max Dmian wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Bumping this because I finally maxed my Venom and I started using it on my Fury in some games. So far, it's pretty good but I think I still need to get used to it.

I've found lots of nice info in this thread, and if I ever dish the SE out of the closet, it's gonna be with a Venom in hand.

Thanks for sharing Max!

Holy batman, seeing this for the first time.
Have you gotten used to it by now? 

He, got used to it a bit, but still not completely, I guess. I'm not playing nearly as much as I used to, and the Fury requires me to host, which I rarely do. Played maybe 4 or 5 games with her.

So I still have to get used to double tap it, and to the way the projectiles behave, so that I always hit the enemy. Right now sometimes I don't, and it usually gets me killed because of the way I play the Fury 

But this gun's got potential on her, I can feel it. And when I finally feel like I mastered it, I'm gonna use it on some other kits too. It's so much fun 

Modifié par Deerber, 09 octobre 2013 - 11:38 .

[megabeast37215]

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