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[Lenimph]

GenericEnemy wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

*snip*

i'd rather you didn't open that can of worms here...this has nothing to do with that... :/

preach... 

Anyway the truth of the matter is we don't know and we probaly won't know until the game comes out. 

 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Lelianna was not very happy when my Elf Warden mage poured the blood at the ashes of Andraste mage....and he just simply kill this fanatical Chantry ex-bard/assasin orlesian wh*re:devil:

I would like to do the same with Isabella, but I wanted to kill Arishok and Isabella in any case would still be alive<_<...like that damn lelianna, in DA 3 my cameo warden or inquisitor would totally break them into small pieces with Blood magic:wizard: ...and i try to do this fun magic stuff with Iabella and Cullen

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 14 avril 2013 - 07:14 .

[GenericEnemy]

um...cool?

[Angrywolves]

I never desicrated the ashes and I never killed Leliana or any of my other party members. That would be uncool for me to harm them.

[GenericEnemy]

Angrywolves wrote...

I never desicrated the ashes and I never killed Leliana or any of my other party members. That would be uncool for me to harm them.

me neither, i have quite a few companions i dislike but ive never had any particular desire to kill any of them...

[Asdrubael Vect]

Angrywolves wrote...

I never desicrated the ashes and I never killed Leliana or any of my other party members. That would be uncool for me to harm them.

1)that was totally worth it, really worth it

2)she was lied to me and after she's trying to stand against me...just for ashes of one person who she is not even know and who dying a milenia ago

3)she was a very bad and ammoral person with her dirty, lust and bloody past what she's choose(she was not be raised by prostitutes and after by Crowns like Zevran) and like to lived like this

so I would never regret about this...like as given Fenris to Danarius.  or in future, killing Isabella with Cassandra and Cullen

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 14 avril 2013 - 09:04 .

[Angrywolves]

you're a dark person kosar. I was watching the AVENGERS and Loki taunting Black Widow about her past. Don't you believe redemption ? Leliana redeemed herself.

[GenericEnemy]

can we...you know, not turn this into a Leliana bashing thread? probably too much to ask, but i'll ask all the same...

[Asdrubael Vect]

Angrywolves wrote...

you're a dark person kosar. I was watching the AVENGERS and Loki taunting Black Widow about her past. Don't you believe redemption ? Leliana redeemed herself.

Black widow is soldier/spy who work for her country and she(like her husband, who dead and she is replace him) was not have a choice...and she is not killing any people(Black widow kills only criminals) for money, clothes and sex with her lovers


Lelianna not deserve redemtion as Isabella for her past and Kirkwall massacre

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 14 avril 2013 - 09:16 .

[Chiramu]

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

[robertthebard]

Dark Korsar wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

you're a dark person kosar. I was watching the AVENGERS and Loki taunting Black Widow about her past. Don't you believe redemption ? Leliana redeemed herself.

Black widow is soldier/spy who work for her country and she(like her husband, who dead and she is replace him) was not have a choice...and she is not killing any people(Black widow kills only criminals) for money and sex with her lovers


Lelianna not deserve redemtion as Isabella for her past and Kirkwall massacre

I guess your Warden was kind of weak in game then, because I desecrated the ashes, and told her to shut up, and then went back to camp and got laid, by Leliana.  That's what strong people do.

[GenericEnemy]

Chiramu wrote...

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

Who says the Warden didn't tell her?

[robertthebard]

GenericEnemy wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

Who says the Warden didn't tell her?

I played Awakening, and she leaves the Warden.  You get a note from her explaining that she's left.

[GenericEnemy]

robertthebard wrote...

GenericEnemy wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

Who says the Warden didn't tell her?

I played Awakening, and she leaves the Warden.  You get a note from her explaining that she's left.

Dearest,

I hope you are well. Alas, I am unable to come to the keep as I promised. I am so sorry, but the Grand 
Cleric herself wishes to speak with me. I will tell you all about it 
once I have had my audience. Is it true the darkspawn have not 
retreated? No matter, I'm sure you have it under control. Wish I could 
be there, killing darkspawn beside you. Perhaps you could save some for 
me?

(All right, that was a joke. Do not spare them. That would be 
silly.)

You are always in my thoughts. 

Love, Leliana

P.S. Maybe 
you could consider growing some roses around your keep? That would make 
it so much prettier, don't you think?

nothing in there really screams "I'm leaving you forever!"...

Modifié par GenericEnemy, 14 avril 2013 - 09:34 .

[Knight of Dane]

robertthebard wrote...

GenericEnemy wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

Who says the Warden didn't tell her?

I played Awakening, and she leaves the Warden.  You get a note from her explaining that she's left.

Then you didn't really read it, it says:

Dearest,
I hope you are well. Alas, I am unable to come to the keep as I promised. I am so sorry, but the Grand Cleric herself wishes to speak with me. I will tell you all about it once I have had my audience.
Is it true the darkspawn have not retreated? No matter, I'm sure you have it under control. Wish I could be there, killing darkspawn beside you. Perhaps you could save some for me?
(All right, that was a joke. Do not spare them. That would be silly.)
You are always in my thoughts.
Love, Leliana
P.S. Maybe you could consider growing some roses around your keep? That would make it so much prettier, don't you think?

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 14 avril 2013 - 09:37 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

[/quote]robertthebard wrote...

[quote]
I guess your Warden was kind of weak in game then, because I desecrated the ashes, and told her to shut up, and then went back to camp and got laid, by Leliana.  That's what strong people do.[/quote]
so you quess that my Warden was weakling just because he was not spare her miserable and deceitful life,  and not even trying?

so why your Warden did not kill her?

why you thought her worthy of your Warden mercy for that?

and why it makes him strong for that decision?

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 14 avril 2013 - 09:44 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Dark Korsar wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

I guess your Warden was kind of weak in game then, because I desecrated the ashes, and told her to shut up, and then went back to camp and got laid, by Leliana.  That's what strong people do.

so you quess that my Warden was weakling just because he was not spare her miserable and deceitful life,  and not even trying?

so why your Warden did not kill her?

why you thought her worthy of your Warden mercy for that?

and why it makes him strong for that decision?

In my evil playthrough, the rationale for sparing Leiliana was something like "boink-boink-boink, we're doing it like a pair of rabbits." Which I thought was a funnier way to handle the situation than the one you chose, in that you defile her Prophet's remains, she swears never to forgive you, and then back at camp she folds into your arms without a hint of protest or fear.

As for "weak," a better term might be "non-persuasive." Or if that wasn't why, "completely insane" might capture it. (Unless you just didn't like Leiliana. Then, you know, just "homicidal.")

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 14 avril 2013 - 10:09 .

[robertthebard]

GenericEnemy wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

GenericEnemy wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

I think Leliana should leave the Warden if you romanced her, what kind of relationship is it where you don't even tell your partner where you're going if you're doing something dangerous? Leliana should be angry and should leave the bastard.

Who says the Warden didn't tell her?

I played Awakening, and she leaves the Warden.  You get a note from her explaining that she's left.

Dearest,

I hope you are well. Alas, I am unable to come to the keep as I promised. I am so sorry, but the Grand 
Cleric herself wishes to speak with me. I will tell you all about it 
once I have had my audience. Is it true the darkspawn have not 
retreated? No matter, I'm sure you have it under control. Wish I could 
be there, killing darkspawn beside you. Perhaps you could save some for 
me?

(All right, that was a joke. Do not spare them. That would be 
silly.)

You are always in my thoughts. 

Love, Leliana

P.S. Maybe 
you could consider growing some roses around your keep? That would make 
it so much prettier, don't you think?

nothing in there really screams "I'm leaving you forever!"...

Nope, just leaving.

[Iakus]

 Leaving, and then returning

"I will tell you all about it once I have had my audience"

[CENIC]

GenericEnemy wrote...

if romanced in DAO, are they even
together anymore? maybe it's just me, but her codex entry, current role
etc kind of make it seem otherwise. :/

I've always felt that while Leliana may love the Warden deeply, she has other responsibilities that are also important to her.
Am
I the only one who interpreted Leliana and Cassandra's conversation at
the end of DA2 to imply that Leliana had been looking for the Warden
(and failed to find him/her) while Cassandra searched (also in vain) for
Hawke?

andy69156915 wrote...

Speaking of Leliana, I don't trust her. I made a topic way back about just that.

So what is everyone else's thoughts?"

I've always had the impression that Leliana has been working for Mother Dorothea/Divine Justinia since her rescue at the end of Leliana's Song. I don't think she ended up in Lothering because she fled Orlais - I think she was there on Dorothea/Justinia's command, to assess the threat of the Blight. I think she was insistent on teaming up with the Warden because she intuitively knew that she'd be in the thick of things if she followed the last remaining Grey Wardens around Ferelden.
This doesn't mean that Leliana is a bad person... far from it. I think both Leliana and Divine Justinia are well-meaning individuals. It just means that Leliana wasn't completely honest with the Warden about her reasons for being in Ferelden/wanting to join the party.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

CENIC wrote...

Am I the only one who interpreted Leliana and Cassandra's conversation at 
the end of DA2 to imply that Leliana had been looking for the Warden
(and failed to find him/her) while Cassandra searched (also in vain) for
Hawke?

I'm starting to subscribe to that theory that was brought up earlier, where Leliana does know where the Warden is but is simply delibrately holding back the information. 

[Angrywolves]

Are we reduced to bashing other peoples wardens ad weak simply because some of us aka people like me prefer to play our characters as heroes with honor and not as villians. Since I don't want to give a mod an excuse to ban me for arguing with someone who has a juvenile attitude I'm done talking on this matter.

[andy6915]

CENIC wrote...
I've always had the impression that Leliana has been working for Mother Dorothea/Divine Justinia since her rescue at the end of Leliana's Song. I don't think she ended up in Lothering because she fled Orlais - I think she was there on Dorothea/Justinia's command, to assess the threat of the Blight. I think she was insistent on teaming up with the Warden because she intuitively knew that she'd be in the thick of things if she followed the last remaining Grey Wardens around Ferelden.

That's impossible. Leliana went to Lothering years before Origins (2 or 3 years). So unless the Divine can actually predict blights better then even Grey Wardens, your guess is not the case.

[BlueMagitek]

It sounds like they're still together. You don't need to be physically with another person at all times to be in a relationship.

[LobselVith8]

GenericEnemy wrote...

if romanced in DAO, are they even together anymore? maybe it's just me, but her codex entry, current role etc kind of make it seem otherwise. :/ 

That's part of the problem with bringing Leliana back - aside from rectonning her different outcomes from Origins, you have Leliana working for the Divine no matter what, and her dialogue in "Faith" and at the end of Dragon Age II made it seem like she wasn't with The Warden anymore.