So I had finished The Stolen Throne a few days before playing the game and loved all the characters from the book. I have yet to start The calling but plan to soon, so I may be missing part of the story so don't blast me for that.
But on to my point. When Loghain left the king during the big battle in the beginning I was extremely pissed. Now granted I think in some way shape or form Loghain had a thing for Maric deep down inside. And I am sure he was pissed about losing Rowan to Maric in the end. But he chose that path. So why the hell would he just desert Maric's son like that.
Now granted I did not like Calain at all. He was an ass of a character that needed to die and it was hard to believe he was Marics son when seeing him in game.
But did anyone else feel completely let down by this?
Anyone else a little peeved
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 05:15
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I haven't, nor did, read anything on the game till the day before it came out (just talk from friends)
that being said, I was PISSED when that happened. I mentioned in another post my wife laughing at me last night becuase i started cussing the guy out lol.
I think they're doing a great job in the story line so far. Really gets you into it.
that being said, I was PISSED when that happened. I mentioned in another post my wife laughing at me last night becuase i started cussing the guy out lol.
I think they're doing a great job in the story line so far. Really gets you into it.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 05:18
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Nope, I knew that no good bastage was gonna be evil. I saw it in The Stolen Throne. Flemmeth is batty, but she DID predict it. She told Maric he would betray him again and again, each one worse than the other. She saw him plot (yes he plotted) and prod Calain to his death. Maric just never saw it.
Calain was foolish and naive, but he did ask Loghain if they should wait for Reinforcements and Loghain told him No. The battle plan was Loghain's. Calain was sacrificed in order for Loghain to take control and insure that his plan for Ferelden remained in place.
Now me, I am taking my time working toward the bloodbath that will be our reunion. I do not want it to be quick, nor painless on his part. Oh no. Going to take my time and bleed him slow and painfully. Had a nice conversation with one of his men in Lothering and told him to let Loghain know I was coming for him.
Calain was foolish and naive, but he did ask Loghain if they should wait for Reinforcements and Loghain told him No. The battle plan was Loghain's. Calain was sacrificed in order for Loghain to take control and insure that his plan for Ferelden remained in place.
Now me, I am taking my time working toward the bloodbath that will be our reunion. I do not want it to be quick, nor painless on his part. Oh no. Going to take my time and bleed him slow and painfully. Had a nice conversation with one of his men in Lothering and told him to let Loghain know I was coming for him.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 05:42
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Calain was foolish and naive, but he was kind and brave. I liked him and its a shame he died because of Loghain's treachery.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 05:50
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"Now me, I am taking my time working toward the bloodbath that will be our reunion. I do not want it to be quick, nor painless on his part. Oh no. Going to take my time and bleed him slow and painfully. Had a nice conversation with one of his men in Lothering and told him to let Loghain know I was coming for him."
My plan exactly I hope it gives me a flay alive option or maybe castration, when I get to this **** hes gunan get it just like im gunna give it 2 Howe
My plan exactly I hope it gives me a flay alive option or maybe castration, when I get to this **** hes gunan get it just like im gunna give it 2 Howe
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 06:14
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I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Loghain as you get further into the game. All may not be as it seems.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 06:55
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Huh, i guess we will see. Not sure if their is anything that will keep me from killing him, and my guy is a good guy for the most part.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:05
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Stanley Woo wrote...
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Loghain as you get further into the game. All may not be as it seems.
Eh, he's a [douche]. I'm sure there's more to the story than we realize, but that doesn't make Loghain a non-[douche].
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:07
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I loved Loghain from the novels and I refuse to believe he is making a play for the throne or anything like. I mean come on, this is Loghain we are talking about. He has his reasons.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:08
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Maria Caliban wrote...
Stanley Woo wrote...
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Loghain as you get further into the game. All may not be as it seems.
Eh, he's a [douche]. I'm sure there's more to the story than we realize, but that doesn't make Loghain a non-[douche].
Maybe there is a Scooby Doo scene where we rip his mask off to find he is actually been Marics 4th cousin 3 times removed all along and the real Loghain died from complications with a hang nail years ago.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:38
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Stanley Woo wrote...
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Loghain as you get further into the game. All may not be as it seems.
Well his buddy Howe offed my family, Loghain tried to kill me in a battle with the darkspawn, and then blame ME for killing the king, and there's a bounty on my head. Not to mention the the happenings in Redcliffe. So he's not gaining any points here, Woo. I'd like to believe that my family also had Ferelden's best interests in their hearts. When we meet, he is going to die. I don't care what his reasons. He chose the wrong allies.
I wish there had been a choice in camp to tell him that Howe betrayed my family. But there wasn't. That seemed silly.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:40
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Loghain is voiced by Simon Templeman, is he not?
That's pretty much a guarantee that the character's a Magnificent Bastard.
That's pretty much a guarantee that the character's a Magnificent Bastard.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:44
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allothernamesweretaken wrote...
Loghain is voiced by Simon Templeman, is he not?
That's pretty much a guarantee that the character's a Magnificent Bastard.
Now, now. Every story needs a Magnificent Bastard, they are Magnificent afterall.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 07:48
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Dude, why didn't you mark this as SPOILER. This is a HUGE spoiler in the game and you REALLY should put that on your title. I have past this point luckily..but had I not I would be extremely pissed.
Yes we all sorta expected Loghain to do this at some point..but in all the previous videos before release it never revealed it happening like this.
Yes we all sorta expected Loghain to do this at some point..but in all the previous videos before release it never revealed it happening like this.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 08:12
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NewYears1978 wrote...
Dude, why didn't you mark this as SPOILER. This is a HUGE spoiler in the game and you REALLY should put that on your title. I have past this point luckily..but had I not I would be extremely pissed.
Yes we all sorta expected Loghain to do this at some point..but in all the previous videos before release it never revealed it happening like this.
Spoiler forum
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 08:13
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I'd read the Stolen Throne and was half way through The Calling when I started to play, so pretty much the rest of the Calling is spoiled for me. 
I wasn't pissed as much as intrgied about how A) Duncan grew the hell up Calain grew into such an idiot and C) Loghain turned into what he appears to be so far.
And NewYears, this is the spoiler forum, pretty much everything here is a spoiler.
I wasn't pissed as much as intrgied about how A) Duncan grew the hell up Calain grew into such an idiot and C) Loghain turned into what he appears to be so far.And NewYears, this is the spoiler forum, pretty much everything here is a spoiler.
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Posté 04 novembre 2009 - 08:55
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Nope, I like the story so far as Dhalish origin. Not very far along, but the characters seem real and force you to consider your responses.
If I have a peev it's just that Bioware games always have weak Archers. I can take my fledgling Archer and Dual Blade melee better and survive better than with the Bow he is skilled in. I also remember NWN2 never had an Archery prestige class (Arcane Archer was a Wizard class). It may get better, but from here Archery looks like weak sauce, again. Anyone ever hear of Robin Hood?
If I have a peev it's just that Bioware games always have weak Archers. I can take my fledgling Archer and Dual Blade melee better and survive better than with the Bow he is skilled in. I also remember NWN2 never had an Archery prestige class (Arcane Archer was a Wizard class). It may get better, but from here Archery looks like weak sauce, again. Anyone ever hear of Robin Hood?
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 01:35
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Prof_Wagstaff wrote...
Anyone ever hear of Robin Hood?
You mean the Erol Flynn Robin Hood who sword fought all the time?
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 04:15
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NewYears1978 wrote...
Dude, why didn't you mark this as SPOILER. This is a HUGE spoiler in the game and you REALLY should put that on your title. I have past this point luckily..but had I not I would be extremely pissed...
Um... NY1978 the whole FORUM is marked spoiler... marking individual posts as such would be kinda re-dundant... you know, saying the same thing over and over again?
anyone get the humor there... anyone? ((crickets))
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 08:19
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Now that I can finally post spoilers again since I can register... phew. I am sure there is some really messed up twist with Loghain. But right now I despise him and probably will continue to. He is just a commoner, he can't be king! He should be happy he was made a Tayrn. Then again maybe it's all revenge for what happened to his father when Maric first found the camp.
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 10:32
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RazorrX wrote...
Prof_Wagstaff wrote...
Anyone ever hear of Robin Hood?
You mean the Erol Flynn Robin Hood who sword fought all the time?
No, I mean the Robin Hood from the classic story. And why is there no Archery Specialization in Dragon Age, Bioware? What Specialization should an Archer character take? Ranger usually trades off Archery ability for Animal Companions. The other Rogues are melee-centric.
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 10:36
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Why would there be an achery specialization when there are twelve talents already dedicated to archery?
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 11:12
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Maria Caliban wrote...
Why would there be an achery specialization when there are twelve talents already dedicated to archery?
Why would there be a melee specialization when there are twelve talents already dedicated to melee?
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Posté 05 novembre 2009 - 11:17
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Because there is one for Templar, Berserker, Assassin, Duelist, etc.? There are plenty of melee talents. Much more than 12, but all the Rogue/Warrior Specializations are melee specializations. A Specialization is just that, a focus for your talents. There isn't one for Archers. In fact Archery attacks are excluded from many cross-related abilities of melee talents. The talent enhancements are flagged melee weapon-only. There are obvious game balance reasons for the flagging. That's why Dragon Origins needs an Archery Specialization, however.
Anyway, it's a moot point because it will never be added and most players won't ever notice.
Anyway, it's a moot point because it will never be added and most players won't ever notice.
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Posté 06 novembre 2009 - 08:04
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Woo wrote...
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Loghain as you get further into the game. All may not be as it seems.
(Spoiler...)
I killed him, happily, cause i hated him in the stolen throne and thought he should have died there.
Nothing he did was justified, and though you guys tried to make a case to keep him around i chopped off his head and feel good about the choice to do so. (I think maric should have killed him in the book as well, but meh, as long as hes dead im happy.)
Did i mention i really hated him in the book?
:devil:
As an aside i should probably say congrats to a degree to david gaider, few authors have made me actively dislike a fictional character as much as i hated loghain in the stolen throne, right up there with joffrey in a song of ice and fire. (I mean this in a good way, he was written as a evil bastard that unlike most such characters actively made me cheer, and strive, for his death.)
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